All my B.E.S. flowers are starting to fade and I was wondering - if I scattered
the seeds in and around a vacant lot they would produce new plants there in the
spring? Or should I bring the seeds inside, store for the winter and plant them
in the spring?

TIA

Break the seeds up and sprinkle them out there. They multiply rather readily
from seed on their own.

On 12 Oct 2003 14:11:04 GMT, (HA HA Budys Here) opined:

All my B.E.S. flowers are starting to fade and I was wondering - if I scattered
the seeds in and around a vacant lot they would produce new plants there in the
spring? Or should I bring the seeds inside, store for the winter and plant them
in the spring?

TIA

Hi,

Is it good for any rudbeckia? I have some Toto, which are not perennials =
here.

I had 2 new rudbeckias this year. I think they both are perennials here. =
They are
Marmalade and Prairie Sun Rise.

Fran=E7oise.

animaux wrote:

Break the seeds up and sprinkle them out there. They multiply rather r=
eadily
from seed on their own.

On 12 Oct 2003 14:11:04 GMT, (HA HA Budys Here) o=
pined:

All my B.E.S. flowers are starting to fade and I was wondering - if I =
scattered
the seeds in and around a vacant lot they would produce new plants the=
re in the
spring? Or should I bring the seeds inside, store for the winter and p=
lant them
in the spring?

TIA

Rudbeckia hirta has many cultivars. Most of them require a warm soil to
germinate. In my USDA Zone 8b, these are perennial. Since I don't know where
you are located, I would say to germinate these and expecting the same plant may
not be realistic. They may not come true from seed of YOUR production. Seed
companies have very rigidly timed crops, which are pollinated at certain times,
and it's all very scientific to come up with viable, reliable to the cultivar,
seed.

I would collect the seeds, hold them in a paper bag, mark the bag, give them
about a month of refrigeration in your fridge and plant them in pots in early
spring. Early spring in Texas is February. You may have other climate
situations.

Key thing is, Rudbeckia hirta, the mother of all Rudbeckia needs warm soil to
germinate, and by warm I mean about 70-75 degrees F.

Victoria


On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:17:26 -0400, Françoise opined:

Hi,

Is it good for any rudbeckia? I have some Toto, which are not perennials here.

I had 2 new rudbeckias this year. I think they both are perennials here. They are
Marmalade and Prairie Sun Rise.

Françoise.

animaux wrote:

Break the seeds up and sprinkle them out there. They multiply rather readily
from seed on their own.

On 12 Oct 2003 14:11:04 GMT, (HA HA Budys Here) opined:

All my B.E.S. flowers are starting to fade and I was wondering - if I scattered
the seeds in and around a vacant lot they would produce new plants there in the
spring? Or should I bring the seeds inside, store for the winter and plant them
in the spring?

TIA

I live in Canada Zone 5 (different from U.S. zone 5). I have some rudbeki=
as, which are
perennials. I do not know their name. Two years ago I ordered some Totos,=
which were
advertised at the time as perennials. In the 2003 catalogue, they were so=
ld as annuals.
They died in winter and did not come back this spring. Last winter I plan=
ted seed in
the house from 2 other types: Marmalade and Prairie Sun Rise. The Prairie=
Sun Rise was
advertised as a perennial.

I wondered if I could spread the seeds of one type or two of rudbekia. Fr=
om your
answer, I will have to plant them in the house again next winter. But I m=
ay still try
to spread seeds since I would not lose anything by trying. Maybe one of t=
hem is a
perennial.

Thank you for your answer.

Fran=E7oise.

animaux wrote:

Rudbeckia hirta has many cultivars. Most of them require a warm soil t=
o
germinate. In my USDA Zone 8b, these are perennial. Since I don't kno=
w where
you are located, I would say to germinate these and expecting the same =
plant may
not be realistic. They may not come true from seed of YOUR production.=
Seed
companies have very rigidly timed crops, which are pollinated at certai=
n times,
and it's all very scientific to come up with viable, reliable to the cu=
ltivar,
seed.

I would collect the seeds, hold them in a paper bag, mark the bag, give=
them
about a month of refrigeration in your fridge and plant them in pots in=
early
spring. Early spring in Texas is February. You may have other climate
situations.

Key thing is, Rudbeckia hirta, the mother of all Rudbeckia needs warm s=
oil to
germinate, and by warm I mean about 70-75 degrees F.

Victoria

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:17:26 -0400, Fran=E7oise op=
ined:

Hi,

Is it good for any rudbeckia? I have some Toto, which are not perennia=
ls here.

I had 2 new rudbeckias this year. I think they both are perennials her=
e. They are
Marmalade and Prairie Sun Rise.

Fran=E7oise.

animaux wrote:

Break the seeds up and sprinkle them out there. They multiply rathe=
r readily
from seed on their own.

On 12 Oct 2003 14:11:04 GMT, (HA HA Budys Here=
) opined:

All my B.E.S. flowers are starting to fade and I was wondering - if=
I scattered
the seeds in and around a vacant lot they would produce new plants =
there in the
spring? Or should I bring the seeds inside, store for the winter an=
d plant them
in the spring?

