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paghat wrote: In article , Sheila wrote: Doug Kanter wrote: OK. That last paragraph is precious. Could you please provide at least two sources (web links, scientific journals) for that ridiculous information, preferably sources NOT connected with any religious organization? By the way, some say I attribute too much to linguistic skills, but your inclusion of an apostrophe in "girl's" reveals a lot about you. Yep, when you have no arguments then pick out an error in typing or spelling or putting an apostrophe in the wrong place. Insults replace the need to have valid arguments. Conversely, when you have no basis for silly assertions, whining & whinging about feeling insulted replaces debate, even invalid debate. What silly assertion are you talking about? What whining and whinging(whatever that means) and felling insulted are you talking about? I'm not doing any of the above, just pointing out that she was substituting that for debate. I have lived and I have grandchildren and friends with grandchildren, so I do know what is going on. Experience counts you know. If you had valid arguments, you could have focused more on the request for evidence of an assertion that on the surface appeared assinine & incorrect. If you had any evidence for your amazingly silly assertions, you would've provided it, instead of saying you're old & you just know. Your assertion was that sex education "encourage sexual activity" and "makes it harder for girl's [sic] to say 'no' to a guy." I echo Doug's request: where do you get this crap? Out of your ass? If you have to talk with a potty mouth, then talk to someone else! Because here is the truth, according to the US Teenage Pregnancy Statistics Special Report, & the "Survey of Sex Education Provision in Secondary Schools" from the organization AVERT which is struggling to lower the incidence of HIV & AIDS in teenage childrne. Less than half the schools in America have adequate sex education. The better the sex education program, the lower the teenage pregnancy rate. Less sex education, more teenage pregnancy. WITH sex education there is a loweredincidence of HIV and AIDS. Without adequate sex education fewer girls learn "relationship negotiation skills" which arm them with a far BETTER chance of saying "no," avoiding date-rape, & getting home without a venereal disease. Deal with this: Those who oppose adequate sex education in the schools destroy the lives of children whose lives didn't need to be destroyed. Our current president pandering to the religious right & perhaps his own idea of God has sided with those who are fighting AGAINST adequate sex education, without regard for what would actually protect children. So he too is a danger to children. And yes, some people will want to just insult you for deploring what protects children best, quite justifiably insulted too. But be glad about it because it gives you a chance to whine & whing that you were insulted, rather than learning & growing sufficiently that you will no longer be promoting mistruths & misguided notions that endanger even your own vaunted grandchildren. There is far more problems with teen pregnancy than years ago when sex education wasn't in the schools. Yes, the last year or so, teen pregnancy has come down, but it nowhere near the levels when I was young. But of course, you know all the answers! This is my last post to you. |
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"Bill Oliver" wrote in message ... In article , paghat wrote: And bad people who try to coopt the ghosts of good people to their causes hate to note that Martin could & did work well with Jews, agnostics, & all kinds of people, & was poiitically inspired by a Hindu. And bigots forget that this is not uncommon in Christians. billo Usually the quiet ones, not the slobs who make it their business to get in other peoples' faces about how they live their lives. |
"Bill Oliver" wrote in message ... In article , Vox Humana wrote: No. You just illustrated that the religion and the "religious right" are two different entities. No. Reducing any group to a one dimensional stereotype with statements like "There are only two issues that concern the religious right - sex, and sex." is bigotry. I don't expect you to comprehend that conservative Christians are not all fundamentalists and don't all fit your bigoted stereotype. Bigots like you will rarely face their bigotry. billo It was clearly pointed out for your benefit that the religious right is NOT REPRESENTATIVE of the majority of REAL Christians. Therefore, YOU have made a one dimensional stereotype. |
"Sheila" wrote in message ... When you can't debate with facts on your side, people always turn to insults. That is what you are doing. I'm not insulting you. I'm pointing out that what you call "changing the subject" is nothing but an example of a binary thinker being left somewhat behind by someone who is capable of taking small detours without losing the main road. |
Doug Kanter wrote: "Sheila" wrote in message ... When you can't debate with facts on your side, people always turn to insults. That is what you are doing. I'm not insulting you. I'm pointing out that what you call "changing the subject" is nothing but an example of a binary thinker being left somewhat behind by someone who is capable of taking small detours without losing the main road. People change subjects exactly to lose the main road. Yes, you did and still do insult me. It's a classic trick for when one is out of arguments. This has turned into a really silly argument so I'm signing out. |
