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Brooklyn1 writes:

Dan.Espen wrote:

I have roof moss and Roundup just doesn't seem right, maybe I'll
try the vinegar there. I tried dilute bleach and got a subdued
reaction from the moss.


It's very easy to get rid of roof moss, remove whatever is shading the
roof, then spray with bathroom tile mildew remover... if you do not
remove whatever is shading the area the moss will come right back...
I'd not wait too long before rectifying your problem either, moss
indicates a moisture problem, your roof will soon be leaking as the
roofing and sheathing beneath will be ruined, and home owner insurance
will not cover your neglect.


Well, the shade can't be cured. Neighbors huge trees.
I know they won't remove them. It's pretty shady anyway, as the house
faces directly south and theses are in the back.

If find it odd that you think a fungicide will work on moss.
Not really the same thing.

Thanks for the pointers on the urgency. I know I have to do something.

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On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:33:39 -0400, (Dan.Espen)
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Brooklyn1 writes:

Dan.Espen wrote:

I have roof moss and Roundup just doesn't seem right, maybe I'll
try the vinegar there. I tried dilute bleach and got a subdued
reaction from the moss.


It's very easy to get rid of roof moss, remove whatever is shading the
roof, then spray with bathroom tile mildew remover... if you do not
remove whatever is shading the area the moss will come right back...
I'd not wait too long before rectifying your problem either, moss
indicates a moisture problem, your roof will soon be leaking as the
roofing and sheathing beneath will be ruined, and home owner insurance
will not cover your neglect.


Well, the shade can't be cured. Neighbors huge trees.
I know they won't remove them. It's pretty shady anyway, as the house
faces directly south and theses are in the back.


You can legally remove whatever parts of those trees cross your
property line, from hell to heaven, just at your expense.. might pay
to discuss this with your neihgbor and come up with a plan whereas his
trees aren't pruned so heavily that they look unsightly and then share
the cost. If that doesn't stop the moss from growing it won't be too
long you'll need your roof repaired so I suggest before your roof
leaks and does horrendous damage inside your house you have that
section replaced with a different roofing materal, possibly a roofer
will suggest metal roofing for that section.

I find it odd that you think a fungicide will work on moss.
Not really the same thing.


Not the same but it works... moss grows on my black top driveway in
front of the garage door because that faces north and never sees sun.
So each spring I spray that area with tile grout cleaner and apply
elbow grease with a stiff brushed scrubber... actually what I first
used is vinyl siding cleaner compound that contains an anti mildew
agent, I discovered it works on moss when I power washd my house and
the compound ran down my driveway, only I can't use a power washer on
blacktop or it will lift out the stones and leave holes, with heavy
use a power washer even on a low setting will destroy blacktop.
Whatever the chemical(s) in that power washer cleaner it kills moss,
then it can take a month or two for the dead moss to decay and wash
away. But naturally during the next summer it grows back, and I can't
prune my garage. The moss won't harm my driveway but it looks
unsightly.

Thanks for the pointers on the urgency. I know I have to do something.


Yes, I'd not put it off.
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On 3/25/2014 3:19 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:33:39 -0400, (Dan.Espen)
wrote:

Brooklyn1 writes:

Dan.Espen wrote:

I have roof moss and Roundup just doesn't seem right, maybe I'll
try the vinegar there. I tried dilute bleach and got a subdued
reaction from the moss.

It's very easy to get rid of roof moss, remove whatever is shading the
roof, then spray with bathroom tile mildew remover... if you do not
remove whatever is shading the area the moss will come right back...
I'd not wait too long before rectifying your problem either, moss
indicates a moisture problem, your roof will soon be leaking as the
roofing and sheathing beneath will be ruined, and home owner insurance
will not cover your neglect.


Well, the shade can't be cured. Neighbors huge trees.
I know they won't remove them. It's pretty shady anyway, as the house
faces directly south and theses are in the back.


You can legally remove whatever parts of those trees cross your
property line, from hell to heaven, just at your expense.. might pay
to discuss this with your neihgbor and come up with a plan whereas his
trees aren't pruned so heavily that they look unsightly and then share
the cost. If that doesn't stop the moss from growing it won't be too
long you'll need your roof repaired so I suggest before your roof
leaks and does horrendous damage inside your house you have that
section replaced with a different roofing materal, possibly a roofer
will suggest metal roofing for that section.

I find it odd that you think a fungicide will work on moss.
Not really the same thing.