TIA

someone gave me seeds (flower heads) last fall. I brought the seed heads
inside, kept them dry and tossed them out in mid-late April. They germinated
and started blooming in August. I'm pretty sure they will be perennial here,
but I'm not sure how long-lived. I'm in zone 5/6
"Françoise" wrote in message
...
I live in Canada Zone 5 (different from U.S. zone 5). I have some rudbekias,
which are
perennials. I do not know their name. Two years ago I ordered some Totos,
which were
advertised at the time as perennials. In the 2003 catalogue, they were sold
as annuals.
They died in winter and did not come back this spring. Last winter I planted
seed in
the house from 2 other types: Marmalade and Prairie Sun Rise. The Prairie
Sun Rise was
advertised as a perennial.

I wondered if I could spread the seeds of one type or two of rudbekia. From
your
answer, I will have to plant them in the house again next winter. But I may
still try
to spread seeds since I would not lose anything by trying. Maybe one of them
is a
perennial.

Thank you for your answer.

Françoise.

animaux wrote:

Rudbeckia hirta has many cultivars. Most of them require a warm soil to
germinate. In my USDA Zone 8b, these are perennial. Since I don't know
where
you are located, I would say to germinate these and expecting the same
plant may
not be realistic. They may not come true from seed of YOUR production.
Seed
companies have very rigidly timed crops, which are pollinated at certain
times,
and it's all very scientific to come up with viable, reliable to the
cultivar,
seed.

I would collect the seeds, hold them in a paper bag, mark the bag, give
them
about a month of refrigeration in your fridge and plant them in pots in
early
spring. Early spring in Texas is February. You may have other climate
situations.

Key thing is, Rudbeckia hirta, the mother of all Rudbeckia needs warm soil
to
germinate, and by warm I mean about 70-75 degrees F.

Victoria

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:17:26 -0400, Françoise opined:

Hi,

Is it good for any rudbeckia? I have some Toto, which are not perennials
here.

I had 2 new rudbeckias this year. I think they both are perennials here.
They are
Marmalade and Prairie Sun Rise.

Françoise.

animaux wrote:

Break the seeds up and sprinkle them out there. They multiply rather
readily
from seed on their own.

On 12 Oct 2003 14:11:04 GMT, (HA HA Budys Here)
opined:

All my B.E.S. flowers are starting to fade and I was wondering - if I
scattered
the seeds in and around a vacant lot they would produce new plants
there in the
spring? Or should I bring the seeds inside, store for the winter and
plant them
in the spring?

TIA

That's what I'd do. The seeds outside will not germinate till the soil warms
up. That's all I meant. There should be plenty of seed on each plant.

Victoria


On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 00:34:32 -0400, Françoise opined:

I live in Canada Zone 5 (different from U.S. zone 5). I have some rudbekias, which are
perennials. I do not know their name. Two years ago I ordered some Totos, which were
advertised at the time as perennials. In the 2003 catalogue, they were sold as annuals.
They died in winter and did not come back this spring. Last winter I planted seed in
the house from 2 other types: Marmalade and Prairie Sun Rise. The Prairie Sun Rise was
advertised as a perennial.

I wondered if I could spread the seeds of one type or two of rudbekia. From your
answer, I will have to plant them in the house again next winter. But I may still try
to spread seeds since I would not lose anything by trying. Maybe one of them is a
perennial.

Thank you for your answer.

Françoise.

animaux wrote:

Rudbeckia hirta has many cultivars. Most of them require a warm soil to
germinate. In my USDA Zone 8b, these are perennial. Since I don't know where
you are located, I would say to germinate these and expecting the same plant may
not be realistic. They may not come true from seed of YOUR production. Seed
companies have very rigidly timed crops, which are pollinated at certain times,
and it's all very scientific to come up with viable, reliable to the cultivar,
seed.

I would collect the seeds, hold them in a paper bag, mark the bag, give them
about a month of refrigeration in your fridge and plant them in pots in early
spring. Early spring in Texas is February. You may have other climate
situations.

Key thing is, Rudbeckia hirta, the mother of all Rudbeckia needs warm soil to
germinate, and by warm I mean about 70-75 degrees F.

Victoria

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:17:26 -0400, Françoise opined:

Hi,

Is it good for any rudbeckia? I have some Toto, which are not perennials here.

I had 2 new rudbeckias this year. I think they both are perennials here. They are
Marmalade and Prairie Sun Rise.

Françoise.

animaux wrote:

Break the seeds up and sprinkle them out there. They multiply rather readily
from seed on their own.

On 12 Oct 2003 14:11:04 GMT, (HA HA Budys Here) opined:

All my B.E.S. flowers are starting to fade and I was wondering - if I scattered
the seeds in and around a vacant lot they would produce new plants there in the
spring? Or should I bring the seeds inside, store for the winter and plant them
in the spring?

TIA

(HA HA Budys Here) wrote in message ...
All my B.E.S. flowers are starting to fade and I was wondering - if I scattered
the seeds in and around a vacant lot they would produce new plants there in the
spring? Or should I bring the seeds inside, store for the winter and plant them
in the spring?

TIA

Your zone?

I'm in zone 5. I have a black eyed susan in a corner a few years ago.
It scattered its seeds all over my garden by itself. Now I have black
eyed susan everywhere in my garden. They sprout out like weeds in the
early summer.

You should be OK if you scatter the seeds now. You can also split your
plant and transplant them where you want. It actually help the old
plant to revive. The flowers from the seeds are small like daisy in
the first year. The second year and on, they'll be tall and big like
sun flowers, which I like better than the sorry looking small ones.

They're easy to take care. They're considered wildflowers. you can't
kill them unless you give them too much water.