"Sheila" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: "Vox Humana" wrote in message ... "Sheila" wrote in message ... I don't accept the government paying for abortions on demand. I don't accept the government paying for superstition and bull shit like "Creationism" being taught in public schools. Touché. Especially when the bullshit comes from a book written by HUMANS. Well, to each his own! I'll stick with my belief system and you stick with yours. Good! Make sure your belief system doesn't go near the laws of the land. |
"paghat" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: "Vox Humana" wrote in message ... "Sheila" wrote in message ... I don't accept the government paying for abortions on demand. I don't accept the government paying for superstition and bull shit like "Creationism" being taught in public schools. Touché. Especially when the bullshit comes from a book written by HUMANS. Which bullshit book do you have in mind? The Vedas & Upanishads? The Koran? Rebi Kordova's The Palm Tree of Deborah? The Talmud? The Descent of Inanna? Oh right, the Bible. It's a FASCINATING compendium, one of the greatest literary works of all time, & only as bullshitty as the other of the top-ten works of literature since literacy began. I mean criminy, do you know the story of why Tamar posed as a harlot to get knocked up by her father-in-law, at risk of being stoned to death; & why this made her more righteous than Judah? It's just one of hundreds of deeply profound beautiful & strange tales with psychological complexity & heroism. All our favorite genres are in there somewhere. Humanity is a stinking eruption on the face of the planet that destroys everything in its path, & if ANYthing justifies our appalling existance, it is this very capacity to create such art & poetry that is Torah. -paghat the ratgirl Yes. All religions have interesting literature. But, unless I can raise hell and insist that elected officials believe in John Updike as if he were a deity, these stories need to be kept far away from government. |
"Sheila" wrote in message ... Vox Humana wrote: "Sheila" wrote in message ... I don't accept the government paying for abortions on demand. I don't accept the government paying for superstition and bull shit like "Creationism" being taught in public schools. It's no different than teaching evolution. That's what I was taught, although I don't believe that my ancestors were monkeys. In that case, there must be a few thousand scientists whose academic major was lying. Are their irrefutable findings influenced by the devil? |
"Sheila" wrote in message ... paghat wrote: In article , Sheila wrote: Vox Humana wrote: "Sheila" wrote in message ... I don't accept the government paying for abortions on demand. I don't accept the government paying for superstition and bull shit like "Creationism" being taught in public schools. It's no different than teaching evolution. That's what I was taught, although I don't believe that my ancestors were monkeys. Well, some were taught one thing and some people were taught others. Nor does anything about Evolution suppose that your ancestors were monkeys, so clearly you weren't educated on this topic even at even the simplest entry-level! Now Faith can be a poetic thing, but the desire of the Faithful to remain ignorant of science, deny science, misrepresent science, & attempt to stop the teaching of science, suggests that their own faith is a very tiny thing. I also believe in science do not deny, misrepresent or attempt to stop the teaching of science. As a matter of fact I think teaching science is a good thing. I just don't happen to believe in evolution. Honest to gosh FAITH is an end in itself that requires no proofs -- the moment you require proof, or deplore proof to the contrary for some baseless religious sentiment, you have shown a tepid faith or a lack of faith. It takes no faith to believe in scientific ideas of Evolution or the age of the earth or any number of things that tepidly faithful fundamentalists deplore. Scientific method is capable of testing a premise & improving on the testing methods as knowledge increases. Physics for instance isn't an alternative theory to "God did it," its just a practical method of defining what is real. By comparison there is no evidence that God exists & in all reasonable likelihood there never can be evidence. But Faith requires no evidence or it wouldn't be Faith. If you ever do acquire a solid Faith, you'll discover that science & practicality & reality are not rivals of Faith, ook ook! Never did I say that science and practicality and reality are rivals of Faith. I'm a very practical person and I believe in reality, also in action and reaction. Where did you ever get the idea that I didn't? Because you said you don't believe in evolution, silly. Meanwhile, there's no evidence that we existed in our present form millions of years ago. So, what do you suppose Adam & Eve looked like? |
"Sheila" wrote in message
