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"Sheila" wrote in message ... There is far more problems with teen pregnancy than years ago when sex education wasn't in the schools. Yes, the last year or so, teen pregnancy has come down, but it nowhere near the levels when I was young. But of course, you know all the answers! I realize that I'm not going to get a rational answer but I will ask none the less. Please let us know what the teen pregnancy rate was in the time frame of "years ago." In other words, back-up your assertion. Cite some credible sources like the CDC. |
"Sheila" wrote in message ... People need to be responsible for their lives and their decisions. Exactly. That's why people need to know how to use barrier method contraception so when they have sex they won't get pregnant or contract diseases. Since you want to withhold all information about contraceptives, then I think you need to take responsibility for the consequences of their unprotected sex. |
"Sheila" wrote in message ... No, not your choice to tell me what my belief system goes near. I will vote for candidates who believe that same things that I do. I think that will be hard in this election cycle. I'm sure you are aware that the Bush family values include" Neil - serial adulterer, patron of Asian hookers, victim of sexually transmitted diseases, divorced with children, married his mother's assistant Noelle - narcotics abuser, four car accidents within a few months including a hit-and-run, writes her own prescriptions George P - arrested for breaking into his former girlfriend's house after being jilted Jebby Bush - arrested for having sex in a car parked in a mall parking lot Columba Bush (Jeb's wife) arrested and fined for smuggling goods Bush twins - numerous alcohol related charges Laura Bush - killed her former boyfriend George - at least two DUI offences, cocaine abuser, admitted alcoholic http://www.seoulsearching.com/magazine/bushfamily.html And then there is Kerry: Looks French |
"Janet Baraclough.." wrote in message
... Hmm. When you said Big Brother, I thought you were referring to your interesting government, and suggesting it was further along the dictatorial spectrum than ours. Nah..Tony Bliar can never quite keep up with George Bush, however hard he tries. The sad thing is that Bush has no idea what his babysitters have gotten him involved with. You're talking about a TV show? BB is more like a religion (the kind with orgies, martyrs, ritual violence and human sacrifices) than a TV show. It's a group of people selected for ego and incompatibility, locked together in a house with a communal bedroom, limitless supply of booze, and TV cameras to record their every obscenity. Each week the most obnoxious creep is thrown out (the survivors rapidly becoming more obnoxious) and the last one in gets a pot of money and celebrity status. Advanced civilisation is us. Janet. That's outrageous, but I know people who'd ignore their own kids' choking on food in order to watch a show like that. We have a show I find absurd, although nothing as savage as BB. It's called "Trading Spaces". On each episode, two couples (aka "morons") swap houses or apartments and surprise each other with their lack of remodeling & decorating skills. The results have included such monstrosities as walls covered with headache-inducing purple chenille. These are the type of people who decorate their front lawns with tacky stuffed sheep. |
"Vox Humana" wrote in message ... "Sheila" wrote in message ... People need to be responsible for their lives and their decisions. Exactly. That's why people need to know how to use barrier method contraception so when they have sex they won't get pregnant or contract diseases. Since you want to withhold all information about contraceptives, then I think you need to take responsibility for the consequences of their unprotected sex. Not only that, but the Kristians also like to meddle in programs which educate Africans about ways of lowering the risk of contracting AIDS and controlling overpopulation through family planning. Why? Because the programs mention condoms, which they are sure will convince young people that it's OK to have sex before marriage. Better to die of AIDS. |
"Vox Humana" wrote in message ... "Sheila" wrote in message ... There is far more problems with teen pregnancy than years ago when sex education wasn't in the schools. Yes, the last year or so, teen pregnancy has come down, but it nowhere near the levels when I was young. But of course, you know all the answers! I realize that I'm not going to get a rational answer but I will ask none the less. Please let us know what the teen pregnancy rate was in the time frame of "years ago." In other words, back-up your assertion. Cite some credible sources like the CDC. In another newsgroup, I've been dueling with a clone of Sheila for years, so I'll guess the answer: "Statistics and surveys can be skewed to look the way someone wants them to, especially in a quasi-political organization like the CDC." |
