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North America After the Collapse
On 18 Jan 2004 04:37:13 GMT, (Frank White)
wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:28:29 GMT, Alan Connor wrote: In North America at present, including Canada, there are about 500,000 square miles of mountain forests that are removed from major population centers and in a climate that is cold-temperate or better. Assuming 300,000,000 people in the U.S. and Canada, and that 5% of those people can make it to, or are already in, the Rockies (etc.), that gives these areas a post-Collapse population density of approximately 30 people per square mile, or about 20 acres apiece, back-to-back. (your neighbor will be able to hit your house with a thrown rock from their front porch) (these areas include a lot of grasslands, too, but are predominantly forested) In these conditions, only a survival group that can remain inconspicuous will have a chance of avoiding continual battles with refugees or roving bandits, or continually running from them, and the only way to accomplish this is to have a plant-based lifestyle. If you HAVE to run, then you had better know your wild edible plants, of which there are more than 1800 species in North America, because trapping and hunting will SERIOUSLY slow you down... AC Why would a live by the skin of your teeth existence be preferable to staying in your own neighborhood or town and working together with your neighbors and friends? alanc is obsessed with the idea of running for the hills and living off the land. In fact he's claimed that's what he and an unspecified group have already done, setting up a defensive parameter that includes boobytraps and poison gas generators, as well as trying to drive any neighbors away by poisoning their water and killing their animals. There are doubts as to his sanity... Doubts? Doubts? The dude is a ****ing loon. A Walter Mitty consumed by the Tarnsman of Gor books. A paranoid with at least 5 alter egos, most of whom are also ****ing loons. We are not sure if he is not GunKid or Mabu the Gagnificicent. Shrug..but he makes a great punching bag. Furthermore...What Collapse? alanc dwells constantly on the idea of a coming collapse. He appears to be one fo those people who are actually looking forward to it, believing that the destruction of our current civilization will give them the freedom and opportunity they don't have now. The means by which The End Of The World As We Know It is to come about is less important than their desire for it. Even though, in the actual event of TEOTWAWKI, they will actually probably be the first to suffer... FW Alan/Mabu/GunKid will load up their Main Battle Wheelbarrows with laser sighted Lorcin .380s, DingDongs and Twinkies, a couple dogeared and stained copies of Hustlers Beaver Hunt Specials and shortly be run over by a middle aged long haired Vietnam vet in a Dodge Ram pickup Bugging Out, who will only look in the rear view mirror to see what caused that gyser of shit and the muffled thump. Gunner " ..The world has gone crazy. Guess I'm showing my age... I think it dates from when we started looking at virtues as funny. It's embarrassing to speak of honor, integrity, bravery, patriotism, 'doing the right thing', charity, fairness. You have Seinfeld making cowardice an acceptable choice; our politicians changing positions of honor with every poll; we laugh at servicemen and patriotic fervor; we accept corruption in our police and bias in our judges; we kill our children, and wonder why they have no respect for Life. We deny children their childhood and innocence- and then we denigrate being a Man, as opposed to a 'person'. We *assume* that anyone with a weapon will use it against his fellowman- if only he has the chance. Nah; in our agitation to keep the State out of the church business, we've destroyed our value system and replaced it with *nothing*. Turns my stomach- " Chas , rec.knives |
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