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What kind of trees can I graft an apple branch onto? In the yard I have meyers lemon, avocado and a living fake-orange tree stock that had a real orange branch grafted onto originally.

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On 2/19/2014 2:11 PM, Guv Bob wrote:

What kind of trees can I graft an apple branch onto? In the yard I
have meyers lemon, avocado and a living fake-orange tree stock that
had a real orange branch grafted onto originally.


You have to graft to a closely related plant. Apple to pear, rose,
quince, and crabapple are possible. (My mother had three different
varieties of rose all grafted to the same apple stock.) Even apple to
loquat might work.

The best would be to an apple seedling. The seedling would unlikely
bear fruit similar to its parent but might have strong roots. This is
how apples are propagated for commercial orchards.

No, you cannot graft an apple to citrus or avocado. It just won't work.

Note also that less than half of the attempts to graft even the best
like-to-like actually succeed, except possibly for the most experienced
orchardists.

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On 2/19/2014 2:11 PM, Guv Bob wrote:

What kind of trees can I graft an apple branch onto? In the yard I
have meyers lemon, avocado and a living fake-orange tree stock that
had a real orange branch grafted onto originally.


You have to graft to a closely related plant. Apple to pear, rose,
quince, and crabapple are possible. (My mother had three different
varieties of rose all grafted to the same apple stock.) Even apple to
loquat might work.

The best would be to an apple seedling. The seedling would unlikely
bear fruit similar to its parent but might have strong roots. This is
how apples are propagated for commercial orchards.

No, you cannot graft an apple to citrus or avocado. It just won't work.

Note also that less than half of the attempts to graft even the best
like-to-like actually succeed, except possibly for the most experienced
orchardists.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary


Thanks David. My neighbor has a couple of trees that have the sweetest apples I have ever had. I didn't know apple trees would grow at sea level until moved here. The current residents let them rot on the tree like typical city folks. Previous neighbor had planted the trees and took care of them for many years.

Growing up in the mountains of NC in the 60's, I remember watching my uncle graft all kinds of fruit and nut trees. Said he learned from the "old timers."

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On 2/20/2014 9:13 PM, Guv Bob wrote:
"David E. Ross" wrote in message ...
On 2/19/2014 2:11 PM, Guv Bob wrote:

What kind of trees can I graft an apple branch onto? In the yard I
have meyers lemon, avocado and a living fake-orange tree stock that
had a real orange branch grafted onto originally.


You have to graft to a closely related plant. Apple to pear, rose,
quince, and crabapple are possible. (My mother had three different
varieties of rose all grafted to the same apple stock.) Even apple to
loquat might work.

The best would be to an apple seedling. The seedling would unlikely
bear fruit similar to its parent but might have strong roots. This is
how apples are propagated for commercial orchards.

No, you cannot graft an apple to citrus or avocado. It just won't work.

Note also that less than half of the attempts to graft even the best
like-to-like actually succeed, except possibly for the most experienced
orchardists.


Thanks David. My neighbor has a couple of trees that have the
sweetest apples I have ever had. I didn't know apple trees would
grow at sea level until moved here. The current residents let them
rot on the tree like typical city folks. Previous neighbor had
planted the trees and took care of them for many years.

Growing up in the mountains of NC in the 60's, I remember watching my
uncle graft all kinds of fruit and nut trees. Said he learned from
the "old timers."


If the trees are getting a good crop in a coastal, mild-winter area,
they are a "garden variety", not a commercial variety.

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David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary
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On Thursday, February 20, 2014 11:09:06 PM UTC-8, David E. Ross wrote:
On 2/20/2014 9:13 PM, Guv Bob wrote:

"David E. Ross" wrote in message ...


On 2/19/2014 2:11 PM, Guv Bob wrote:




What kind of trees can I graft an apple branch onto? In the yard I


have meyers lemon, avocado and a living fake-orange tree stock that


had a real orange branch grafted onto originally.






You have to graft to a closely related plant. Apple to pear, rose,


quince, and crabapple are possible. (My mother had three different


varieties of rose all grafted to the same apple stock.) Even apple to


loquat might work.




The best would be to an apple seedling. The seedling would unlikely


bear fruit similar to its parent but might have strong roots. This is


how apples are propagated for commercial orchards.




No, you cannot graft an apple to citrus or avocado. It just won't work.




Note also that less than half of the attempts to graft even the best


like-to-like actually succeed, except possibly for the most experienced


orchardists.






Thanks David. My neighbor has a couple of trees that have the


sweetest apples I have ever had. I didn't know apple trees would


grow at sea level until moved here. The current residents let them


rot on the tree like typical city folks. Previous neighbor had


planted the trees and took care of them for many years.




Growing up in the mountains of NC in the 60's, I remember watching my


uncle graft all kinds of fruit and nut trees. Said he learned from


the "old timers."






If the trees are getting a good crop in a coastal, mild-winter area,

they are a "garden variety", not a commercial variety.


Older couple I knew got truly unbelievable apples from their tree in the middle of downtown Los Angeles which in summer can get HOT and in winter would never get the requisite "winter chill" that AFAIK, apples are supposed to need.

Never did ask them what variety, dernit. Dunno if they are still around.
OMG, if tree could do that well down there, couldn't it do better out here by the sea with milder all-round weather.

Speaking of winter chilld, after years of yearning for blueberries, when they finally developed blueberries that supposedly did not require so much winter chill, I bought a couple of bushes from my nabe nursery, but they did not do well in 2nd & 3rd years. Sigh!

HB

HB



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