On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:56:57 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Vegan-Organic Principles? Give me a f..king break. No animal products - do
they think horses and cows suffer if we use their manure??? :-)



So much for your purported tolerance of differing ideas!

On 6/18/05 10:49 AM, in article ,
"Janet Baraclough" wrote:

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from "Doug Kanter" contains these words:


"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
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from "Doug Kanter" contains these words:

Vegan-Organic Principles? Give me a f..king break. No animal products -
do
they think horses and cows suffer if we use their manure??? :-)

Yes Doug. It's stealing their resources, which is dishonest and
manipulative. Horses need their poop to grow more grass to eat.

If God intended you to misappropriate horse manure to put on your
garden. would he have designed horses to just poop at random on their
own pasture/dinner, and grow more grass? Of course not. He would have
designed them to do it in huge litter trays. Or at least, straight into
plastic bags near the roadside.

Janet

OK. If you're so smart, how do YOU think it gets into those bags, if the
horses aren't doing what you said? You think people package it? That's
insane, Janet.

Party-poopers do it on their wild nights out. That's how they got the
name, don't you know anything???

Janet.



SPEW!!!!

Cheryl

Sorry I hadn't posted in a while and didn't catch the troll....


On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:54:21 -0700, Tom Jaszewski
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:56:57 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Vegan-Organic Principles? Give me a f..king break. No animal products - do
they think horses and cows suffer if we use their manure??? :-)



So much for your purported tolerance of differing ideas!

From: Bourne Identity : Sun, 19 Jun
2005 20:16:03 GMT
Local: Sun,Jun 19 2005 4:16 pm
Subject: OT/ Vegan Fertilizer

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"How ya been Tom? Long time no see."


Is Tom still working at the Mirage? Does the volcano come under his
job description?
Betty

No volcano's for me!! But I still am tending palms....


On 19 Jun 2005 13:44:18 -0700, "Betty Harris"
wrote:

From: Bourne Identity : Sun, 19 Jun
2005 20:16:03 GMT
Local: Sun,Jun 19 2005 4:16 pm
Subject: OT/ Vegan Fertilizer

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"How ya been Tom? Long time no see."


Is Tom still working at the Mirage? Does the volcano come under his
job description?
Betty

OK V, still keeping up with sustainable practices and doing well...

Still blazing away with compost extracts. So far the results have been
good except in Paggers garden!

Was inducted into the "SFI Hero to Zero" club recently for asking to
many questions, but there are a lot more of us than I expected! I've
plenty of company and lots to continue to learn.

I was entertained by the vegan fertilizer thread! Every time I lecture
with vegans in the crowd, they are shocked by what organics standards
allow for fertilizers.



On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:16:03 GMT, Bourne Identity
wrote:

How ya been Tom? Long time no see.

V


On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:01:01 -0700, Tom Jaszewski opined:

Sorry I hadn't posted in a while and didn't catch the troll....


On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:54:21 -0700, Tom Jaszewski
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:56:57 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Vegan-Organic Principles? Give me a f..king break. No animal products - do
they think horses and cows suffer if we use their manure??? :-)



So much for your purported tolerance of differing ideas!

In article , X-No-Archive: yes
wrote:

OK V, still keeping up with sustainable practices and doing well...

Still blazing away with compost extracts. So far the results have been
good except in Paggers garden!

Careful there. The best studies show that compost "extracts" (as the
shifting sales-jargon lately decided to prefer, since "teas" having been
so roundly discredited) have the same effect in gardens as regular
watering. That's a pretty damned good effect, watering. My garden does
fine with regular watering, & would do as well (but no better) if I wanted
to fall prey to shills & scam artists & self-deluded vested interests who
promote pricy equipment to help people waste time making compost teas that
would be at best is an inferior tepid fertilizer & in the main no
different from watering the garden properly. But the studies are pretty
clear: Compost teas/extracts provide no improvement over that of regular
watering in microorganism populations, nor in health of plants, & provide
no "bonus" features of protection against plant pathogens. Those the plain
facts vested despite that vested interests keep denying the comparative
field studies apply to THEIR special magical blends.

-paggers

Was inducted into the "SFI Hero to Zero" club recently for asking to
many questions, but there are a lot more of us than I expected! I've
plenty of company and lots to continue to learn.

I was entertained by the vegan fertilizer thread! Every time I lecture
with vegans in the crowd, they are shocked by what organics standards
allow for fertilizers.



On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:16:03 GMT, Bourne Identity
wrote:

How ya been Tom? Long time no see.

V
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On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:39:46 -0700,
(paghat) wrote:

In article , X-No-Archive: yes
wrote:

OK V, still keeping up with sustainable practices and doing well...

Still blazing away with compost extracts. So far the results have been
good except in Paggers garden!

Careful there.

Yup I know, just not in your yard.....:)

In article ,
says...
Maybe it was the 62 inches of rain we got last year in Texas (these parts,
anyway). Maybe the foxes are eating all the lizards? Maybe who knows why.


I don't recall if you are one that goes out of your way to attract
birds..any increase in populations of sparrows, blue jays, mockingbirds,
grackles and probably any other medium sized insectivore birds would
cause a decrease in the smaller reptiles.
--
Lar

to email....get rid of the BUGS

From: Bourne Identity
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"I doubt he'd like you saying that here, but it takes all kinds I
suppose.


If Tom didn't want anyone to know where he works then he wouldn't have
made a fricken TV show about it, would he, Eikel?