I've got some young fruit trees that I'm not going to use the fruit from
(too young still to have much). The birds are nesting in the trees so I
would rather not spray the trees. Are there any spikes for systemic insect
control or disease control that those in the know would recommend? Would
appreciate advise to help keep the trees healthy.

I have apple, peach, plums and cherry.

Thanks,

Kim

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"K, T, E & N" wrote:

I've got some young fruit trees that I'm not going to use the fruit from
(too young still to have much). The birds are nesting in the trees so I
would rather not spray the trees. Are there any spikes for systemic insect
control or disease control that those in the know would recommend? Would
appreciate advise to help keep the trees healthy.

I have apple, peach, plums and cherry.

Thanks,

Kim

Systemic poisons and food just seem to clash big time with me. It
scares me frankly. Dormant oil comes to mind along with plenty of air
flow and traps. Having a large commercial orchard near may attract more
pest like Peach borers for example and peaches may have to be replaced
by apples as just one alternative.

There was a new study released within the last few days concerning
pesticides and Parkinson¹s disease. Please note that rotenone is a
major player as well an Organic pesticide. Poison is Poison....Be
careful!

Bill

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Garden in shade Zone 5 S Jersey USA
Long -75.0246 Lat 39.637876
Enjoy http://terrafly.fiu.edu/

"William Wagner" wrote in message
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In article ,
"K, T, E & N" wrote:

I've got some young fruit trees that I'm not going to use the fruit from
(too young still to have much). The birds are nesting in the trees so I
would rather not spray the trees. Are there any spikes for systemic
insect
control or disease control that those in the know would recommend?
Would
appreciate advise to help keep the trees healthy.

I have apple, peach, plums and cherry.

Thanks,

Kim

Systemic poisons and food just seem to clash big time with me. It
scares me frankly. Dormant oil comes to mind along with plenty of air
flow and traps. Having a large commercial orchard near may attract more
pest like Peach borers for example and peaches may have to be replaced
by apples as just one alternative.

There was a new study released within the last few days concerning
pesticides and Parkinson¹s disease. Please note that rotenone is a
major player as well an Organic pesticide. Poison is Poison....Be
careful!

Here's some interesting info......

Report Card: Pesticides in Produce
http://www.foodnews.org/reportcard.php

12 Most Contaminated
Buy These Organic

• Apples
• Bell Peppers
• Celery
• Cherries
• Imported Grapes
• Nectarines
• Peaches
• Pears
• Potatoes
• Red Raspberries
• Spinach
• Strawberries

"Eating the 12 most contaminated fruits and vegetables will expose a
person to nearly 20 pesticides per day...

"Peaches had the most pesticides overall with some combination of up to
45 pesticides found on the samples tested, followed by raspberries with 39
pesticides and apples and strawberries, both with 36."

how long does something systemic stay in the tree's system? This is
something I just want to do for this summer so that I don't have to spray
the trees with the bird's nesting in them. I just have 6 fruit trees in my
yard - not an orchard. No orchards close by that I know of. The apple, at
least, gets rust. Don't really have that much trouble.

Kim

Dormant oil comes to mind along with plenty of air
flow and traps. snip Poison is Poison....Be careful!

Bill

--
Garden in shade Zone 5 S Jersey USA
Long -75.0246 Lat 39.637876
Enjoy http://terrafly.fiu.edu/

In article , says...
I've got some young fruit trees that I'm not going to use the fruit from
(too young still to have much). The birds are nesting in the trees so I
would rather not spray the trees. Are there any spikes for systemic insect
control or disease control that those in the know would recommend? Would
appreciate advise to help keep the trees healthy.

I have apple, peach, plums and cherry.

Thanks,

Kim

I don't think I would chance any sort of systemic insecticide even
though the fruit will be for future use....for what it's worth I am sure
any number of products that I have used over the years professionally
could be argued to be harsher than what you will get over the counter
and I have yet to ever see hatchlings die from a service.
--
Lar

to email....get rid of the BUGS

So spray anyway and don't worry about the birds?
Kim
"Lar" wrote in message
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I don't think I would chance any sort of systemic insecticide even
though the fruit will be for future use....for what it's worth I am sure
any number of products that I have used over the years professionally
could be argued to be harsher than what you will get over the counter
and I have yet to ever see hatchlings die from a service.
--
Lar

to email....get rid of the BUGS

In article , says...
So spray anyway and don't worry about the birds?
Kim

If you have a need to spray you should be able to do it with concern of
the nesting birds and try to keep it away from the nest..if it is low
enough you could use plastic from the dry cleaners or saran wrap and
create a protective umbrella for the two to three minutes it takes to
treat the tree.

--
Lar

to email....get rid of the BUGS

Firstly, it seems strange that birds would nest in young fruit trees. Wouldn't pick
a nice tall tree to really get protection?

I personally never heard of any such spikes you seek. The best suggestion so far,
seems to be to temporarily cover the nest while you spray.

In answer to the organic aspects of fruit, there is a big difference between fruit
grown commercially and that in your backyard. The former gives you no control
over when the last spraying was done before picking. In your own orchard, you
can time the spraying so that enough time has elapsed before picking. These
chemicals will break down from exposure to the elements (sun, rain, and wind),
given enough time. Of course, it is always wise to wash your fruit before consumption.
I use traps and dormant oil, but without sprays, you can kiss goodbye to a large portion
of your harvest.

Sherwin D.

"K, T, E & N" wrote:

I've got some young fruit trees that I'm not going to use the fruit from
(too young still to have much). The birds are nesting in the trees so I
would rather not spray the trees. Are there any spikes for systemic insect
control or disease control that those in the know would recommend? Would
appreciate advise to help keep the trees healthy.

I have apple, peach, plums and cherry.

Thanks,

Kim

"sherwindu" wrote in message
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Firstly, it seems strange that birds would nest in young fruit trees.
Wouldn't pick
a nice tall tree to really get protection?

snort! Ever hear the term 'bird brain?" I've got a maple tree that a
pair are nesting in - the branch is only 5 feet off the ground. I can walk
over and look right in the nest. Blue bird houses can be nailed to a 4 foot
fence. Etc .....

Kim