On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:04:48 -0400, Sheila opined:


Just resort to insults when you can't debate!

How was that an insult? Nobody taught you that humans evolved from monkeys, not
here, there or anywhere. It simply is not true. Now, if you want to look at
the theory of evolution with some accurate information, it would be an
interesting debate. I choose tangible reasoning than to do the whole ostrich
head in the sand thing. That's why religion is many times poison. Fear is
never a good tool.





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Doug Kanter wrote:

"The Watcher" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:04:05 -0400, Sheila wrote:

(snip)
I also believe in science do not deny, misrepresent or attempt to stop
the teaching of science. As a matter of fact I think teaching science
is a good thing. I just don't happen to believe in evolution.

Oh boy, another True Believer! Do you really have the courage of your
convictions, though? If you REALLY don't believe in evolution, you should
make
sure and tell your doctor(if you go to doctors, that is) in the event you
ever
get an infection, that you want him to prescribe nothing but sulfa drugs
for
you. Sulfa drugs worked just fine for infections when they were developed.
They
should work just fine now, unless the germs have evolved. Go ahead. Make
their
day.

I don't get antibiotics often, but even so, my doctor has an interesting
system. If, for instance, I have a sinus infection and he feels any of 3
drugs will work, he always refers to my records, alternates drugs, and
prescribes the one I had in the MOST distant past. His reasoning is
precisely what you stated.

But, Sheila will tell us that the concept of drug-resistant germs is nothing
but junk science.

Boy, you guys just don't get it! Of course germs become resistant to
drugs, that is a far cry from the whole theory of evolution.

Like I said before, you guys hold on to your beliefs and I'll hold on to
mine.

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:21:05 -0400, Sheila opined:


I echo Doug's request: where do you get this crap? Out of your ass?

If you have to talk with a potty mouth, then talk to someone else!

Crap and ass is potty language? Wow, where do you live?


There is far more problems with teen pregnancy than years ago when sex
education wasn't in the schools. Yes, the last year or so, teen
pregnancy has come down, but it nowhere near the levels when I was
young.
But of course, you know all the answers!

This is my last post to you.

Where is the evidence of this? What were the numbers when you were in school
and what are the numbers now? As far as I can tell, years back, young women
were forced to live in unwed mothers' homes till they gave birth, and they gave
the child up for adoption. Those numbers were rarely recorded out if shame
because of the religious right and their puritanical mania.

All life is precious, no only humans, but everything from humans to single cell
life forms. What the religious right try to sell is that somehow human life is
more special or important than all other life. In some sense it is the highest
form of life, and fortunate to reach this level, but in many cases human life
kills more than all other life forms combined with a single footstep or
bulldozer. What about those lives? Oh, not important? Mmm.





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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:26:01 -0400, Sheila opined:

If you knew me you would know that I'm honest to a fault.

That statement alone is dishonest. Nobody, including me, is honest to a fault.
If you were The Dalai Lama or, well, I was going to say The Pope, but I think
he's full of crap too...anyway, anyone who says they are honest to a fault is
utterly dishonest with themselves.





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escapee wrote:

Then again, you may be too busy convincing everyone the world is only 2000 years
old.


Boy, where did you ever get that idea? That's just a gratuitous
assertion.

escapee wrote:

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 20:51:59 -0400, Sheila opined:

So, it's OK to abort a child?

Yes, Sheila. People have abortions.

So when is it OK not to take a life. Should a person be allowed to kill
a child when it's a week old, maybe an hour old, where do you draw the
line?

escapee wrote:

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:26:01 -0400, Sheila opined:

If you knew me you would know that I'm honest to a fault.

That statement alone is dishonest. Nobody, including me, is honest to a fault.
If you were The Dalai Lama or, well, I was going to say The Pope, but I think
he's full of crap too...anyway, anyone who says they are honest to a fault is
utterly dishonest with themselves.


That's your opinion, but that doesn't make it true.

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 10:12:53 -0400, Sheila
wrote:

where do you draw the
line?



How old are you?

"Sheila" wrote in message
...


Doug Kanter wrote:

"The Watcher" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:04:05 -0400, Sheila
wrote:

(snip)
I also believe in science do not deny, misrepresent or attempt to
stop
the teaching of science. As a matter of fact I think teaching
science
is a good thing. I just don't happen to believe in evolution.