Doug, Vox, et al,
Could y'all go masturbate somewhere else? Maybe take it to email or something. This group is supposed to be about gardening. Regards, Bob |
"zxcvbob" wrote in message ... Doug, Vox, et al, Could y'all go masturbate somewhere else? Maybe take it to email or something. This group is supposed to be about gardening. We wouldn't have had all these problems for all these years if it hadn't been for a certain woman in a garden, an apple, and a serpent. |
In article , "Vox Humana"
wrote: I like peaches. Peaches la Rue the stripper? -paggers -- "Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher. "Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature. -from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers" Visit the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com |
In article , zxcvbob wrote:
Doug, Vox, et al, Could y'all go masturbate somewhere else? Maybe take it to email or something. This group is supposed to be about gardening. Regards, Bob Bushes are garden plants & loony rightwingers have vegetables where the rest of us have brains, so it IS all about gardens. But you don't like a measily one off-topic thread, don't read it. Your kvetching about it is doubly off-topic -- being off-topic for the off-topic. -paghat the ratgirl -- "Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher. "Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature. -from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers" Visit the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com |
"paghat" wrote in message ... In article , "Vox Humana" wrote: I like peaches. Peaches la Rue the stripper? I'm not familiar with Peaches la Rue, but I once knew a drag queen who went by the name of "Georgia Peach" or "Miss Peaches" for short. |
"paghat" wrote in message ... In article , zxcvbob wrote: Doug, Vox, et al, Could y'all go masturbate somewhere else? Maybe take it to email or something. This group is supposed to be about gardening. Regards, Bob Bushes are garden plants & loony rightwingers have vegetables where the rest of us have brains, so it IS all about gardens. But you don't like a measily one off-topic thread, don't read it. Your kvetching about it is doubly off-topic -- being off-topic for the off-topic. I suspect that the problems isn't so much that it is an off-topic thread as much as that it isn't flattering to organized religion. Bob accused me of lying about the percentage of priests that were gay a few months ago. When I posted a link to a study conducted by a faculty member at Johns Hopkins University that supported my assertion, not so much as a "sorry" was posted. http://tinyurl.com/46thx http://tinyurl.com/532dy Interestingly, Bob found it just fine to post a message about his fondness for Fox News to Rec.Food.Cooking just last week - sounds off-topic to me. http://tinyurl.com/5b96p And a message about how Germany was "screwed" prior to WWII - to Rec.food.cooking http://tinyurl.com/3mzqj And a message about how USA today declined to print a column by Ann Coulter - to Rec.food.cooking http://tinyurl.com/6998o Now, I'm not saying that Bob shouldn't have posted the messages. I just find it interesting that he has a problem with others posting to off-topic threads here while he posts to off-topic threads on other news groups. |
In article , "Vox Humana"
wrote: "paghat" wrote in message ... In article , "Vox Humana" wrote: I like peaches. Peaches la Rue the stripper? I'm not familiar with Peaches la Rue, but I once knew a drag queen who went by the name of "Georgia Peach" or "Miss Peaches" for short. Here's Peaches "the day stripper" aka Merrill Nesker, porn-rocker & underground superstar: http://www.thefab.net/topics/art_music/cm25_peaches.htm Then there's underground filmmaker & drag queen Joshua Grannel aka Peaches Christ: http://www.peacheschrist.com/backlas...eet/index.html -paggers -- "Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher. "Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature. -from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers" Visit the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com |
Vox Humana wrote:
