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Growing cotton
On 24/11/2014 11:19 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 21:45:57 +1100, Fran Farmer wrote: On 24/11/2014 1:54 AM, Boron Elgar wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 11:01:18 +1100, Fran Farmer wrote: On 22/11/2014 12:55 AM, Boron Elgar wrote: On Fri, 21 Nov 2014 13:17:06 +1100, Fran Farmer wrote: Has anyone ever grown cotton in their home garden? I've just ordered seeds for 3 different coloured cotton so would like some growing tips form anyone with experience. I am after the bolls as I'm a spinner and thought it might be interesting to try to grow my own cotton so I'm after the flowers followed by the bolls. I had thought that feeding with 'flower and fruit' fertiliser might be appropriate once I get them growing. A friend grew some in her home yard just this past summer and got enough to spin a bit. You need way bigger than a backyard crop to get serious with it, though. Well that sounds positive. It's good to know that it is possible to grow enough to have a play with it. Next time you talk to your friend could you see if she has any particular cultivation tips please and report back? I will. Her garden is in Alabama - long, hot & humid summers. Cotton territory. Ah. We don't have humid here. Hot yes, but not humid as we're inland. Is humid important for cotton do you know? Drat, now I've got a song about Alabama running my brain and I'm darned if I can remember who sun it or enough of the lyrics to do a google!!!! Certainly here in the US cotton was grown under such conditions (its commercial heyday is long gone here) . Granted, these requirements are mainly for commercial plantings, but a quick Google shows what you see blow...Odd, the list below mentions "dry conditions," but when cotton was king in the south before the Civil war, I assure you, nothing was dry about the climate down there....Mississippi River delta provided the water and the shipping lanes.. http://www.organiccotton.org/oc/Cott...quirements.php Cotton is grown between latitudes of 37° north and 30° south in temperate, subtropical and tropical regions and on every continent. :-)) Did you notice that although that cite mentions cotton being grown on 'every continent' there is none shown on the map as growing in Australia? I got a chuckle out of that - we often don't exist for the rest of the first world. Not that I particularly mind that in these post 9/11 days. I've checked out where it's grown on my continent and it's in dry places but also a lot further north or west than where I am - worth a try: http://cottonaustralia.com.au/austra...re-is-it-grown Ideal conditions for the cotton plant a Long vegetation periods (175 to 225 days) without frost. Constant temperatures between 18 and 30°. Ample sunshine and fairly dry conditions. A minimum of 500 mm of water between germination and boll formation. Deep, well-drained soils with a good nutrient content. Excellent. I think I might just be able to do that with a bit of work at the later end of the season. Might have to buy some plastic sheeting but worth a try. The seeds arrived in the mail today so I'm hot to trot. |
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Growing cotton
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 13:44:33 +1100, Fran Farmer
wrote: On 24/11/2014 11:19 PM, Boron Elgar wrote: On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 21:45:57 +1100, Fran Farmer wrote: Certainly here in the US cotton was grown under such conditions (its commercial heyday is long gone here) . Granted, these requirements are mainly for commercial plantings, but a quick Google shows what you see blow...Odd, the list below mentions "dry conditions," but when cotton was king in the south before the Civil war, I assure you, nothing was dry about the climate down there....Mississippi River delta provided the water and the shipping lanes.. http://www.organiccotton.org/oc/Cott...quirements.php Cotton is grown between latitudes of 37° north and 30° south in temperate, subtropical and tropical regions and on every continent. :-)) Did you notice that although that cite mentions cotton being grown on 'every continent' there is none shown on the map as growing in Australia? I got a chuckle out of that - we often don't exist for the rest of the first world. Not that I particularly mind that in these post 9/11 days. I've checked out where it's grown on my continent and it's in dry places but also a lot further north or west than where I am - worth a try: http://cottonaustralia.com.au/austra...re-is-it-grown Never be discouraged from growing things out of approved climate. I am in northern New Jersey here in the states...I have an olive tree. Granted - it is in a tub and I bring it in in the winter, but by-the-gods I get to pick enough olives to play with a bit in the fall. I assure you olive growing is not recommended within my state. We get mighty cold here in the winter. I grow citrus, too....again, I pull the tubs inside for winter. Makes the kitchen and garage and basement a bit crowded, but the lemon blossoms scents filling the place makes it worth while. Boron |