... Really? How many do YOU think there are? A ballpark guess will suffice. And, what's the difference anyway? The vast majority of people without insurance are either in between jobs or don't work at all. Sorry. No. Tell your minister to arm you with better information so you don't sound silly when you repeat it. If there are 1000 in this entire country, they deserve to receive assistance, especially if they're working their tails off like the rest of us and still unable to make ends meet. Does someone who doesn't work and is able really DESERVE to take money from the rest of us for anything! I'm not talking about those that really can't work, but most welfare recipients are very able to work. Sorry. No. Tell your minister to arm you with better information so you don't sound silly when you repeat it. I don't accept the government paying for injuries incurred when morons don't wear eye protection while using power tools. But, I accept it because it's not the government's place to judge how people ended up the way they are. It's not the same thing at all. Sorry. No. Certain types say a woman who gets pregnant outside of a situation where she can afford it is getting what she deserves for being immoral or irresponsible. That's exactly the same as my harsh judgement that someone who loses an eye deserves what they get for not wearing goggles. No, it's not immature to thing that way. Sex education at school seems to encourage sexual activity, not just educate. It makes it much harder for girl's to so 'no' to a guy today. OK. That last paragraph is precious. Could you please provide at least two sources (web links, scientific journals) for that ridiculous information, preferably sources NOT connected with any religious organization? By the way, some say I attribute too much to linguistic skills, but your inclusion of an apostrophe in "girl's" reveals a lot about you. Yep, when you have no arguments then pick out an error in typing or spelling or putting an apostrophe in the wrong place. Insults replace the need to have valid arguments. I have lived and I have grandchildren and friends with grandchildren, so I do know what is going on. Experience counts you know. Based on your comments thus far, I'd bet a week's pay that you were a grandmother when you were 30. |
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... There is far more problems snip Oooh. The litmus paper just turned purple. "...is our children being educated?" -George W. Bush You're a drone/clone! |
Doug Kanter wrote: "Sheila" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: "Vox Humana" wrote in message ... "Sheila" wrote in message ... I don't accept the government paying for abortions on demand. I don't accept the government paying for superstition and bull shit like "Creationism" being taught in public schools. Touché. Especially when the bullshit comes from a book written by HUMANS. Well, to each his own! I'll stick with my belief system and you stick with yours. Good! Make sure your belief system doesn't go near the laws of the land. No, not your choice to tell me what my belief system goes near. I will vote for candidates who believe that same things that I do. |
Doug Kanter wrote: "Sheila" wrote in message ... paghat wrote: In article , Sheila wrote: Vox Humana wrote: "Sheila" wrote in message ... I don't accept the government paying for abortions on demand. I don't accept the government paying for superstition and bull shit like "Creationism" being taught in public schools. It's no different than teaching evolution. That's what I was taught, although I don't believe that my ancestors were monkeys. Well, some were taught one thing and some people were taught others. Nor does anything about Evolution suppose that your ancestors were monkeys, so clearly you weren't educated on this topic even at even the simplest entry-level! Now Faith can be a poetic thing, but the desire of the Faithful to remain ignorant of science, deny science, misrepresent science, & attempt to stop the teaching of science, suggests that their own faith is a very tiny thing. I also believe in science do not deny, misrepresent or attempt to stop the teaching of science. As a matter of fact I think teaching science is a good thing. I just don't happen to believe in evolution. Honest to gosh FAITH is an end in itself that requires no proofs -- the moment you require proof, or deplore proof to the contrary for some baseless religious sentiment, you have shown a tepid faith or a lack of faith. It takes no faith to believe in scientific ideas of Evolution or the age of the earth or any number of things that tepidly faithful fundamentalists deplore. Scientific method is capable of testing a premise & improving on the testing methods as knowledge increases. Physics for instance isn't an alternative theory to "God did it," its just a practical method of defining what is real. By comparison there is no evidence that God exists & in all reasonable likelihood there never can be evidence. But Faith requires no evidence or it wouldn't be Faith. If you ever do acquire a solid Faith, you'll discover that science & practicality & reality are not rivals of Faith, ook ook! Never did I say that science and practicality and reality are rivals of Faith. I'm a very practical person and I believe in reality, also in action and reaction. Where did you ever get the idea that I didn't? Because you said you don't believe in evolution, silly. You can not believe in evolution and still believe in science. Some science is junk science and some is not. Meanwhile, there's no evidence that we existed in our present form millions of years ago. So, what do you suppose Adam & Eve looked like? How long ago did Adam and Eve live? |