"paghat" wrote in message ... In article , zxcvbob wrote: Doug, Vox, et al, Could y'all go masturbate somewhere else? Maybe take it to email or something. This group is supposed to be about gardening. Regards, Bob Bushes are garden plants & loony rightwingers have vegetables where the rest of us have brains, so it IS all about gardens. But you don't like a measily one off-topic thread, don't read it. Your kvetching about it is doubly off-topic -- being off-topic for the off-topic. I suspect that the problems isn't so much that it is an off-topic thread as much as that it isn't flattering to organized religion. Bob accused me of lying about the percentage of priests that were gay a few months ago. When I posted a link to a study conducted by a faculty member at Johns Hopkins University that supported my assertion, not so much as a "sorry" was posted. http://tinyurl.com/46thx http://tinyurl.com/532dy Interestingly, Bob found it just fine to post a message about his fondness for Fox News to Rec.Food.Cooking just last week - sounds off-topic to me. http://tinyurl.com/5b96p And a message about how Germany was "screwed" prior to WWII - to Rec.food.cooking http://tinyurl.com/3mzqj And a message about how USA today declined to print a column by Ann Coulter - to Rec.food.cooking http://tinyurl.com/6998o Now, I'm not saying that Bob shouldn't have posted the messages. I just find it interesting that he has a problem with others posting to off-topic threads here while he posts to off-topic threads on other news groups. This Bush thread has been going on for days and has accounted for about half the messages in this group lately. Doncha think that's enough? In each the the above examples, I posted one or two messages in an existing off-topic discussion thread. I'm not saying that's a *good* thing, but I hardly see how it compares to you and Doug saying pretty much the same rants over and over and over and over and monopolizing the group. Get a room or something. Regards, Bob |
In article , "Vox Humana"
wrote: "paghat" wrote in message ... In article , zxcvbob wrote: Doug, Vox, et al, Could y'all go masturbate somewhere else? Maybe take it to email or something. This group is supposed to be about gardening. Regards, Bob Bushes are garden plants & loony rightwingers have vegetables where the rest of us have brains, so it IS all about gardens. But you don't like a measily one off-topic thread, don't read it. Your kvetching about it is doubly off-topic -- being off-topic for the off-topic. I suspect that the problems isn't so much that it is an off-topic thread as much as that it isn't flattering to organized religion. Bob accused me of lying about the percentage of priests that were gay a few months ago. When I posted a link to a study conducted by a faculty member at Johns Hopkins University that supported my assertion, not so much as a "sorry" was posted. http://tinyurl.com/46thx http://tinyurl.com/532dy Interestingly, Bob found it just fine to post a message about his fondness for Fox News to Rec.Food.Cooking just last week - sounds off-topic to me. http://tinyurl.com/5b96p And a message about how Germany was "screwed" prior to WWII - to Rec.food.cooking http://tinyurl.com/3mzqj And a message about how USA today declined to print a column by Ann Coulter - to Rec.food.cooking http://tinyurl.com/6998o Now, I'm not saying that Bob shouldn't have posted the messages. I just find it interesting that he has a problem with others posting to off-topic threads here while he posts to off-topic threads on other news groups. Maybe also because Sheila makes rightwingers out to be uneddicated loons & is WAY too easy a target for a thinking response? I swear to Great Ghu. I've met some actually intelligent (though misguided) rightwingers in my life, but they all seem too embarrassed to pipe in when the usenet variety of rightwinger starts making rattling sounds with the rocks in their heads. -paghat the ratgirl -- "Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher. "Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature. -from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers" Visit the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com |
"zxcvbob" wrote in message ... Vox Humana wrote: "paghat" wrote in message ... In article , zxcvbob wrote: Doug, Vox, et al, Could y'all go masturbate somewhere else? Maybe take it to email or something. This group is supposed to be about gardening. Regards, Bob Bushes are garden plants & loony rightwingers have vegetables where the rest of us have brains, so it IS all about gardens. But you don't like a measily one off-topic thread, don't read it. Your kvetching about it is doubly off-topic -- being off-topic for the off-topic. I suspect that the problems isn't so much that it is an off-topic thread as much as that it isn't flattering to organized religion. Bob accused me of lying about the percentage of priests that were gay a few months ago. When I posted a link to a study conducted by a faculty member at Johns Hopkins University that supported my assertion, not so much as a "sorry" was posted. http://tinyurl.com/46thx http://tinyurl.com/532dy Interestingly, Bob found it just fine to post a message about his fondness for Fox News to Rec.Food.Cooking just last week - sounds off-topic to me. http://tinyurl.com/5b96p And a message about how Germany was "screwed" prior to WWII - to Rec.food.cooking http://tinyurl.com/3mzqj And a message about how USA today declined to print a column by Ann Coulter - to Rec.food.cooking http://tinyurl.com/6998o Now, I'm not saying that Bob shouldn't have posted the messages. I just find it interesting that he has a problem with others