On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 01:47:29 GMT, Salty Thumb
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The cordless model does look intriguing, but I think I will have go with
getting the extra exercise and take my chances with neighborhood kids
laughing at me.

You could not have St. Augustine if you are thinking of using a hand mower.
There is no way in hell I'd be able to mow my entire lawn, small or large, with
a hand mower. My turf is thick stuff.

escapee wrote in
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 01:47:29 GMT, Salty Thumb
opined:


The cordless model does look intriguing, but I think I will have go
with getting the extra exercise and take my chances with neighborhood
kids laughing at me.

You could not have St. Augustine if you are thinking of using a hand
mower. There is no way in hell I'd be able to mow my entire lawn,
small or large, with a hand mower. My turf is thick stuff.


I don't think I have St. Augustine. Probably some sort of fescue +
occasional rye.

tmtresh wrote:
weed seeds need light to germinate

?????????????

Germinate *and* grow. Sure, they'll germinate without light, but they'll die
pretty quick.


"Hootie" wrote in message
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tmtresh wrote:
weed seeds need light to germinate

?????????????

tmtresh wrote:

Germinate *and* grow. Sure, they'll germinate without light, but they'll die
pretty quick.


Actually some seeds do need light to germinate. However, the definition
of "weed" is so broad as to be meaningless. Accordingly, you can't
generalize and say that weed seeds need light or weed seeds will
germinate without light. It depends on the seed. And what you call a
weed. After all, tomatoes can be weeds if they're growing in your
petunia patch.

However, there are far fewer plants that will thrive after germination
without light. Some plants will tolerate lack of light for a limited
time while they work their way through a thick cover (e.g. last years
plant debris, a thick lawn or soil overburden, etc.), but eventually
they need light.

It is difficult to withhold light from selected plants. This form of
herbicide can be called broad-spectrum.

tmtresh wrote:

Germinate *and* grow. Sure, they'll germinate without light, but they'll die
pretty quick.


Actually some seeds do need light to germinate. However, the definition
of "weed" is so broad as to be meaningless. Accordingly, you can't
generalize and say that weed seeds need light or weed seeds will
germinate without light. It depends on the seed. And what you call a
weed. After all, tomatoes can be weeds if they're growing in your
petunia patch.

However, there are far fewer plants that will thrive after germination
without light. Some plants will tolerate lack of light for a limited
time while they work their way through a thick cover (e.g. last years
plant debris, a thick lawn or soil overburden, etc.), but eventually
they need light.

It is difficult to withhold light from selected plants. This form of
herbicide can be called broad-spectrum.

tmtresh wrote:

Germinate *and* grow. Sure, they'll germinate without light, but they'll die
pretty quick.


Actually some seeds do need light to germinate. However, the definition
of "weed" is so broad as to be meaningless. Accordingly, you can't
generalize and say that weed seeds need light or weed seeds will
germinate without light. It depends on the seed. And what you call a
weed. After all, tomatoes can be weeds if they're growing in your
petunia patch.

However, there are far fewer plants that will thrive after germination
without light. Some plants will tolerate lack of light for a limited
time while they work their way through a thick cover (e.g. last years
plant debris, a thick lawn or soil overburden, etc.), but eventually
they need light.

It is difficult to withhold light from selected plants. This form of
herbicide can be called broad-spectrum.

Many weed seeds actually need light to germinate. In other words, when people
scalp their lawn, they expose the weed seeds to the light, thus, they germinate
at a much higher rate than if you don't scalp. My neighbor just scalped his
lawn, and the neighbors lawn because he bought a riding mower. His yard is
maybe (including the house on it) 1/4 acre. It's on a slope. Maybe his mower
will smash him into the fence. Sorry, that wasn't nice...so be it.




On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:18:36 -0700, "tmtresh" opined:

Germinate *and* grow. Sure, they'll germinate without light, but they'll die
pretty quick.


"Hootie" wrote in message
...


tmtresh wrote:
weed seeds need light to germinate

?????????????

Many weed seeds actually need light to germinate. In other words, when people
scalp their lawn, they expose the weed seeds to the light, thus, they germinate
at a much higher rate than if you don't scalp. My neighbor just scalped his
lawn, and the neighbors lawn because he bought a riding mower. His yard is
maybe (including the house on it) 1/4 acre. It's on a slope. Maybe his mower
will smash him into the fence. Sorry, that wasn't nice...so be it.




On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:18:36 -0700, "tmtresh" opined:

Germinate *and* grow. Sure, they'll germinate without light, but they'll die
pretty quick.


"Hootie" wrote in message
...


tmtresh wrote:
weed seeds need light to germinate

?????????????

Not only mow often, but mow high. weed seeds need light to germinate and
grow. If your grass shades the soil, you'll have less weeds.


"Salty Thumb" wrote in message
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(jackie) wrote in
m:

how do i get rid of garden weeds and dandilions without using
commercial weedkillers as id rather use organic as its safer for my
kids and pets if anyone can help id be very grateful


aside from pulling them out as others have mentioned, I've heard that
cutting your grass often will encourage a deep and dense root structure
that helps crowd out dandelions and broadleaf weeds. I pull, but don't
mow
often, because i don't like to run the gasoline powered lawm mower. Maybe
if break down and get a push reel mower this spring ....

Not only mow often, but mow high. weed seeds need light to germinate and
grow. If your grass shades the soil, you'll have less weeds.


"Salty Thumb" wrote in message
...
(jackie) wrote in
m:

how do i get rid of garden weeds and dandilions without using
commercial weedkillers as id rather use organic as its safer for my
kids and pets if anyone can help id be very grateful


aside from pulling them out as others have mentioned, I've heard that
cutting your grass often will encourage a deep and dense root structure
that helps crowd out dandelions and broadleaf weeds. I pull, but don't
mow
often, because i don't like to run the gasoline powered lawm mower. Maybe
if break down and get a push reel mower this spring ....

On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 05:50:23 GMT, Salty Thumb
opined:

(jackie) wrote in
om:

how do i get rid of garden weeds and dandilions without using
commercial weedkillers as id rather use organic as its safer for my
kids and pets if anyone can help id be very grateful


aside from pulling them out as others have mentioned, I've heard that
cutting your grass often will encourage a deep and dense root structure
that helps crowd out dandelions and broadleaf weeds. I pull, but don't mow
often, because i don't like to run the gasoline powered lawm mower. Maybe
if break down and get a push reel mower this spring ....

We bought a Black and Decker electric mower and it is the best thing we did.
One charge easily does our entire turf, and we have thick St. Augustine. Our
turf covers approximately...1500 sq. ft.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 05:50:23 GMT, Salty Thumb
opined:

(jackie) wrote in
om:

how do i get rid of garden weeds and dandilions without using
commercial weedkillers as id rather use organic as its safer for my
kids and pets if anyone can help id be very grateful


aside from pulling them out as others have mentioned, I've heard that
cutting your grass often will encourage a deep and dense root structure
that helps crowd out dandelions and broadleaf weeds. I pull, but don't mow
often, because i don't like to run the gasoline powered lawm mower. Maybe
if break down and get a push reel mower this spring ....

We bought a Black and Decker electric mower and it is the best thing we did.
One charge easily does our entire turf, and we have thick St. Augustine. Our
turf covers approximately...1500 sq. ft.