Doug Kanter wrote: "Sheila" wrote in message ... Vox Humana wrote: "Sheila" wrote in message ... I don't accept the government paying for abortions on demand. I don't accept the government paying for superstition and bull shit like "Creationism" being taught in public schools. It's no different than teaching evolution. That's what I was taught, although I don't believe that my ancestors were monkeys. In that case, there must be a few thousand scientists whose academic major was lying. Are their irrefutable findings influenced by the devil? Where is the science that shows irrefutable findings for evolution? |
Doug Kanter wrote: "Sheila" wrote in message ... Really? How many do YOU think there are? A ballpark guess will suffice. And, what's the difference anyway? The vast majority of people without insurance are either in between jobs or don't work at all. Sorry. No. Tell your minister to arm you with better information so you don't sound silly when you repeat it. If there are 1000 in this entire country, they deserve to receive assistance, especially if they're working their tails off like the rest of us and still unable to make ends meet. Does someone who doesn't work and is able really DESERVE to take money from the rest of us for anything! I'm not talking about those that really can't work, but most welfare recipients are very able to work. Sorry. No. Tell your minister to arm you with better information so you don't sound silly when you repeat it. I don't accept the government paying for injuries incurred when morons don't wear eye protection while using power tools. But, I accept it because it's not the government's place to judge how people ended up the way they are. It's not the same thing at all. Sorry. No. Certain types say a woman who gets pregnant outside of a situation where she can afford it is getting what she deserves for being immoral or irresponsible. That's exactly the same as my harsh judgement that someone who loses an eye deserves what they get for not wearing goggles. No, it's not immature to thing that way. Sex education at school seems to encourage sexual activity, not just educate. It makes it much harder for girl's to so 'no' to a guy today. OK. That last paragraph is precious. Could you please provide at least two sources (web links, scientific journals) for that ridiculous information, preferably sources NOT connected with any religious organization? By the way, some say I attribute too much to linguistic skills, but your inclusion of an apostrophe in "girl's" reveals a lot about you. Yep, when you have no arguments then pick out an error in typing or spelling or putting an apostrophe in the wrong place. Insults replace the need to have valid arguments. I have lived and I have grandchildren and friends with grandchildren, so I do know what is going on. Experience counts you know. Based on your comments thus far, I'd bet a week's pay that you were a grandmother when you were 30. You'd be wrong then. How soon will the check arrive? |
In article , Sheila
wrote: paghat wrote: Doug Kanter wrote: "Vox Humana" wrote in message ... "Sheila" wrote in message ... I don't accept the government paying for abortions on demand. I don't accept the government paying for superstition and bull shit like "Creationism" being taught in public schools. Touché. Especially when the bullshit comes from a book written by HUMANS. Which bullshit book do you have in mind? The Vedas & Upanishads? The Koran? Rebi Kordova's The Palm Tree of Deborah? The Talmud? The Descent of Inanna? Oh right, the Bible. It's a FASCINATING compendium, one of the greatest literary works of all time, & only as bullshitty as the other of the top-ten works of literature since literacy began. I mean criminy, do you know the story of why Tamar posed as a harlot to get knocked up by her father-in-law, at risk of being stoned to death; & why this made her more righteous than Judah? It's just one of hundreds of deeply profound beautiful & strange tales with psychological complexity & heroism. All our favorite genres are in there somewhere. Humanity is a stinking eruption on the face of the planet that destroys everything in its path, & if ANYthing justifies our appalling existance, it is this very capacity to create such art & poetry that is Torah. -paghat the ratgirl I think you are answering Doug Kanter, not me, as I haven't called anything 'bullshit'. No one weas confused about that but you! -paggers -- "Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher. "Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature. -from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers" Visit the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com |
In article , Sheila
wrote: Vox Humana wrote: "Sheila" wrote in message ... Vox Humana wrote: "Sheila" wrote in message ... I don't accept the government paying for abortions on demand. I don't accept the government paying for superstition and bull shit like "Creationism" being taught in public schools. It's no different than teaching evolution. That's what I was taught, although I don't believe that my ancestors were monkeys. You may have been taught evolution, but apparently you didn't learn anything. Just resort to insults when you can't debate! When someone says fire is a liquid they cannot be debated. You said evolution would mean your ancestors would have to have been monkeys, which shows you are too devoid of even rudimentary education to be worthy of debate. Noting that you you have not even a teency education in the matter is not Vox insulting you either. It's just an obvious fact. You're not capable of debate without at least knowing a LITTLE bit about what you speak. You have shown you know nothing. If YOU had anything consequential to add, you wouldn't have to repeat, like a neurotic parrot, "Arrp, you insulted me, Arrp, you insulted me" every time you're caught out saying something that is merely Dunceville Central. -paghat the ratgirl -- "Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher. "Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature. -from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers" Visit the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 20:39:36 -0400, Sheila