Not the same but it works... moss grows on my black top driveway in
front of the garage door because that faces north and never sees sun.
So each spring I spray that area with tile grout cleaner and apply
elbow grease with a stiff brushed scrubber... actually what I first
used is vinyl siding cleaner compound that contains an anti mildew
agent, I discovered it works on moss when I power washd my house and
the compound ran down my driveway, only I can't use a power washer on
blacktop or it will lift out the stones and leave holes, with heavy
use a power washer even on a low setting will destroy blacktop.
Whatever the chemical(s) in that power washer cleaner it kills moss,
then it can take a month or two for the dead moss to decay and wash
away. But naturally during the next summer it grows back, and I can't
prune my garage. The moss won't harm my driveway but it looks
unsightly.

Thanks for the pointers on the urgency. I know I have to do something.


Yes, I'd not put it off.


Good idea to seal your driveway. There is enough free space in the
composite to allow moisture intrusion and repeated freezing and thawing
will degrade it faster.
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 15:42:45 -0400, Frank
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On 3/25/2014 3:19 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:33:39 -0400, (Dan.Espen)
wrote:

Brooklyn1 writes:

Dan.Espen wrote:

I have roof moss and Roundup just doesn't seem right, maybe I'll
try the vinegar there. I tried dilute bleach and got a subdued
reaction from the moss.

It's very easy to get rid of roof moss, remove whatever is shading the
roof, then spray with bathroom tile mildew remover... if you do not
remove whatever is shading the area the moss will come right back...
I'd not wait too long before rectifying your problem either, moss
indicates a moisture problem, your roof will soon be leaking as the
roofing and sheathing beneath will be ruined, and home owner insurance
will not cover your neglect.

Well, the shade can't be cured. Neighbors huge trees.
I know they won't remove them. It's pretty shady anyway, as the house
faces directly south and theses are in the back.


You can legally remove whatever parts of those trees cross your
property line, from hell to heaven, just at your expense.. might pay
to discuss this with your neihgbor and come up with a plan whereas his
trees aren't pruned so heavily that they look unsightly and then share
the cost. If that doesn't stop the moss from growing it won't be too
long you'll need your roof repaired so I suggest before your roof
leaks and does horrendous damage inside your house you have that
section replaced with a different roofing materal, possibly a roofer
will suggest metal roofing for that section.

I find it odd that you think a fungicide will work on moss.
Not really the same thing.


Not the same but it works... moss grows on my black top driveway in
front of the garage door because that faces north and never sees sun.
So each spring I spray that area with tile grout cleaner and apply
elbow grease with a stiff brushed scrubber... actually what I first
used is vinyl siding cleaner compound that contains an anti mildew
agent, I discovered it works on moss when I power washd my house and
the compound ran down my driveway, only I can't use a power washer on
blacktop or it will lift out the stones and leave holes, with heavy
use a power washer even on a low setting will destroy blacktop.
Whatever the chemical(s) in that power washer cleaner it kills moss,
then it can take a month or two for the dead moss to decay and wash
away. But naturally during the next summer it grows back, and I can't
prune my garage. The moss won't harm my driveway but it looks
unsightly.

Thanks for the pointers on the urgency. I know I have to do something.


Yes, I'd not put it off.


Good idea to seal your driveway. There is enough free space in the
composite to allow moisture intrusion and repeated freezing and thawing
will degrade it faster.


Sealing won't stop moss from growing.
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On 3/25/2014 5:42 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 15:42:45 -0400, Frank
wrote:

On 3/25/2014 3:19 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:33:39 -0400, (Dan.Espen)
wrote:

Brooklyn1 writes:

Dan.Espen wrote:

I have roof moss and Roundup just doesn't seem right, maybe I'll
try the vinegar there. I tried dilute bleach and got a subdued
reaction from the moss.

It's very easy to get rid of roof moss, remove whatever is shading the
roof, then spray with bathroom tile mildew remover... if you do not
remove whatever is shading the area the moss will come right back...
I'd not wait too long before rectifying your problem either, moss
indicates a moisture problem, your roof will soon be leaking as the
roofing and sheathing beneath will be ruined, and home owner insurance
will not cover your neglect.

Well, the shade can't be cured. Neighbors huge trees.
I know they won't remove them. It's pretty shady anyway, as the house
faces directly south and theses are in the back.

You can legally remove whatever parts of those trees cross your
property line, from hell to heaven, just at your expense.. might pay
to discuss this with your neihgbor and come up with a plan whereas his
trees aren't pruned so heavily that they look unsightly and then share
the cost. If that doesn't stop the moss from growing it won't be too
long you'll need your roof repaired so I suggest before your roof
leaks and does horrendous damage inside your house you have that
section replaced with a different roofing materal, possibly a roofer
will suggest metal roofing for that section.

