songbird writes:

wrote:
songbird wrote:
...
clearly tresspassing, how would you
deal with people coming on your property
that aren't wanted?

My question exactly. Can you talk more about that please?

here? i'd take pictures and call the police.
temporarily setting up a motion sensitive very
bright light so that if it is happening at
night they get a bright light in the face
when the get in the yard... to make sure
the camera gets a good picture.

Yes, he should definitely call the police.

I did some research and soil dumping has become a serious problem
in the SouthWest. Next to pedophilia more people have had their
entire lives ruined from this serious epidemic.

The police will give this their highest priority.

--
Dan Espen

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
A professional victim on usenet and (unless the entire story is fabricated)
in life.

:-)) There is a woman like that on rec.food.cooking. She plays the victim
and always has excuses for why she can't accept any advice given to her. I
dont know why anyone ever bothers to reply to her and I decided the same
would probalby apply in this instance.

songbird wrote:
wrote:
songbird wrote:
...
clearly tresspassing, how would you
deal with people coming on your property
that aren't wanted?

My question exactly. Can you talk more about that please?

here? i'd take pictures and call the police.
temporarily setting up a motion sensitive very
bright light so that if it is happening at
night they get a bright light in the face
when the get in the yard... to make sure
the camera gets a good picture.


how are they getting
through your 6 foot fence? is the gate
locked?

Yes, with a padlock.
It apparently takes them several seconds
to open it. The padlock has kept thousands
of law abiding folks on their side of the
fence. Criminals? Not quite so many.



get a different lock. a good combination
lock. and wrap it in a good heavy wrap that
will keep the water off it so it will last.

OK. Thanks for your thoughts on this, songbird.

--Winston

On 03 Aug 2012, "Farm1" wrote in rec.gardens:

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
A professional victim on usenet and (unless the entire story is
fabricated) in life.

:-)) There is a woman like that on rec.food.cooking. She plays
:the victim
and always has excuses for why she can't accept any advice given
to her. I dont know why anyone ever bothers to reply to her and I
decided the same would probalby apply in this instance.

There's actually a name for this behavior. It's called the "Why
Don't You / Yes But" Game. It involves one party asking for help
with a problem, but rejecting all suggestions. The real goal is not
to solve their problem, but to get attention and keep the game going
on as long as possible. This article describes it more completely:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transac..._You.2FYes_But

In this case, Party 1 is "enhancing" the game by being vague and
making the would-be helpers laboriously tease out bits of the story,
scrap by incomplete scrap.

Almost every newsgroup attracts YDYYB game players eventually.

In article , "Farm1"
wrote:

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
A professional victim on usenet and (unless the entire story is fabricated)
in life.

:-)) There is a woman like that on rec.food.cooking. She plays the victim
and always has excuses for why she can't accept any advice given to her. I
dont know why anyone ever bothers to reply to her and I decided the same
would probalby apply in this instance.

Amen.

--
Welcome to the New America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg
or
E Pluribus Unum
Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running

Nil writes:

On 03 Aug 2012, "Farm1" wrote in rec.gardens:

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
A professional victim on usenet and (unless the entire story is
fabricated) in life.

:-)) There is a woman like that on rec.food.cooking. She plays
:the victim
and always has excuses for why she can't accept any advice given
to her. I dont know why anyone ever bothers to reply to her and I
decided the same would probalby apply in this instance.

There's actually a name for this behavior. It's called the "Why
Don't You / Yes But" Game. It involves one party asking for help
with a problem, but rejecting all suggestions. The real goal is not
to solve their problem, but to get attention and keep the game going
on as long as possible. This article describes it more completely:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transac..._You.2FYes_But

In this case, Party 1 is "enhancing" the game by being vague and
making the would-be helpers laboriously tease out bits of the story,
scrap by incomplete scrap.

Almost every newsgroup attracts YDYYB game players eventually.

Don't think I every heard of this before.
Thanks!

So what Winston is looking for here is justification for not doing yard
work. Interesting.

This makes a lot more sense than the "call the police" answers.

--
Dan Espen

Thanks everyone for your constructive criticism,
suggestions and, in some cases, snarky yet ignorant babble.

I've decided to cover the entire undeveloped area with mulch.
That way, my friends will see that any further contributions
will be immediately visible. Hopefully that will be sufficient
deterrent. I can temporarily shop vac up a spot of mulch
and continue to use my post-hole digger to lift the clay
into a nearby bucket until the hole drains itself.

Deposit mulch in hole to surface, rinse, lather, repeat.
At some point in the distant future, I'll rent a tiller and
combine all the goodness.



--Winston

In article ,
" wrote:

Thanks everyone for your constructive criticism,
suggestions and, in some cases, snarky yet ignorant babble.

I've decided to cover the entire undeveloped area with mulch.
That way, my friends will see that any further contributions
will be immediately visible. Hopefully that will be sufficient
deterrent. I can temporarily shop vac up a spot of mulch
and continue to use my post-hole digger to lift the clay
into a nearby bucket until the hole drains itself.

Deposit mulch in hole to surface, rinse, lather, repeat.
At some point in the distant future, I'll rent a tiller and
combine all the goodness.



--Winston

Whatever. See you again when my KF freezes over.

--
Welcome to the New America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg
or
E Pluribus Unum
Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running

On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 07:59:08 -0700, wrote:

I'm slowly converting my tiny suburban back area into a garden.

Progress is slowed because of a chronic problem of landscapers dumping
unused overburden on it.

I understand why, because our local landfill charges $200 a yard to dump
the stuff. (Ask Me How I Know This.)

I shovel and vacuum the dirt up off the clay, but a month later, I'm
gifted with another half-a-yard of fill dirt, neatly distributed over
the surface and pushed into the crawlspace under an outbuilding.

Every week for the last decade, I've filled my garbage can full of this
soil but the amount in the back yard is a constant, not a variable. The
next larger trash can would cost me an additional $30 a month, which I
don't have to spare.

I have a Freecycle ad offering this clean fill but I have no takers.

How would you solve this problem?

Thanks!

--Winston

Fencing comes to my mind.

--

Travis in Shoreline Washington

On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 07:59:08 -0700, wrote:

I'm slowly converting my tiny suburban back area into a garden.

Progress is slowed because of a chronic problem of landscapers dumping
unused overburden on it.

I understand why, because our local landfill charges $200 a yard to dump
the stuff. (Ask Me How I Know This.)

I shovel and vacuum the dirt up off the clay, but a month later, I'm
gifted with another half-a-yard of fill dirt, neatly distributed over
the surface and pushed into the crawlspace under an outbuilding.

Every week for the last decade, I've filled my garbage can full of this
soil but the amount in the back yard is a constant, not a variable. The
next larger trash can would cost me an additional $30 a month, which I
don't have to spare.

I have a Freecycle ad offering this clean fill but I have no takers.

How would you solve this problem?

Thanks!

--Winston

I smell a troll.

--

Travis in Shoreline Washington

Travis wrote:
On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 07:59:08 -0700, wrote:

(...)

How would you solve this problem?

Thanks!

--Winston

Fencing comes to my mind.

There's a six footer between the perp and my yard.
Fences keep out the honest, but not criminals.

Thanks anyway.

--Winston

Travis wrote:

I smell a troll.

Suggest wash your shirt.

--Winston