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 20:51:59 -0400, Sheila
wrote: So, it's OK to abort a child? None of your business! |
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:04:05 -0400, Sheila wrote:
(snip) I also believe in science do not deny, misrepresent or attempt to stop the teaching of science. As a matter of fact I think teaching science is a good thing. I just don't happen to believe in evolution. Oh boy, another True Believer! Do you really have the courage of your convictions, though? If you REALLY don't believe in evolution, you should make sure and tell your doctor(if you go to doctors, that is) in the event you ever get an infection, that you want him to prescribe nothing but sulfa drugs for you. Sulfa drugs worked just fine for infections when they were developed. They should work just fine now, unless the germs have evolved. Go ahead. Make their day. (snip) If you ever do acquire a solid Faith, you'll discover that science & practicality & reality are not rivals of Faith, ook ook! The spirit of science and the spirit of religion will forever be in opposition. -Dostoyevsky(and I agree 100%) (snip) |
"Sheila" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: "Sheila" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: "Vox Humana" wrote in message ... "Sheila" wrote in message ... I don't accept the government paying for abortions on demand. I don't accept the government paying for superstition and bull shit like "Creationism" being taught in public schools. Touché. Especially when the bullshit comes from a book written by HUMANS. Well, to each his own! I'll stick with my belief system and you stick with yours. Good! Make sure your belief system doesn't go near the laws of the land. No, not your choice to tell me what my belief system goes near. I will vote for candidates who believe that same things that I do. Next, you'll be suggesting that retail stores MUST, by law, be closed on Christmas day because the holiday means something to you. |
"Sheila" wrote in message
... You can not believe in evolution and still believe in science. What??? You don't think evolution falls into the broad category of "science"??? If that's the case, does it come under the heading of quilting, or what? Some science is junk science and some is not. There's clear evidence that the genetic aspects of diabetes may be related to the geographical and resulting dietary paths taken by some of our ancestors. It suggests that we have to evolve (read "adjust") to the food supply we have now. Junk science? Meanwhile, there's no evidence that we existed in our present form millions of years ago. So, what do you suppose Adam & Eve looked like? How long ago did Adam and Eve live? How long doYOU think they lived? I have no idea, nor does it seem important. |
"The Watcher" wrote in message
... On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:04:05 -0400, Sheila wrote: (snip) I also believe in science do not deny, misrepresent or attempt to stop the teaching of science. As a matter of fact I think teaching science is a good thing. I just don't happen to believe in evolution. Oh boy, another True Believer! Do you really have the courage of your convictions, though? If you REALLY don't believe in evolution, you should make sure and tell your doctor(if you go to doctors, that is) in the event you ever get an infection, that you want him to prescribe nothing but sulfa drugs for you. Sulfa drugs worked just fine for infections when they were developed. They should work just fine now, unless the germs have evolved. Go ahead. Make their day. I don't get antibiotics often, but even so, my doctor has an interesting system. If, for instance, I have a sinus infection and he feels any of 3 drugs will work, he always refers to my records, alternates drugs, and prescribes the one I had in the MOST distant past. His reasoning is precisely what you stated. But, Sheila will tell us that the concept of drug-resistant germs is nothing but junk science. |
"Sheila" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: "Sheila" wrote in message ... Vox Humana wrote: "Sheila" wrote in message ... I don't accept the government paying for abortions on demand. I don't accept the government paying for superstition and bull shit like "Creationism" being taught in public schools. It's no different than teaching evolution. That's what I was taught, although I don't believe that my ancestors were monkeys. In that case, there must be a few thousand scientists whose academic major was lying. Are their irrefutable findings influenced by the devil? Where is the science that shows irrefutable findings for evolution? Don't read much, eh? Let me guess: The limeberry is filled with sin. Can't go there. |
"Sheila" wrote in message
