No web links as responses, please. I'm looking for input from people who've
actually owned & maintained a butterfly bush, preferably in a northern
climate, zone 5-7. I'm in 5/6, depending on luck (Rochester NY). No
theoretical responses, in other words, like marital advice from priests.

My new (as of 9/04) house came complete with a butterfly bush near the front
door. It's 6' high & 8' wide - a real monster, considering it's position
near the sidewalk. In its center are 3 dead "trunks" about 3" thick. The
previous owner cut them down to 3' and used them as attachment points for
wires which support the outer, thinner branches (not sure that's
necessary-they seem woody and stiff enough). The bulk of the growth looks
like what you'd call "suckers", if they were coming out of the base of a
small tree. These branches were very healthy last fall, supporting lots of
good leaf & flower growth, and poking everyone in the face as we walked by.

I pruned some of the pokiest branches back a bit (for safety) in September,
and they grew back quickly within a couple of weeks. What I'd like to know
is whether I can whack the whole thing back by half, in the hope that maybe
I'll end up with a 3-5' diameter, instead of 8+ feet. The thing seems to
grow like a weed. Is it bulletproof enough for drastic measures?

This is the only flower I've ever seen which attracted bees the size of
grapefruits. Absolutely amazing to watch.

Doug Kanter wrote:
No web links as responses, please. I'm looking for input from people who've
actually owned & maintained a butterfly bush, preferably in a northern
climate, zone 5-7. I'm in 5/6, depending on luck (Rochester NY). No
theoretical responses, in other words, like marital advice from priests.

My new (as of 9/04) house came complete with a butterfly bush near the front
door. It's 6' high & 8' wide - a real monster, considering it's position near
the sidewalk. In its center are 3 dead "trunks" about 3" thick. The previous
owner cut them down to 3' and used them as attachment points for wires which
support the outer, thinner branches (not sure that's necessary-they seem woody
and stiff enough). The bulk of the growth looks like what you'd call
"suckers", if they were coming out of the base of a small tree. These branches
were very healthy last fall, supporting lots of good leaf & flower growth, and
poking everyone in the face as we walked by.

I pruned some of the pokiest branches back a bit (for safety) in September,
and they grew back quickly within a couple of weeks. What I'd like to know is
whether I can whack the whole thing back by half, in the hope that maybe I'll
end up with a 3-5' diameter, instead of 8+ feet. The thing seems to grow like
a weed. Is it bulletproof enough for drastic measures?

This is the only flower I've ever seen which attracted bees the size of
grapefruits. Absolutely amazing to watch.

I have two in my backyard, and had one in my front yard. They can be cut back
pretty drastically. Very drastically. They only need to have a few leaves on
living branches, and they'll still come back to take over the yard by
mid-summer.

The one that I had in the front yard started a bad winter with too much growth.
Three days of ice and heavy snow weighted it down so badly that one of the main
trunks cracked vertically. I had to cut back so far to remove the damage that
there wasn't enough left to live. I'm not upset. The nearby roses that it was
choking out grew like gang busters that year.

For the most part, you should be able to cut back to where the branches bend
over, and leave nothing put upright growth, as long as there's some leaves left.
My neighbor still cuts back further than I feel comfortable doing myself, but
his keep coming back, and my remaining bushes keep trying to take over the
backyard. He's still surprised that I was able to kill the one I did.

--
Warren H.

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Doug Kanter wrote:
No web links as responses, please. I'm looking for input from
people who've actually owned & maintained a butterfly bush,
preferably in a northern climate, zone 5-7. I'm in 5/6, depending
on luck (Rochester NY). No theoretical responses, in other words,
like marital advice from priests.
My new (as of 9/04) house came complete with a butterfly bush near
the front door. It's 6' high & 8' wide - a real monster,
considering it's position near the sidewalk. In its center are 3
dead "trunks" about 3" thick. The previous owner cut them down to
3' and used them as attachment points for wires which support the
outer, thinner branches (not sure that's necessary-they seem woody
and stiff enough). The bulk of the growth looks like what you'd
call "suckers", if they were coming out of the base of a small
tree. These branches were very healthy last fall, supporting lots
of good leaf & flower growth, and poking everyone in the face as we
walked by.
I pruned some of the pokiest branches back a bit (for safety) in
September, and they grew back quickly within a couple of weeks.
What I'd like to know is whether I can whack the whole thing back
by half, in the hope that maybe I'll end up with a 3-5' diameter,
instead of 8+ feet. The thing seems to grow like a weed. Is it
bulletproof enough for drastic measures?
This is the only flower I've ever seen which attracted bees the
size of grapefruits. Absolutely amazing to watch.

You can prune it to the ground in late winter and it will grow from its
roots in the spring and flower in the summer.

--

Travis in Shoreline (just North of Seattle) Washington
USDA Zone 8b
Sunset Zone 5

"Travis" expounded:

You can prune it to the ground in late winter and it will grow from its
roots in the spring and flower in the summer.

If you prune it to the ground around here in late winter you'll kill
it.

Prune it when you see the first burst of growth in late spring.

--
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
e-mail address is not checked
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"Ann" wrote in message
...
"Travis" expounded:

You can prune it to the ground in late winter and it will grow from its
roots in the spring and flower in the summer.

If you prune it to the ground around here in late winter you'll kill
it.

This sounds right. When I pruned mine a little in September, it immediately
began sending out new growth. I wouldn't want to suggest that idea to the
plant when there's still a risk of temps in the teens.

"Doug Kanter" expounded:

"Ann" wrote in message
.. .
"Travis" expounded:

You can prune it to the ground in late winter and it will grow from its
roots in the spring and flower in the summer.

If you prune it to the ground around here in late winter you'll kill
it.

This sounds right. When I pruned mine a little in September, it immediately
began sending out new growth. I wouldn't want to suggest that idea to the
plant when there's still a risk of temps in the teens.


Yea, that's the problem. Pruning encourages growth on buddlejas. In
our climate that would be a death sentence before mid-May at the
earliest.
--
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
e-mail address is not checked
******************************

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:15:50 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote:

This is the only flower I've ever seen which attracted bees the size of
grapefruits. Absolutely amazing to watch.

Grapefruits! Damn, I'm lucky (or is that unlucky?) to see ones the size of kumquats!

Here's a photo of a bee on a butterfly bush that I took last year (can't comment on the pruning
thereof, it was my first year having some)

http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/db.jpg