On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 10:50:49 -1000, "Mike"
wrote:

Just got "America's Master Gardener's (r)" book _Backyard Problem Solver_
The guy with all the wacky schemes, you know. Like to keep cats away
sprinkle vinegar around where you don't want them. Anyways, he calls for
ammonia (highly diluted of course) as a source of nitrogen fertilization.
How do you buy ammonia?



He's referring to household ammonia, the kind sold as a liquid. I buy
it at Big Lots, 99 cents for a half gallon. Get the soapless
stuff--clear household ammonia--no suds when you shake the bottle.

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 14:35:00 -0700,
(paghat) wrote:

Is Jerry Baker often regarded as an idiot? I've heard so many bad advice
bits blamed on him. The advice isn't baseless, but it's not ideal.

I've watched him on PBS and thought he is sort of like a witch doctor.

I doubt any of his remedies have ever been tested in any sort of
controlled manner.

Some of them probably are helpful, others probably harmful, but I
doubt he has any real idea which.

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 14:35:00 -0700,
(paghat) wrote:

Is Jerry Baker often regarded as an idiot? I've heard so many bad advice
bits blamed on him. The advice isn't baseless, but it's not ideal.

I've watched him on PBS and thought he is sort of like a witch doctor.

I doubt any of his remedies have ever been tested in any sort of
controlled manner.

Some of them probably are helpful, others probably harmful, but I
doubt he has any real idea which.

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 14:35:00 -0700,
(paghat) wrote:

Is Jerry Baker often regarded as an idiot? I've heard so many bad advice
bits blamed on him. The advice isn't baseless, but it's not ideal.

I've watched him on PBS and thought he is sort of like a witch doctor.

I doubt any of his remedies have ever been tested in any sort of
controlled manner.

Some of them probably are helpful, others probably harmful, but I
doubt he has any real idea which.

The danger is when you mix ammonia and chlorine bleach and get toxic fumes.
Don't do it.


"Vox Humana" wrote in message
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"Mike" wrote in message
...
I urinate on my pineapple plants regularly, in non phytotoxic amounts.

I was not able to find ammonia in the store, even after asking for it.
I
saw bleach and other anti fungal bathroom measures, but no ammonia.
This
may have something to do with the post Murray Federal Bldg era.
Probably
not such a good idea any ways.

I've read warnings not to mix ammonia and vinegar.

Manure and alfalfa would have to be cut into the soil before planting.
Or
I
suppose you could make manure tea by putting it in hosiery and soaking
in
water.

It is unimaginable that a grocery store of any size would not carry
ammonia.
You can get it in several brands where I shop, starting around $1.69 a
gallon. I also don't think that liquid ammonia has anything to do with
making explosives. You can do that with generic, inorganic fertilizer
that
is also available at every Wal-Mart and feed store across America. I use
a
mixture of ammonia, alcohol, and vinegar to clean my floors. There is no
danger in mixing ammonia with vinegar.

Jerry Baker is a charlatan and a fraud that preys on the uninformed and
gullible public.

He is slick hustler in it to sell his goofy books and gardening crap and he
really doesn't give a damn about the plants.

If he pulled the same stunts selling his version of folk medicine for human
being or animal pets, he would have been arrested and locked up years ago
for his dangerous quackery.


"Paul Below" wrote in message
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On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 14:35:00 -0700,
(paghat) wrote:

Is Jerry Baker often regarded as an idiot? I've heard so many bad advice
bits blamed on him. The advice isn't baseless, but it's not ideal.

I've watched him on PBS and thought he is sort of like a witch doctor.

I doubt any of his remedies have ever been tested in any sort of
controlled manner.

Some of them probably are helpful, others probably harmful, but I
doubt he has any real idea which.

Jerry Baker is a charlatan and a fraud that preys on the uninformed and
gullible public.

He is slick hustler in it to sell his goofy books and gardening crap and he
really doesn't give a damn about the plants.

If he pulled the same stunts selling his version of folk medicine for human
being or animal pets, he would have been arrested and locked up years ago
for his dangerous quackery.


"Paul Below" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 14:35:00 -0700,
(paghat) wrote:

Is Jerry Baker often regarded as an idiot? I've heard so many bad advice
bits blamed on him. The advice isn't baseless, but it's not ideal.

I've watched him on PBS and thought he is sort of like a witch doctor.

I doubt any of his remedies have ever been tested in any sort of
controlled manner.

Some of them probably are helpful, others probably harmful, but I
doubt he has any real idea which.

Mike wrote:
Just got "America's Master Gardener's (r)" book _Backyard Problem Solver_
The guy with all the wacky schemes, you know. Like to keep cats away
sprinkle vinegar around where you don't want them. Anyways, he calls for
ammonia (highly diluted of course) as a source of nitrogen fertilization.
How do you buy ammonia?