posting to off-topic threads here while he posts to off-topic threads on other news groups. This Bush thread has been going on for days and has accounted for about half the messages in this group lately. Doncha think that's enough? Actually, 28% of the messages ... but I don't keep track unless someone brings up the subject. I don't think the length or longevity of the thread is of any consequence. I read and post to threads that interest me, and skip the rest. In each the above examples, I posted one or two messages in an existing off-topic discussion thread. It was a quick search, not an exhaustive one. I don't care if you post hundreds of messages to off-topic threads all across Usenet. I just don't think you can be critical of posting to off-topic threads when you do it yourself. I do think that you are more likely to confront posters who disagree with your political point of view. I'm not saying that's a *good* thing, but I hardly see how it compares to you and Doug saying pretty much the same rants over and over and over and over and monopolizing the group. I'm not monopolizing the group. I don't have that kind of power. I have responded to messages posted by others. I guess I crossed some invisible line or something! Somehow I bet that line wouldn't have materialized had I been advancing the RNC point of view. Get a room or something. Consider skipping threads that don't interest you. |
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 13:02:00 -0500, zxcvbob
wrote: Could y'all go masturbate somewhere else? Really Bob, not everyone whacks off in front of their computer! |
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 17:49:42 -0500, zxcvbob
wrote: This Bush thread has been going on for days and has accounted for about half the messages in this group lately. Doncha think that's enough? In each the the above examples, I posted one or two messages in an existing off-topic discussion thread. I'm not saying that's a *good* thing, but I hardly see how it compares to you and Doug saying pretty much the same rants over and over and over and over and monopolizing the group. Get a room or something. Regards, Bob Boob, can you really be this stupid? It's impossible to monopolize. You got your 2 cents worth of Bullshit in! Post something you find important then jack off to the thread. In the meantime learn to use the power of your computer and delete the thread or get a newsreader that lets you filter. |
Vox Humana wrote:
"zxcvbob" wrote in message ... Vox Humana wrote: "paghat" wrote in message ... In article , zxcvbob wrote: Doug, Vox, et al, Could y'all go masturbate somewhere else? Maybe take it to email or something. This group is supposed to be about gardening. Regards, Bob Bushes are garden plants & loony rightwingers have vegetables where the rest of us have brains, so it IS all about gardens. But you don't like a measily one off-topic thread, don't read it. Your kvetching about it is doubly off-topic -- being off-topic for the off-topic. I suspect that the problems isn't so much that it is an off-topic thread as much as that it isn't flattering to organized religion. Bob accused me of lying about the percentage of priests that were gay a few months ago. When I posted a link to a study conducted by a faculty member at Johns Hopkins University that supported my assertion, not so much as a "sorry" was posted. http://tinyurl.com/46thx http://tinyurl.com/532dy Interestingly, Bob found it just fine to post a message about his fondness for Fox News to Rec.Food.Cooking just last week - sounds off-topic to me. http://tinyurl.com/5b96p And a message about how Germany was "screwed" prior to WWII - to Rec.food.cooking http://tinyurl.com/3mzqj And a message about how USA today declined to print a column by Ann Coulter - to Rec.food.cooking http://tinyurl.com/6998o Now, I'm not saying that Bob shouldn't have posted the messages. I just find it interesting that he has a problem with others posting to off-topic threads here while he posts to off-topic threads on other news groups. This Bush thread has been going on for days and has accounted for about half the messages in this group lately. Doncha think that's enough? Actually, 28% of the messages ... but I don't keep track unless someone brings up the subject. I don't think the length or longevity of the thread is of any consequence. I read and post to threads that interest me, and skip the rest. In each the above examples, I posted one or two messages in an existing off-topic discussion thread. It was a quick search, not an exhaustive one. I don't care if you post hundreds of messages to off-topic threads all across Usenet. I just don't think you can be critical of posting to off-topic threads when you do it yourself. I do think that you are more likely to confront posters who disagree with your political point of view. I'm not saying that's a *good* thing, but I hardly see how it compares to you and Doug saying pretty much