... So, it's OK to abort a child? You're probably OK with euthanizing a cat which, in your judgement, would otherwise suffer from disease or old age. A life is a life. |
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 20:50:12 -0400, Sheila opined:
(...) Does someone who doesn't work and is able really DESERVE to take money from the rest of us for anything! I'm not talking about those that really can't work, but most welfare recipients are very able to work. (...) Do you honestly think people on welfare is the big issue in this nation? I mean, do you honestly believe that? I live in a state where social programs are so slashed I have yet to meet any one individual who is on welfare and my taxes are sky high. I don't love taxes, but I pay them for the greater good of, and to honor my great fortune to have been born in a country where I can be free and have some control of my own life. Since editing of this thread is horribly poor, I cannot attribute who said what, but who is it that mentioned killing innocent babies? So, not sure, but are embryo's innocent babies when they are discarded after the sperm and egg donor has twins from their pricey in vitro fertilization? Don't you think if the stem cells can turn into a liver for another child who will die without one should get the same opportunity of life? What about spinal cord injuries where people can no longer breath or swallow. Are their lives important too, or just the embryonic cells? v Need a good, cheap, knowledge expanding present for yourself or a friend? http://www.animaux.net/stern/present.html |
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 20:51:59 -0400, Sheila opined:
remove munged wrote: On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:17:12 -0400, Sheila wrote: dykerider wrote: "Helen Crames" wrote in message news:pgBUc.276159$%_6.32608@attbi_s01... Isn't abortion much more expensive than birth control? Helen Not if the government pays for it. Why should the government pay for it? Sheila Pay now or pay later, lots cheaper to abort than try to educate and socialize an idjet So, it's OK to abort a child? Yes, Sheila. People have abortions. That's their karma, not yours. Mind how your own life is going and don't have an abortion if it goes against your principles, but don't slide down the slippery slope of putting religious faith or mix up your emotions with others' emotions. Personally, I am not pro-abortion. I'm pro-choice. I would not now choose to have one, but that's easy for me to say having had a complete hysterectomy. However, I have my right to choose and have had that since I was about 15 years old. Aren't there any more important issues in the world to direct so much energy toward? Why not do fundraiser's for kids in the United States who have nothing to eat tonight. Did you know in the Ozark Mountains there are children who live without running water or electricity? Have you ever been to a really poor community? Maybe the effort you put in to help keep these kids alive is misguided. Maybe you can go out and raise some money to help support these born children, who are actually going to repeat the same thing their mothers did. Have more babies who will have nothing...the beat goes on. Maybe your church should take some of that money and instead of buying a bigger organ, can donate it to these families who are so far out in the bush they don't know there IS a welfare system. Yeah, it exists in America, believe it or not. V Need a good, cheap, knowledge expanding present for yourself or a friend? http://www.animaux.net/stern/present.html |
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:04:05 -0400, Sheila opined:
Well, some were taught one thing and some people were taught others. (...) I was taught that I evolved from apes. Apes are not monkeys. Maybe you should do some research into the disinformation of being taught you came from a monkey, and correct the school by telling them it is apes. Then again, you may be too busy convincing everyone the world is only 2000 years old. Need a good, cheap, knowledge expanding present for yourself or a friend? http://www.animaux.net/stern/present.html |
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:04:48 -0400, Sheila opined:
Just resort to insults when you can't debate! How was that an insult? Nobody taught you that humans evolved from monkeys, not here, there or anywhere. It simply is not true. Now, if you want to look at the theory of evolution with some accurate information, it would be an interesting debate. I choose tangible reasoning than to do the whole ostrich head in the sand thing. That's why religion is many times poison. Fear is never a good tool. Need a good, cheap, knowledge expanding present for yourself or a friend? http://www.animaux.net/stern/present.html |
