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16-09-2011, 03:35 AM
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Brooklyn1 Gravesend1 writes:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:17:53 -0400, wrote: songbird writes: wrote: ... Isn't the real issue the deer? After having struggled with every thing under the sun to repel deer, I can tell you what works. Fences. If fences aren't in the cards, forget the roses. here we have combination of 7ft fences around the veggie gardens and the hunters that thin the herds that roam around. i would fence the whole yard if it was set up better for it. 6ft fence was not high enough. Technically, I agree. But in practice, it works. I've read that most deer can clear 10 feet. A mother deer with doe in tow is restricted to the height the doe can clear. Note that most of the area is heavily planted and there are lots of overhead branches. The deer can't get near to the fence and see a clear spot to land on the other side. The fence has been up for 2 full seasons. I think you meant a mother deer with 'fawn' in tow... although wherever there's a mother deer with fawns there is usually an aunt or two nearby. Oops. Thanks. I have herds of deer on my property, I can see about twenty out there right now... I have 5' fences around my vegetable garden and all my flower beds, during the ten years I've been here not once has a deer jumped my fences... but they don't keep rabbits, birds, moles, and several other critters out. To clear a 5' fence they need a running start. Deer ain't so stupid as to jump into a small fenced area that they can't get a running start to jump out, so fencing an entire large property makes no sense unless the fence is like ten feet high. It makes much more sense to fence just the small areas. Also deer won't typically try to get to a fenced area if they can forage elsewhere... if you live where it snows don't mow short before winter sets in, deer will dig down to eat grass but they won't touch the roots. Also it's a good idea to bring in a couple three large round bales of hay, that will keep the deer (and other critters) going until spring. In other words if you provide an easily accessable source of food deer generally won't bother your plants. I will never understand people who want to live in the country but hate the critters... they shoulda stayed in their paved cities. Didn't know about them wanting a running start. Guess I'm okay with 6 ft. Doing some searches I'm finding people claim 8 ft is a max. I remember 10 from somewhere... Unless you're trying to breed for hunting, I think feeding wild animals is a mistake. For sure, it won't protect your plants unless you plan to feed more and more of them each year. I'm in the suburbs. A few deer I have no problem with. Dozens within a few blocks is too many. -- Dan Espen |
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