I find it odd that you think a fungicide will work on moss.
Not really the same thing.

Not the same but it works... moss grows on my black top driveway in
front of the garage door because that faces north and never sees sun.
So each spring I spray that area with tile grout cleaner and apply
elbow grease with a stiff brushed scrubber... actually what I first
used is vinyl siding cleaner compound that contains an anti mildew
agent, I discovered it works on moss when I power washd my house and
the compound ran down my driveway, only I can't use a power washer on
blacktop or it will lift out the stones and leave holes, with heavy
use a power washer even on a low setting will destroy blacktop.
Whatever the chemical(s) in that power washer cleaner it kills moss,
then it can take a month or two for the dead moss to decay and wash
away. But naturally during the next summer it grows back, and I can't
prune my garage. The moss won't harm my driveway but it looks
unsightly.

Thanks for the pointers on the urgency. I know I have to do something.

Yes, I'd not put it off.


Good idea to seal your driveway. There is enough free space in the
composite to allow moisture intrusion and repeated freezing and thawing
will degrade it faster.


Sealing won't stop moss from growing.


No, I get it on smoother surfaces like aluminum siding.
Just thinking, if pressure washer can remove stones, it may need sealing.


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Brooklyn1 writes:

On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:33:39 -0400, (Dan.Espen)
wrote:

Brooklyn1 writes:

Dan.Espen wrote:

I have roof moss and Roundup just doesn't seem right, maybe I'll
try the vinegar there. I tried dilute bleach and got a subdued
reaction from the moss.

It's very easy to get rid of roof moss, remove whatever is shading the
roof, then spray with bathroom tile mildew remover... if you do not
remove whatever is shading the area the moss will come right back...
I'd not wait too long before rectifying your problem either, moss
indicates a moisture problem, your roof will soon be leaking as the
roofing and sheathing beneath will be ruined, and home owner insurance
will not cover your neglect.


Well, the shade can't be cured. Neighbors huge trees.
I know they won't remove them. It's pretty shady anyway, as the house
faces directly south and theses are in the back.


You can legally remove whatever parts of those trees cross your
property line, from hell to heaven, just at your expense.. might pay
to discuss this with your neihgbor and come up with a plan whereas his
trees aren't pruned so heavily that they look unsightly and then share
the cost. If that doesn't stop the moss from growing it won't be too
long you'll need your roof repaired so I suggest before your roof
leaks and does horrendous damage inside your house you have that
section replaced with a different roofing materal, possibly a roofer
will suggest metal roofing for that section.


You'd have to see it.
It's not one tree it's an entire stand of trees.
It blocks the morning sun, until around 11AM.
After then the sun is still not high enough to clear the
peak, the roof is about 45 degrees.
Then after 1PM the rest of the house blocks the roof with the worst
problem.

Like I said, lasts year I hit it a couple of times with bleach and
it didn't look quite as robust as before. Right now (winter) there's
not much there. I'll get it this year or call one of those roof
cleaning outfits.

I'd guess zinc strips would deal with it too.
Right now I'm trying to find the solution that works with the least
environmental impact. That's why I started with an oxidizer (bleach).

Just looked. I'd say about half of it is gone.

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Dan.Espen wrote:
Brooklyn1 writes:
Dan.Espen wrote:
Brooklyn1writes:
Dan.Espen wrote:

I have roof moss and Roundup just doesn't seem right, maybe I'll
try the vinegar there. I tried dilute bleach and got a subdued
reaction from the moss.

It's very easy to get rid of roof moss, remove whatever is shading the
roof, then spray with bathroom tile mildew remover... if you do not
remove whatever is shading the area the moss will come right back...
I'd not wait too long before rectifying your problem either, moss
indicates a moisture problem, your roof will soon be leaking as the
roofing and sheathing beneath will be ruined, and home owner insurance
will not cover your neglect.

Well, the shade can't be cured. Neighbors huge trees.
I know they won't remove them. It's pretty shady anyway, as the house
faces directly south and theses are in the back.


You can legally remove whatever parts of those trees cross your
property line, from hell to heaven, just at your expense.. might pay
to discuss this with your neihgbor and come up with a plan whereas his
trees aren't pruned so heavily that they look unsightly and then share
the cost. If that doesn't stop the moss from growing it won't be too
long you'll need your roof repaired so I suggest before your roof
leaks and does horrendous damage inside your house you have that
section replaced with a different roofing materal, possibly a roofer
will suggest metal roofing for that section.