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On 11/25/2014 8:28 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 13:44:33 +1100, Fran Farmer wrote: On 24/11/2014 11:19 PM, Boron Elgar wrote: On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 21:45:57 +1100, Fran Farmer wrote: Certainly here in the US cotton was grown under such conditions (its commercial heyday is long gone here) . Granted, these requirements are mainly for commercial plantings, but a quick Google shows what you see blow...Odd, the list below mentions "dry conditions," but when cotton was king in the south before the Civil war, I assure you, nothing was dry about the climate down there....Mississippi River delta provided the water and the shipping lanes.. http://www.organiccotton.org/oc/Cott...quirements.php Cotton is grown between latitudes of 37° north and 30° south in temperate, subtropical and tropical regions and on every continent. :-)) Did you notice that although that cite mentions cotton being grown on 'every continent' there is none shown on the map as growing in Australia? I got a chuckle out of that - we often don't exist for the rest of the first world. Not that I particularly mind that in these post 9/11 days. I've checked out where it's grown on my continent and it's in dry places but also a lot further north or west than where I am - worth a try: http://cottonaustralia.com.au/austra...re-is-it-grown Never be discouraged from growing things out of approved climate. I am in northern New Jersey here in the states...I have an olive tree. Granted - it is in a tub and I bring it in in the winter, but by-the-gods I get to pick enough olives to play with a bit in the fall. I assure you olive growing is not recommended within my state. We get mighty cold here in the winter. I grow citrus, too....again, I pull the tubs inside for winter. Makes the kitchen and garage and basement a bit crowded, but the lemon blossoms scents filling the place makes it worth while. Boron My dwarf citrus are now in very large flower pots. At my previous house, I had only a dwarf lemon in a tub. The tub rested on a wheeled platform. Since night frosts were common in the winter, I would drag the lemon into my garage when I came home from work and place it behind my car. In the morning, I would drag it out again and place it on the driveway in the sun. A redwood tub is not forever. Eventually, either the wood rots from the constant moisture and nutrients, or else the steel straps rust and fall apart. I switched from tubs to pots when I had trouble finding replacement redwood tubs. At my current house, we also get occasional frosts at night. However, the pots are just too heavy to move. Furtunately, my lemon, navel orange, and kumquat are in pots such that the branches and foliage are high enough above the ground that the colder air does not reach them. As it is, kumquats and Eureka lemons are relatively hardy. Navel oranges are more hardy than Valencia oranges. And we get less frost here. -- David E. Ross Climate: California Mediterranean, see http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary |
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 11:30:59 -0800, "David E. Ross"
wrote: On 11/25/2014 8:28 AM, Boron Elgar wrote: On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 13:44:33 +1100, Fran Farmer wrote: On 24/11/2014 11:19 PM, Boron Elgar wrote: On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 21:45:57 +1100, Fran Farmer wrote: Certainly here in the US cotton was grown under such conditions (its commercial heyday is long gone here) . Granted, these requirements are mainly for commercial plantings, but a quick Google shows what you see blow...Odd, the list below mentions "dry conditions," but when cotton was king in the south before the Civil war, I assure you, nothing was dry about the climate down there....Mississippi River delta provided the water and the shipping lanes.. http://www.organiccotton.org/oc/Cott...quirements.php Cotton is grown between latitudes of 37° north and 30° south in temperate, subtropical and tropical regions and on every continent. :-)) Did you notice that although that cite mentions cotton being grown on 'every continent' there is none shown on the map as growing in Australia? I got a chuckle out of that - we often don't exist for the rest of the first world. Not that I particularly mind that in these post 9/11 days. I've checked out where it's grown on my continent and it's in dry places but also a lot further north or west than where I am - worth a try: http://cottonaustralia.com.au/austra...re-is-it-grown Never be discouraged from growing things out of approved climate. I am in northern New Jersey here in the states...I have an olive tree. Granted - it is in a tub and I bring it in in the winter, but by-the-gods I get to pick enough olives to play with a bit in the fall. I assure you olive growing is not recommended within my state. We get mighty cold here in the winter. I grow citrus, too....again, I pull the tubs inside for winter. Makes the kitchen and garage and basement a bit crowded, but the lemon blossoms scents filling the place makes it worth while. Boron My dwarf citrus are now in very large flower pots. At my previous house, I had only a dwarf lemon in a tub. The tub rested on a wheeled platform. Since night frosts were common in the winter, I would drag the lemon into my garage when I came home from work and place it behind my car. In the morning, I would drag it out again and place it on the driveway in the sun. A redwood tub is not forever. Eventually, either the wood rots from the constant moisture and nutrients, or else the steel straps rust and fall apart. I switched from tubs to pots when I had trouble finding replacement redwood tubs. At my current house, we also get occasional frosts at night. However, the pots are just too heavy to move. Furtunately, my lemon, navel orange, and kumquat are in pots such that the branches and foliage are high enough above the ground that the colder air does not reach them. As it is, kumquats and Eureka lemons are relatively hardy. Navel oranges are more hardy than Valencia oranges. And we get less frost here. Some years ago, Costco had a variation on a wheel-barrow - large tub that stood perfectly upright with handle (think of a hand truck that had a built-in tub at the bottom) and I snagged a couple of them for maybe $20-25 apiece. One holds my olive tree, one holds a Texas fig. Makes it really easy to cart them around. The citrus are not as easily carted about. |
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