You be the jerk, Cindy poo!!!

The point went way over your shrunken head!!!

Ignorance is bliss for a twinkie like you!!!

No doubt you have absolutely no clue of the correct names of the plants in
your garden nor where on the planet they originate for that matter.


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"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
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Despite the fact that the average gardener has absolutely no idea why
any
plant is so named the way it is, I will tell you why.

Bottom line:

What a jerk!

Cereus-validus wrote ".........Only the specialty nurseries make an
effort to have plants with proper names.Even many of them are still using
obsolete or fictitious names. ........"
Problem is that much less than 1 gardener in 100 is interested in anything
than plants that will "Look pretty" in their garden.If only there were more
"Plants people" who were really interested and collected plants then life
for the small specialist nursery would be a lot better and it might even be
worth putting multiple names on plants. After all a lot of people come in
asking /or looking for a plant by a name that they have been told or have
read at some time, often they don't know what the plant looks like, so if
they don't find anything with the name they know then they don't buy.
It takes time for name changes to filter down to the public.
It's bad enough trying to keep up when you are in the trade as there is no
one place that everyone can access easily and at a reasonable price that
will keep you up to date.
I know you don't think a lot of the "Plant Finder" but it is one reference
point available to both the professional and the keen amateur.


--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

In article , David Hill david@abacus
nurseries.freeserve.co.uk writes
Cereus-validus wrote ".........Only the specialty nurseries make an
effort to have plants with proper names.Even many of them are still using
obsolete or fictitious names. ........"
Problem is that much less than 1 gardener in 100 is interested in anything
than plants that will "Look pretty" in their garden.If only there were more
"Plants people" who were really interested and collected plants then life
for the small specialist nursery would be a lot better and it might even be
worth putting multiple names on plants. After all a lot of people come in
asking /or looking for a plant by a name that they have been told or have
read at some time, often they don't know what the plant looks like, so if
they don't find anything with the name they know then they don't buy.
It takes time for name changes to filter down to the public.
It's bad enough trying to keep up when you are in the trade as there is no
one place that everyone can access easily and at a reasonable price that
will keep you up to date.

It's not just the horticulturalists that get the names wrong. It often
takes the botanists some time to even get corrected/new names published,
never mind for the community to catch up.

And Botanic Gardens seem to regularly mislabel plants.

I know you don't think a lot of the "Plant Finder" but it is one reference
point available to both the professional and the keen amateur.


--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

In article , Stewart Robert Hinsley
wrote:

In article , David Hill david@abacus
nurseries.freeserve.co.uk writes
Cereus-validus wrote ".........Only the specialty nurseries make an
effort to have plants with proper names.Even many of them are still using
obsolete or fictitious names. ........"
Problem is that much less than 1 gardener in 100 is interested in anything
than plants that will "Look pretty" in their garden.If only there were more
"Plants people" who were really interested and collected plants then life
for the small specialist nursery would be a lot better and it might even be
worth putting multiple names on plants. After all a lot of people come in
asking /or looking for a plant by a name that they have been told or have
read at some time, often they don't know what the plant looks like, so if
they don't find anything with the name they know then they don't buy.
It takes time for name changes to filter down to the public.
It's bad enough trying to keep up when you are in the trade as there is no
one place that everyone can access easily and at a reasonable price that
will keep you up to date.

It's not just the horticulturalists that get the names wrong. It often
takes the botanists some time to even get corrected/new names published,
never mind for the community to catch up.

And Botanic Gardens seem to regularly mislabel plants.

An interest in the taxonomy is a sidelight rather than central feature of
gardening. It's important work, as science is important stuff, but its
applicatioin to gardening & the nursery industry is to en extent
tangential.

If growers & retailers thought it was just awfully important to stay on
top of the taxonomy, in some cases they'd be throwing away thousands of
dollars worth of tags & printing up thousands of dollars worth of new
tags, only to discover that the arguing taxonomists have decided on a
third or fourth name instead, or in some cases decided the previous name
was good enough after all! Ipheion uniflorum is one such example; The
genus Ipheion has been "decidced" on two occasions with other names in
between the decisions, & is presently recategorized Tristagma, but the
arguments are not settled & next year it could very well be decisively
Ipheion for a third time. Or Pulsatilla vulgaris with taxonomists arguing
that it should be returned to the genus Anemone.

Most of us garden blilthely on never knowing what taxonomists are crabbing
about this month, & most of those taxonomists couldn't grow a healthy
attractive garden if their lives depended on it, though they could beat us
in the fine art of slicing up pistils & stamins.

-paghat the ratgirl

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"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
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