You'd have to see it.


You'd have to show it.

It's not one tree it's an entire stand of trees.
Right now I'm trying to find the solution that works with the least
environmental impact.


There's no environmental impact with a metal roof... the only impact
is your wallet.
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Brooklyn1 writes:

Dan.Espen wrote:
Brooklyn1 writes:
Dan.Espen wrote:
Brooklyn1writes:
Dan.Espen wrote:

I have roof moss and Roundup just doesn't seem right, maybe I'll
try the vinegar there. I tried dilute bleach and got a subdued
reaction from the moss.

It's very easy to get rid of roof moss, remove whatever is shading the
roof, then spray with bathroom tile mildew remover... if you do not
remove whatever is shading the area the moss will come right back...
I'd not wait too long before rectifying your problem either, moss
indicates a moisture problem, your roof will soon be leaking as the
roofing and sheathing beneath will be ruined, and home owner insurance
will not cover your neglect.

Well, the shade can't be cured. Neighbors huge trees.
I know they won't remove them. It's pretty shady anyway, as the house
faces directly south and theses are in the back.

You can legally remove whatever parts of those trees cross your
property line, from hell to heaven, just at your expense.. might pay
to discuss this with your neihgbor and come up with a plan whereas his
trees aren't pruned so heavily that they look unsightly and then share
the cost. If that doesn't stop the moss from growing it won't be too
long you'll need your roof repaired so I suggest before your roof
leaks and does horrendous damage inside your house you have that
section replaced with a different roofing materal, possibly a roofer
will suggest metal roofing for that section.


You'd have to see it.


You'd have to show it.


The roof on the left is the worst one.
That was 13 years ago. That stand of trees is much larger now:

http://mysite.verizon.net/despen/dec...r-compact.html

It's not one tree it's an entire stand of trees.
Right now I'm trying to find the solution that works with the least
environmental impact.


There's no environmental impact with a metal roof... the only impact
is your wallet.


I'm not going to put a metal roof on a colonial.
Especially not one section and leave the rest with red shingles.
And I'm not going to lose the roof either.
Have some faith, I'll take care of the problem.

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Dan.Espen wrote:
Brooklyn1 writes:
Dan.Espen wrote:
Brooklyn1 writes:
Dan.Espen wrote:
Brooklyn1writes:
Dan.Espen wrote:

I have roof moss and Roundup just doesn't seem right, maybe I'll
try the vinegar there. I tried dilute bleach and got a subdued
reaction from the moss.

It's very easy to get rid of roof moss, remove whatever is shading the
roof, then spray with bathroom tile mildew remover... if you do not
remove whatever is shading the area the moss will come right back...
I'd not wait too long before rectifying your problem either, moss
indicates a moisture problem, your roof will soon be leaking as the
roofing and sheathing beneath will be ruined, and home owner insurance
will not cover your neglect.

Well, the shade can't be cured. Neighbors huge trees.
I know they won't remove them. It's pretty shady anyway, as the house
faces directly south and theses are in the back.

You can legally remove whatever parts of those trees cross your
property line, from hell to heaven, just at your expense.. might pay
to discuss this with your neihgbor and come up with a plan whereas his
trees aren't pruned so heavily that they look unsightly and then share
the cost. If that doesn't stop the moss from growing it won't be too
long you'll need your roof repaired so I suggest before your roof
leaks and does horrendous damage inside your house you have that
section replaced with a different roofing materal, possibly a roofer
will suggest metal roofing for that section.

You'd have to see it.


You'd have to show it.


The roof on the left is the worst one.
That was 13 years ago. That stand of trees is much larger now:

http://mysite.verizon.net/despen/dec...r-compact.html


Would help to see a recent photo that shows more of the roof and
offending trees than the ground.

It's not one tree it's an entire stand of trees.
Right now I'm trying to find the solution that works with the least
environmental impact.


There's no environmental impact with a metal roof... the only impact
is your wallet.


I'm not going to put a metal roof on a colonial.
Especially not one section and leave the rest with red shingles.
And I'm not going to lose the roof either.
Have some faith, I'll take care of the problem.


That photo was quite a while ago and your roof looks old then, perhaps
it's time for a new roof anyway. And today's metal roofs are
gorgeous, highly desireable, and they are used on all styles of homes,
and in that photo I don't see a colonial, I see no second story, looks
more like a ranch. But no matter, metal roofs (standing seam) look
great on all sorts of buildings.
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