the same rants over and over and over and over and monopolizing the group. I'm not monopolizing the group. I don't have that kind of power. I have responded to messages posted by others. I guess I crossed some invisible line or something! Somehow I bet that line wouldn't have materialized had I been advancing the RNC point of view. Get a room or something. Consider skipping threads that don't interest you. I skipped this for a couple of days, then checked to see what y'all were still yakking about. "Somehow I bet that line wouldn't have materialized had I been advancing the RNC point of view." I think it would have. I don't *care* what your politics are. I also don't care about your sexuality or your religion (and I don't want to hear about them). I am concerned about your anti-religious bigotry. I would much rather be able to respect your opinion on gardening or cooking or whatever, but I have more respect now for Sheldon. I don't like Sheldon, but at least he is just base and offensive, he doesn't try to feign this smug superiority like you. Even your examples of my off-topic posts were distorted and dishonest. I didn't remember posting anything about Ann Coulter, so I went back and looked it up; I didn't say anything about AC, I tried to referee an argument that was breaking out in an off-topic thread started by your buddy Nancree. In the message about Fox News, I said (in a thread that someone else started) that I like them but don't trust them as a single source of news. If you were really looking for an example of my off-topic posts, you would have mentioned my "A shot rang oujt" post to r.f.c., but that one doesn't help you marginalize me so you skipped it. This is my last post in this thread for a while. Hopefully it will die out soon; I don't really wanna contribute to keeping it going any more than I have to. Some things just have to be confronted, and your extended offensive off-topic tirade was one of 'em. Regards, Bob |
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 10:12:53 -0400, Sheila opined:
escapee wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 20:51:59 -0400, Sheila opined: So, it's OK to abort a child? Yes, Sheila. People have abortions. So when is it OK not to take a life. Should a person be allowed to kill a child when it's a week old, maybe an hour old, where do you draw the line? If you are going to quote me, quote me correctly. Don't pick and choose your fear and freaky based ideas out of what I say. Here is the direct quote: ************************************************** ************************************** "Yes, Sheila. People have abortions. That's their karma, not yours. Mind how your own life is going and don't have an abortion if it goes against your principles, but don't slide down the slippery slope of putting religious faith or mix up your emotions with others' emotions. Personally, I am not pro-abortion. I'm pro-choice. I would not now choose to have one, but that's easy for me to say having had a complete hysterectomy. However, I have my right to choose and have had that since I was about 15 years old. Aren't there any more important issues in the world to direct so much energy toward? Why not do fundraiser's for kids in the United States who have nothing to eat tonight. Did you know in the Ozark Mountains there are children who live without running water or electricity? Have you ever been to a really poor community? Maybe the effort you put in to help keep these kids alive is misguided. Maybe you can go out and raise some money to help support these born children, who are actually going to repeat the same thing their mothers did. Have more babies who will have nothing...the beat goes on. Maybe your church should take some of that money and instead of buying a bigger organ, can donate it to these families who are so far out in the bush they don't know there IS a welfare system. Yeah, it exists in America, believe it or not." V ************************************************** ************************************* I will say one thing for you, you are consistently avoiding any confrontation and you are consistently ignorant of the fact that it is not up to YOU. Abortion is legal in the United States, and it is up to the person having the abortion. I am not the one who gets to decide when a life is a life. I have my beliefs and they are way different than yours, but I would never tell another what to do. They will have to live their life as they see fit. It's none of your business. And the line is drawn, in this case, where the law allows. Abortion is legal, case closed. Killing a child is illegal. Next question. V Need a good, cheap, knowledge expanding present for yourself or a friend? http://www.animaux.net/stern/present.html |
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 10:17:22 -0400, Sheila opined:
escapee wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:26:01 -0400, Sheila opined: If you knew me you would know that I'm honest to a fault. That statement alone is dishonest. Nobody, including me, is honest to a fault. If you were The Dalai Lama or, well, I was going to say The Pope, but I think he's full of crap too...anyway, anyone who says they are honest to a fault is utterly dishonest with themselves. That's your opinion, but that doesn't make it true. No, it's true. You are not honest to a fault and if you were the least bit honest with yourself, you'd know that. Need a good, cheap, knowledge expanding present for yourself or a friend? http://www.animaux.net/stern/present.html |
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:58:35 GMT, "Vox Humana" opined:
And then there is Kerry: Looks French Is a Vietnam Vet, who volunteered Has served for two decades in the Senate Have a lot of experience dealing with others Actually went to college Reads the newspaper Can speak without cue cards Is not Bush. Need a good, cheap, knowledge expanding present for yourself or a friend? http://www.animaux.net/stern/present.html |
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 13:02:00 -0500, zxcvbob opined:
Doug, Vox, et al, Could y'all go masturbate somewhere else? Maybe take it to email or something. This group is supposed to be about gardening. Regards, Bob It's also an election year and people who've been posting here for many years are allowed to have a discussion which is off topic. Clearly you can see the subject, can you not? Oh, okay, they stay out of it. Oh, Regards, Victoria Need a good, cheap, knowledge expanding present for yourself or a friend? http://www.animaux.net/stern/present.html |
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 10:12:53 -0400, Sheila wrote:
escapee wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 20:51:59 -0400, Sheila opined: So, it's OK to abort a child? Yes, Sheila. People have abortions. So when is it OK not to take a life. Should a person be allowed to kill a child when it's a week old, maybe an hour old, where do you draw the line? *I* draw the line at the end of my nose. Why do you think YOUR line includes other peoples' wombs? |
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 09:57:19 -0400, Sheila wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote: "The Watcher" wrote in message ... On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:04:05 -0400, Sheila wrote: (snip) I also believe in science do not deny, misrepresent or attempt to stop the teaching of science. As a matter of fact I think teaching science is a good thing. I just don't happen to believe in evolution. Oh boy, another True Believer! Do you really have the courage of your convictions, though? If you REALLY don't believe in evolution, you should make sure and tell your doctor(if you go to doctors, that is) in the event you ever get an infection, that you want him to prescribe nothing but sulfa drugs for you. Sulfa drugs worked just fine for infections when they were developed. They should work just fine now, unless the germs have evolved. Go ahead. Make their day. I don't get antibiotics often, but even so, my doctor has an interesting system. If, for instance, I have a sinus infection and he feels any of 3 drugs will work, he always refers to my records, alternates drugs, and prescribes the one I had in the MOST distant past. His reasoning is precisely what you stated. But, Sheila will tell us that the concept of drug-resistant germs is nothing but junk science. Boy, you guys just don't get it! Of course germs become resistant to drugs, that is a far cry from the whole theory of evolution. Wrong. That is the whole POINT of the whole theory of evolution. It's the reason we don't bother with sulfa drugs any more. Next time you go to the drug store try to find some sulfa drugs, so when you get an infection you won't have to bother going to a doctor. Even better, just forget about all that junk science and find a good old fashioned doctor who might be willing to do some trepanning for you and let those evil demons out of your skull. ;) Like I said before, you guys hold on to your beliefs and I'll hold on to mine. |
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Jesus promoted Christian values, pity he hated the family so much! Matthew 10: 34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. 37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me. Boxer "Bill Oliver" wrote in message ... In article , Vox Humana wrote: The religious right spends the vast majority of its time address issues of sex. Sex education, gay issues, abortion, and so on. They are anti-feminist because of sexual issues. Sadly, they have defined themselves as one-dimensional. No. Bigot. billo -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** http://www.usenet.com Unlimited Download - 19 Seperate Servers - 90,000 groups - Uncensored -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