Oh boy, another True Believer! Do you really have the courage of your
convictions, though? If you REALLY don't believe in evolution, you
should
make
sure and tell your doctor(if you go to doctors, that is) in the event
you
ever
get an infection, that you want him to prescribe nothing but sulfa
drugs
for
you. Sulfa drugs worked just fine for infections when they were
developed.
They
should work just fine now, unless the germs have evolved. Go ahead.
Make
their
day.

I don't get antibiotics often, but even so, my doctor has an interesting
system. If, for instance, I have a sinus infection and he feels any of 3
drugs will work, he always refers to my records, alternates drugs, and
prescribes the one I had in the MOST distant past. His reasoning is
precisely what you stated.

But, Sheila will tell us that the concept of drug-resistant germs is
nothing
but junk science.

Boy, you guys just don't get it! Of course germs become resistant to
drugs, that is a far cry from the whole theory of evolution.

Like I said before, you guys hold on to your beliefs and I'll hold on to
mine.

No. It's evolution at work right before your eyes. No different than the
vanishing of certain species like wooly mammoths.

I like peaches.

"Sheila" wrote in message
...
There is far more problems with teen pregnancy than years ago when sex
education wasn't in the schools. Yes, the last year or so, teen
pregnancy has come down, but it nowhere near the levels when I was
young.
But of course, you know all the answers!

I realize that I'm not going to get a rational answer but I will ask none
the less. Please let us know what the teen pregnancy rate was in the time
frame of "years ago." In other words, back-up your assertion. Cite some
credible sources like the CDC.

"Sheila" wrote in message
...
People need to
be responsible for their lives and their decisions.

Exactly. That's why people need to know how to use barrier method
contraception so when they have sex they won't get pregnant or contract
diseases. Since you want to withhold all information about contraceptives,
then I think you need to take responsibility for the consequences of their
unprotected sex.

"Sheila" wrote in message
...

No, not your choice to tell me what my belief system goes near. I will
vote for candidates who believe that same things that I do.

I think that will be hard in this election cycle. I'm sure you are aware
that the Bush family values include"

Neil - serial adulterer, patron of Asian hookers, victim of sexually
transmitted diseases, divorced with children, married his mother's assistant
Noelle - narcotics abuser, four car accidents within a few months including
a hit-and-run, writes her own prescriptions
George P - arrested for breaking into his former girlfriend's house after
being jilted
Jebby Bush - arrested for having sex in a car parked in a mall parking lot
Columba Bush (Jeb's wife) arrested and fined for smuggling goods
Bush twins - numerous alcohol related charges
Laura Bush - killed her former boyfriend
George - at least two DUI offences, cocaine abuser, admitted alcoholic
http://www.seoulsearching.com/magazine/bushfamily.html

And then there is Kerry:
Looks French

"Janet Baraclough.." wrote in message
...


Hmm. When you said Big Brother, I thought you were referring to your
interesting government, and suggesting it was further along the
dictatorial
spectrum than ours.

Nah..Tony Bliar can never quite keep up with George Bush, however hard
he tries.

The sad thing is that Bush has no idea what his babysitters have gotten him
involved with.



You're talking about a TV show?

BB is more like a religion (the kind with orgies, martyrs, ritual
violence and human sacrifices) than a TV show. It's a group of people
selected for ego and incompatibility, locked together in a house with a
communal bedroom, limitless supply of booze, and TV cameras to record
their every obscenity. Each week the most obnoxious creep is thrown out
(the survivors rapidly becoming more obnoxious) and the last one in gets
a pot of money and celebrity status. Advanced civilisation is us.

Janet.

That's outrageous, but I know people who'd ignore their own kids' choking on
food in order to watch a show like that.

We have a show I find absurd, although nothing as savage as BB. It's called
"Trading Spaces". On each episode, two couples (aka "morons") swap houses or
apartments and surprise each other with their lack of remodeling &
decorating skills. The results have included such monstrosities as walls
covered with headache-inducing purple chenille. These are the type of people
who decorate their front lawns with tacky stuffed sheep.

"Vox Humana" wrote in message
...

"Sheila" wrote in message
...
People need to
be responsible for their lives and their decisions.

Exactly. That's why people need to know how to use barrier method
contraception so when they have sex they won't get pregnant or contract
diseases. Since you want to withhold all information about
contraceptives,
then I think you need to take responsibility for the consequences of their
unprotected sex.



Not only that, but the Kristians also like to meddle in programs which
educate Africans about ways of lowering the risk of contracting AIDS and
controlling overpopulation through family planning. Why? Because the
programs mention condoms, which they are sure will convince young people
that it's OK to have sex before marriage. Better to die of AIDS.