When I hear the name "Jerry Baker" and gardening I think of
one word - FRAUD. A lot of his "problem solvers" do not
work and some of them are scientifically untested and could
be dangerous. His "skill" isn't gardening; it is selling books.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)

Digital Camera: HP PhotoSmart 850

For pictures of my garden flowers visit
http://members.iglou.com/brosen

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Mike wrote:
Just got "America's Master Gardener's (r)" book _Backyard Problem Solver_
The guy with all the wacky schemes, you know. Like to keep cats away
sprinkle vinegar around where you don't want them. Anyways, he calls for
ammonia (highly diluted of course) as a source of nitrogen fertilization.
How do you buy ammonia?




When I hear the name "Jerry Baker" and gardening I think of
one word - FRAUD. A lot of his "problem solvers" do not
work and some of them are scientifically untested and could
be dangerous. His "skill" isn't gardening; it is selling books.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)

Digital Camera: HP PhotoSmart 850

For pictures of my garden flowers visit
http://members.iglou.com/brosen

Remove NO_WEEDS_ in e-mail address to reply by e-mail

"Bill R" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote:
Just got "America's Master Gardener's (r)" book _Backyard Problem
Solver_
The guy with all the wacky schemes, you know. Like to keep cats away
sprinkle vinegar around where you don't want them. Anyways, he calls
for
ammonia (highly diluted of course) as a source of nitrogen
fertilization.
How do you buy ammonia?




When I hear the name "Jerry Baker" and gardening I think of
one word - FRAUD. A lot of his "problem solvers" do not
work and some of them are scientifically untested and could
be dangerous. His "skill" isn't gardening; it is selling books.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)


I think he appeals to that segment of "gardeners" who want to do things on
the cheap and without any effort.

"Bill R" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote:
Just got "America's Master Gardener's (r)" book _Backyard Problem
Solver_
The guy with all the wacky schemes, you know. Like to keep cats away
sprinkle vinegar around where you don't want them. Anyways, he calls
for
ammonia (highly diluted of course) as a source of nitrogen
fertilization.
How do you buy ammonia?




When I hear the name "Jerry Baker" and gardening I think of
one word - FRAUD. A lot of his "problem solvers" do not
work and some of them are scientifically untested and could
be dangerous. His "skill" isn't gardening; it is selling books.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)


I think he appeals to that segment of "gardeners" who want to do things on
the cheap and without any effort.

I think he appeals to that segment of "gardeners" who want to do things on
the cheap and without any effort.
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And he wastes beer! Beer is for drinking. Nothing else. Period!

"TOM KAN PA" wrote in message
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I think he appeals to that segment of "gardeners" who want to do things
on
the cheap and without any effort.
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And he wastes beer! Beer is for drinking. Nothing else. Period!


....well, maybe for slug control also.

"Mike" wrote:

Just got "America's Master Gardener's (r)" book _Backyard Problem Solver_
The guy with all the wacky schemes, you know. Like to keep cats away
sprinkle vinegar around where you don't want them. Anyways, he calls for
ammonia (highly diluted of course) as a source of nitrogen fertilization.
How do you buy ammonia?


My mother gave me his books and I found them to be too hokey and
silly. Hang dirty underwear around the garden-deer and other animals
will avoid human smells, but you should replace them periodically
cause the smells wear off. YES, I'm sure that's what my neighbors want
to see--dirty underwear hanging on stakes!

Some of his stuff you will find elsewhere. Making a tonic from certain
elements- onion, garlic, cayennes peppers and a little dish soap did
work well for killing an aphids infestation off. He recommends several
variants of that for several things--but so do others.


DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
2nd year gardener
http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalfrazier/

"DigitalVinyl" wrote in message
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"Mike" wrote:

Just got "America's Master Gardener's (r)" book _Backyard Problem Solver_
The guy with all the wacky schemes, you know. Like to keep cats away
sprinkle vinegar around where you don't want them. Anyways, he calls for
ammonia (highly diluted of course) as a source of nitrogen fertilization.
How do you buy ammonia?


My mother gave me his books and I found them to be too hokey and
silly. Hang dirty underwear around the garden-deer and other animals
will avoid human smells, but you should replace them periodically
cause the smells wear off. YES, I'm sure that's what my neighbors want
to see--dirty underwear hanging on stakes!

Some of his stuff you will find elsewhere. Making a tonic from certain
elements- onion, garlic, cayennes peppers and a little dish soap did
work well for killing an aphids infestation off. He recommends several
variants of that for several things--but so do others.


A good blast of water will all but eliminate aphids also.