"Janet Baraclough.." wrote in message ... The message from "Doug Kanter" contains these words: We have a show I find absurd, although nothing as savage as BB. It's called "Trading Spaces". On each episode, two couples (aka "morons") swap houses or apartments and surprise each other with their lack of remodeling & decorating skills. The results have included such monstrosities as walls covered with headache-inducing purple chenille. Oh, we have that. Old hat. We also have "holiday swap"..that's where two unknown and utterly incompatible families have each other's holiday and a thoroughly miserable time doing things they hate. Briefly, we had one whose name I forget, where two bosses swapped companies in incompatible fields, and did economic damage while alienating entire workforces. Currently we're in about the third series of "Wife swap". Unknown and incompatible ma, pa and kids families swap ma's/wives for a fortnight, bicker and whine incessantly, then meet up at the end so that the wives can hurl verbal abuse at each other and both husbands. These are the type of people who decorate their front lawns with tacky stuffed sheep. Round here, people who want sheep to decorate the front lawn just leave the gate open. Janet. Do the sheep keep the lawn edges trimmed? |
Oh please...your news reader, Thunderbird, gives you the option of seeing
just the first message of each thread. That makes it easy to not look at what you don't want to see. "zxcvbob" wrote in message ... Doug, Vox, et al, Could y'all go masturbate somewhere else? Maybe take it to email or something. This group is supposed to be about gardening. Regards, Bob |
"zxcvbob" wrote in message
... This Bush thread has been going on for days and has accounted for about half the messages in this group lately. Doncha think that's enough? In each the the above examples, I posted one or two messages in an existing off-topic discussion thread. I'm not saying that's a *good* thing, but I hardly see how it compares to you and Doug saying pretty much the same rants over and over and over and over and monopolizing the group. Monopolizing??? There still seem to be a healthy number of other subjects listed here. Our conversation has no effect on those other subjects - not that YOU are aware of. |
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "zxcvbob" wrote in message ... This Bush thread has been going on for days and has accounted for about half the messages in this group lately. Doncha think that's enough? In each the the above examples, I posted one or two messages in an existing off-topic discussion thread. I'm not saying that's a *good* thing, but I hardly see how it compares to you and Doug saying pretty much the same rants over and over and over and over and monopolizing the group. Monopolizing??? There still seem to be a healthy number of other subjects listed here. Our conversation has no effect on those other subjects - not that YOU are aware of. As you can see, it is a personal issue. Notice who was targeted out of all the people contributing to the thread. I went back and looked at what I wrote. Most messages had no mention of religion, and those that did were specifically targeting the religious-right which I see primarily as a political movement. I can recall instances where Victoria has been the target of anti-religious slurs but I didn't see Bob getting all hot - but then she isn't a Christian. Bob had no problem with Sheila telling us that teen pregnancy was lower "year ago" and that sex education leads to increased sexual activity but completely ignoring any request to support the assertions. Obviously we were suppose to just accept these things as fact instead of asking for some proof. Paghat mentioned the association of the KKK and Christianity but it was me who was accused of being "anti-religious." Bob says that we posted the same thing over and over and Sheila says we keep changing the subject. I'm accused of being dismissive, but when Sheila tell us that she knows better just because of her unique perspective, then that isn't dismissive. Go figure. |
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 19:34:50 -0500, zxcvbob
wrote: I skipped this for a couple of days If you're worried about wasted space consider trimming your posts...netiquette 101! |
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Doug Kanter wrote: It was clearly pointed out for your benefit that the religious right is NOT REPRESENTATIVE of the majority of REAL Christians. Therefore, YOU have made a one dimensional stereotype. I am clearly pointing out the one-dimensional stereotypes of the so-called religious right are bigoted. You are simply incapable of comprehending that your bigotry is real. billo |
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remove munged wrote: Great Bilbo is a bible and Monsanto whack! Hiding behind another sock puppet, eh? At least I am not ashamed of who I am. billo |