Doug Kanter wrote: "The Watcher" wrote in message ... On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:04:05 -0400, Sheila wrote: (snip) I also believe in science do not deny, misrepresent or attempt to stop the teaching of science. As a matter of fact I think teaching science is a good thing. I just don't happen to believe in evolution. Oh boy, another True Believer! Do you really have the courage of your convictions, though? If you REALLY don't believe in evolution, you should make sure and tell your doctor(if you go to doctors, that is) in the event you ever get an infection, that you want him to prescribe nothing but sulfa drugs for you. Sulfa drugs worked just fine for infections when they were developed. They should work just fine now, unless the germs have evolved. Go ahead. Make their day. I don't get antibiotics often, but even so, my doctor has an interesting system. If, for instance, I have a sinus infection and he feels any of 3 drugs will work, he always refers to my records, alternates drugs, and prescribes the one I had in the MOST distant past. His reasoning is precisely what you stated. But, Sheila will tell us that the concept of drug-resistant germs is nothing but junk science. Boy, you guys just don't get it! Of course germs become resistant to drugs, that is a far cry from the whole theory of evolution. Like I said before, you guys hold on to your beliefs and I'll hold on to mine. |
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:21:05 -0400, Sheila opined:
I echo Doug's request: where do you get this crap? Out of your ass? If you have to talk with a potty mouth, then talk to someone else! Crap and ass is potty language? Wow, where do you live? There is far more problems with teen pregnancy than years ago when sex education wasn't in the schools. Yes, the last year or so, teen pregnancy has come down, but it nowhere near the levels when I was young. But of course, you know all the answers! This is my last post to you. Where is the evidence of this? What were the numbers when you were in school and what are the numbers now? As far as I can tell, years back, young women were forced to live in unwed mothers' homes till they gave birth, and they gave the child up for adoption. Those numbers were rarely recorded out if shame because of the religious right and their puritanical mania. All life is precious, no only humans, but everything from humans to single cell life forms. What the religious right try to sell is that somehow human life is more special or important than all other life. In some sense it is the highest form of life, and fortunate to reach this level, but in many cases human life kills more than all other life forms combined with a single footstep or bulldozer. What about those lives? Oh, not important? Mmm. Need a good, cheap, knowledge expanding present for yourself or a friend? http://www.animaux.net/stern/present.html |
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:26:01 -0400, Sheila opined:
If you knew me you would know that I'm honest to a fault. That statement alone is dishonest. Nobody, including me, is honest to a fault. If you were The Dalai Lama or, well, I was going to say The Pope, but I think he's full of crap too...anyway, anyone who says they are honest to a fault is utterly dishonest with themselves. Need a good, cheap, knowledge expanding present for yourself or a friend? http://www.animaux.net/stern/present.html |
escapee wrote: Then again, you may be too busy convincing everyone the world is only 2000 years old. Boy, where did you ever get that idea? That's just a gratuitous assertion. |
escapee wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 20:51:59 -0400, Sheila opined: So, it's OK to abort a child? Yes, Sheila. People have abortions. So when is it OK not to take a life. Should a person be allowed to kill a child when it's a week old, maybe an hour old, where do you draw the line? |
escapee wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:26:01 -0400, Sheila opined: If you knew me you would know that I'm honest to a fault. That statement alone is dishonest. Nobody, including me, is honest to a fault. If you were The Dalai Lama or, well, I was going to say The Pope, but I think he's full of crap too...anyway, anyone who says they are honest to a fault is utterly dishonest with themselves. That's your opinion, but that doesn't make it true. |
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 10:12:53 -0400, Sheila
wrote: where do you draw the line? How old are you? |
"Sheila" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: "The Watcher" wrote in message ... On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:04:05 -0400, Sheila wrote: (snip) I also believe in science do not deny, misrepresent or attempt to stop the teaching of science. As a matter of fact I think teaching science is a good thing. I just don't happen to believe in evolution. Oh boy, another True Believer! Do you really have the courage of your convictions, though? If you REALLY don't believe in evolution, you should make sure and tell your doctor(if you go to doctors, that is) in the event you ever get an infection, that you want him to prescribe nothing but sulfa drugs for you. Sulfa drugs worked just fine for infections when they were developed. They should work just fine now, unless the germs have evolved. Go ahead. Make their day. I don't get antibiotics often, but even so, my doctor has an interesting system. If, for instance, I have a sinus infection and he feels any of 3 drugs will work, he always refers to my records, alternates drugs, and prescribes the one I had in the MOST distant past. His reasoning is precisely what you stated. But, Sheila will tell us that the concept of drug-resistant germs is nothing but junk science. Boy, you guys just don't get it! Of course germs become resistant to drugs, that is a far cry from the whole theory of evolution. Like I said before, you guys hold on to your beliefs and I'll hold on to mine. No. It's evolution at work right before your eyes. No different than the vanishing of certain species like wooly mammoths. |
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