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Old 19-06-2004, 07:02 PM
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I am planning to place some big pots (20" x20" approx) in my balcony with
some perennials. I am wonder, what is the best way to protect them during
winter time? I was thinking wrapping them with some cloth.... Any idea? I am
in Toronto, and if i am not wrong it is Zone 5/6
Thanks

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Old 19-06-2004, 07:02 PM
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The best way is to remove them and take them inside or bury them in soil.
Barring that, you may need to wrap them in hot-compost doughnuts, or worse,
electric heaters...depending on what you are planting in them.
Good Luck.

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I am planning to place some big pots (20" x20" approx) in my balcony with
some perennials. I am wonder, what is the best way to protect them during
winter time? I was thinking wrapping them with some cloth.... Any idea? I

am
in Toronto, and if i am not wrong it is Zone 5/6
Thanks

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Paulo




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Old 19-06-2004, 07:02 PM
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Cannot bring it inside.....electrical heater...dont think so either....
I was thinking in Hydrangea...


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"Mike LaMana" fake@MikeatHeartwoodConsultingdotnet wrote in message
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The best way is to remove them and take them inside or bury them in soil.
Barring that, you may need to wrap them in hot-compost doughnuts, or

worse,
electric heaters...depending on what you are planting in them.
Good Luck.

--
Mike LaMana, MS
Heartwood Consulting Services, LLC
Toms River, NJ
www.HeartwoodConsulting.net



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I am planning to place some big pots (20" x20" approx) in my balcony

with
some perennials. I am wonder, what is the best way to protect them

during
winter time? I was thinking wrapping them with some cloth.... Any idea?

I
am
in Toronto, and if i am not wrong it is Zone 5/6
Thanks

--
Paulo






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Old 20-06-2004, 12:03 AM
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Paulo wrote:

I am planning to place some big pots (20" x20" approx) in my balcony with
some perennials. I am wonder, what is the best way to protect them during
winter time? I was thinking wrapping them with some cloth.... Any idea? I am
in Toronto, and if i am not wrong it is Zone 5/6
Thanks

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Paulo


In Illinois* -* zone 5** -** i don't do anything to protect them except adding a

couple of inches of* mulch as insulation in case the snows are late in coming.

Ma
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Old 20-06-2004, 02:03 AM
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Interesting, what plants you have in there? I guess big pots are safer...

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Paulo wrote:

I am planning to place some big pots (20" x20" approx) in my balcony

with
some perennials. I am wonder, what is the best way to protect them

during
winter time? I was thinking wrapping them with some cloth.... Any idea?

I am
in Toronto, and if i am not wrong it is Zone 5/6
Thanks

--
Paulo


In Illinois - zone 5 - i don't do anything to protect them except adding a

couple of inches of mulch as insulation in case the snows are late in

coming.

Ma






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"Paulo" wrote in message
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I am planning to place some big pots (20" x20" approx) in my balcony with
some perennials. I am wonder, what is the best way to protect them during
winter time? I was thinking wrapping them with some cloth.... Any idea? I

am
in Toronto, and if i am not wrong it is Zone 5/6
Thanks

I too live in Toronto and had success overwintering perennials using the
following method:

1. Wait for the soil in the pot to freeze.

2. Rigid foam under the pot.

3. Pink fibreglass insulation wrapped around the outside.

4. The whole thing put in a plastic garbage bag with holes poked in the
bottom (for drainage) and the top folded around the rim of the pot.

5. Mulch in the top for insulation and to hold down the top of the bag.

Worked fine with a collection of 12 and 16 inch containers (ie. not huge).
However, they were at ground level and I was able to place the pots in
places where they would be (1) in shade, (2) protected from the wind and (3)
protected by a lot of snow cover all of which, in my view, are essential.
Can you do the same?

Jim


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Paulo wrote:

Interesting, what plants you have in there? I guess big pots are safer...


Must be.
One has tulips, iris, and day lilies.
The other has coriopsis, rudbeckia, and shasta daisies.
My patio is on the north side of the house too, so no south side sheltering
effect.
The pots are just huge plastic things.* Two feet in diameter and about that
deep.
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Old 20-06-2004, 03:02 AM
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Sounds good tome. I had some clematies growing nicely in balcony pot. But
this last winter killed them. I have never used any protection at all, and i
am thinking i can give better chance of survival with some kind of
protection.

I guess the isulation used for heaters should be good....

Thanks for the ideas guys


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"Paulo" wrote in message
. ..
I am planning to place some big pots (20" x20" approx) in my balcony

with
some perennials. I am wonder, what is the best way to protect them

during
winter time? I was thinking wrapping them with some cloth.... Any idea?

I
am
in Toronto, and if i am not wrong it is Zone 5/6
Thanks

I too live in Toronto and had success overwintering perennials using the
following method:

1. Wait for the soil in the pot to freeze.

2. Rigid foam under the pot.

3. Pink fibreglass insulation wrapped around the outside.

4. The whole thing put in a plastic garbage bag with holes poked in the
bottom (for drainage) and the top folded around the rim of the pot.

5. Mulch in the top for insulation and to hold down the top of the bag.

Worked fine with a collection of 12 and 16 inch containers (ie. not huge).
However, they were at ground level and I was able to place the pots in
places where they would be (1) in shade, (2) protected from the wind and

(3)
protected by a lot of snow cover all of which, in my view, are essential.
Can you do the same?

Jim




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"Paulo" wrote in message
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Sounds good tome. I had some clematies growing nicely in balcony pot. But
this last winter killed them. I have never used any protection at all, and

i
am thinking i can give better chance of survival with some kind of
protection.

I guess the isulation used for heaters should be good....

Actually, the insulation isn't to keep in the heat during the winter. It is
to keep it out during the spring. Obviously you are only going to use
winter hardy plants. So they have no problem surviving when the ground is
frozen. What kills them is the freeze-thaw cycle in the spring. When you
get early spring warmth, the soil in a pot thaws much faster than the soil
in the ground. This results in the plants breaking winter dormancy too
early. When the weather gets cold again they have no natural protection.
That's what kills them. So the idea of the insulation is to keep the soil
in the pots frozen until it is safe for the plants to break dormancy. The
other factors I mentioned -- shade, wind protection and snow burden all
serve the same purpose. That's the theory anyway.

Jim


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