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Doug Kanter wrote: Usually the quiet ones, not the slobs who make it their business to get in other peoples' faces about how they live their lives. Yes, I am glad you are so critical of anti-Christian bigots who do this, particularly by using newsgroups like rec.gardens to spread their bigotry and hatred. billo |
"Bill Oliver" wrote in message ... In article , Doug Kanter wrote: Usually the quiet ones, not the slobs who make it their business to get in other peoples' faces about how they live their lives. Yes, I am glad you are so critical of anti-Christian bigots who do this, particularly by using newsgroups like rec.gardens to spread their bigotry and hatred. billo Ah....but I will *never* affect your life. If you think words interfere with your chosen ways, you're dreaming. |
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Doug Kanter wrote: Ah....but I will *never* affect your life. If you think words interfere with your chosen ways, you're dreaming. Bigotry is bigotry. Claiming impotence is not an excuse. And, by the way, the minute you vote, you are translating your bigotry into actions that affect my life. And the more you attempt to make your bigotry socially acceptable, the more it affects my life. Perhaps you should re-evaluate your love affair with hate instead of trying to justify it. billo |
Vox Humana wrote: "paghat" wrote in message ... In article , zxcvbob wrote: Doug, Vox, et al, Could y'all go masturbate somewhere else? Maybe take it to email or something. This group is supposed to be about gardening. Regards, Bob Bushes are garden plants & loony rightwingers have vegetables where the rest of us have brains, so it IS all about gardens. But you don't like a measily one off-topic thread, don't read it. Your kvetching about it is doubly off-topic -- being off-topic for the off-topic. I suspect that the problems isn't so much that it is an off-topic thread as much as that it isn't flattering to organized religion. Bob accused me of lying about the percentage of priests that were gay a few months ago. When I posted a link to a study conducted by a faculty member at Johns Hopkins University that supported my assertion, not so much as a "sorry" was posted. http://tinyurl.com/46thx http://tinyurl.com/532dy Interestingly, Bob found it just fine to post a message about his fondness for Fox News to Rec.Food.Cooking just last week - sounds off-topic to me. http://tinyurl.com/5b96p And a message about how Germany was "screwed" prior to WWII - to Rec.food.cooking http://tinyurl.com/3mzqj And a message about how USA today declined to print a column by Ann Coulter - to Rec.food.cooking http://tinyurl.com/6998o Now, I'm not saying that Bob shouldn't have posted the messages. I just find it interesting that he has a problem with others posting to off-topic threads here while he posts to off-topic threads on other news groups. No. The problem is that you babbling yahoos are tying up server space and driving out legitimate postings. Take this crap to an appropriate forum! -- SPAMBLOCK NOTICE! To reply to me, delete the h from apkh.net, if it is there. |
"William Brown" wrote in message ... Now, I'm not saying that Bob shouldn't have posted the messages. I just find it interesting that he has a problem with others posting to off-topic threads here while he posts to off-topic threads on other news groups. No. The problem is that you babbling yahoos are tying up server space and driving out legitimate postings. Take this crap to an appropriate forum! I would be interested in some specifics. For instance, how many messages have you been unable to post because of this thread? What happens if this thread is taken to another newsgroup on the same server? |
"escapee" wrote in message ... On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 14:39:12 GMT, "Vox Humana" opined: Maybe I'm being optimistic, or pie in the sky, but I think our generation is finally learning how to be nice and loud, much the way the GOP are, and many people are not used to it. Many people are not used to Democrats or Liberals or anyone outside their primitive agenda, speaking out or giving quotations, or citation on any information to rebuke their false claims. I was thinking the same thing. If you tune into the "shout shows" on cable news like HANNITY and colmbs, you will see that the conservatives have mastered being loud. I was reluctant to speak up until recently thinking that people might not like me if I asked too many questions or said something that was unpopular. It occurred to me that I was in a situation where our president was supporting constitutional amendments to discriminate against me. Violent hate crimes are on the rise. The religious-right is going on TV saying that people like me are responsible for 9/11. The Pope has blamed the moral failures in his organization on gays and has blamed feminists for the advancement of the gay movement. It was obvious that there was nothing to lose. |
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