Eggs Zachtly wrote:

me said:

Any cheaper alternatives to Round Up out there?

Just look for Glyphosate as the active ingredient.

last year for my soybean crop I purchased 2.5 gallon containers
of 41% Glyphosate for around $48.00 each. this year the same
product at the same store was $92.95

http://www.agrisupply.com/glystar-or...79/cn/2600031/

Jim said:

Eggs Zachtly wrote:

me said:

Any cheaper alternatives to Round Up out there?

Just look for Glyphosate as the active ingredient.

last year for my soybean crop I purchased 2.5 gallon containers
of 41% Glyphosate for around $48.00 each. this year the same
product at the same store was $92.95

http://www.agrisupply.com/glystar-or...79/cn/2600031/

Damn, d00d. I'm sure they're blaming the price of gasoline, no?

--

Eggs

Show me a man with both feet firmly on the ground, and I'll show you a man
who can't get his pants off.

Eggs Zachtly wrote:

last year for my soybean crop I purchased 2.5 gallon containers
of 41% Glyphosate for around $48.00 each. this year the same
product at the same store was $92.95

http://www.agrisupply.com/glystar-or...79/cn/2600031/

Damn, d00d. I'm sure they're blaming the price of gasoline, no?


Ha!

It does make me wonder if this fuel cost thing is being
used as a scapegoat for many products so they can
"gouge" us consumers!

On Jun 7, 5:44*pm, wrote:
Eggs Zachtly wrote:
last year for my soybean crop I purchased 2.5 gallon containers
of 41% Glyphosate for around $48.00 each. *this year the same
product at the same store was $92.95

http://www.agrisupply.com/glystar-or.../p/57379/cn/26...

Damn, d00d. I'm sure they're blaming the price of gasoline, no?

Ha!

It does make me wonder if this fuel cost thing is being
used as a scapegoat for many products so they can
"gouge" us consumers!

in my piddly experience with corporations, i have come to the
following conclusions, which i call the dumpster effect:

pretty much every corporation is cooking the books, a little or a lot,
in order to keep stock prices up and keep the management salaries up.
pretty much every department of every corporation is cooking the
books, a little or a lot, to keep the management employed.
whenever some economic glitch comes along, no matter how trivial, it's
regarded as an opportunity to balance the books somehow, and saddle
that glitch with the under the counter deficit being concealed. so
that some minor product gets recalled by the FDA, and the next thing
you know the companies reporting a huge loss, which doesn't make
economic sense.
it's sort of like when you have a dumpster delivered to your house for
some project, and by the next morning it's magically full of all sorts
of items which you don't recognize at all.

I forgot the name of the active ingredient roundup, but it many products, prices and concentration just to buy components. On the other hand, long-term "to kill weeds throughout the season" version of the synthesis report and other brands have different ingredients.

wrote in message
...

It does make me wonder if this fuel cost thing is being
used as a scapegoat for many products so they can
"gouge" us consumers!

It is a good thing the inflation rate is so low, or I'd be worried.

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:41:58 -0700, "Bob F"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .

It does make me wonder if this fuel cost thing is being
used as a scapegoat for many products so they can
"gouge" us consumers!

It is a good thing the inflation rate is so low, or I'd be worried.


Considering how the prices of so many staples are going up, I don't
see how inflation can be low. I guess it's because people can't afford
to buy so demand is dropping. We're in big trouble thanks to the
borrow and spend Republicans.

On Jun 11, 7:37*am, dgk wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:41:58 -0700, "Bob F"
wrote:



wrote in message
.. .

It does make me wonder if this fuel cost thing is being
used as a scapegoat for many products so they can
"gouge" us consumers!

It is a good thing the inflation rate is so low, or I'd be worried.

Considering how the prices of so many staples are going up, I don't
see how inflation can be low. I guess it's because people can't afford
to buy so demand is dropping. We're in big trouble thanks to the
borrow and spend Republicans.


Oh yeah, it's all the Republicans. Last time I checked, Democrats
control both the Senate and House. And they are solidly in control
of the House, where all spending bills must originate. Yet the pork
continues to flow.

The prices of staples that have shot up the most are oil and food.
And the food part is directly related to laws passed to drive more
corn into ethanol. That has driven up the price of not only grains,
but also meats as well. And last time I checked the Democrats want
more use of alternative fuels, including ethanol, so don't lay this
off on Republicans.

If it were up to Republicans, we would be drilling in ANWR and in most
of the offshore USA today and building new nuclear power plants.
Instead, we go around refusing to utilize our own resources, while
bitching. It was Clinton who vetoed the bill authorizing drilling in
ANWR in the mid 90's. If we had opened ANWR, we'd have at least 1
mil barrels a day flowing from there now. And it's entirely
possible that there's an elephant size field as big as Saudia Arabia's
in ANWR. No one knows, because Democrats and environmental extremists
won't allow even test wells to be drilled to find out.

As for offshore, we now have China drilling in Cuba waters closer to
Florida, to gain access to oil that we could be drilling for.
Where's the Democrat lead initiative to change any of this? Their
energy solution: Tax the oil companies more.

On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:56:53 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Jun 11, 7:37*am, dgk wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:41:58 -0700, "Bob F"
wrote:



wrote in message
.. .

It does make me wonder if this fuel cost thing is being
used as a scapegoat for many products so they can
"gouge" us consumers!

It is a good thing the inflation rate is so low, or I'd be worried.

Considering how the prices of so many staples are going up, I don't
see how inflation can be low. I guess it's because people can't afford
to buy so demand is dropping. We're in big trouble thanks to the
borrow and spend Republicans.


Oh yeah, it's all the Republicans. Last time I checked, Democrats
control both the Senate and House. And they are solidly in control
of the House, where all spending bills must originate. Yet the pork
continues to flow.

The prices of staples that have shot up the most are oil and food.
And the food part is directly related to laws passed to drive more
corn into ethanol. That has driven up the price of not only grains,
but also meats as well. And last time I checked the Democrats want
more use of alternative fuels, including ethanol, so don't lay this
off on Republicans.

If it were up to Republicans, we would be drilling in ANWR and in most
of the offshore USA today and building new nuclear power plants.
Instead, we go around refusing to utilize our own resources, while
bitching. It was Clinton who vetoed the bill authorizing drilling in
ANWR in the mid 90's. If we had opened ANWR, we'd have at least 1
mil barrels a day flowing from there now. And it's entirely
possible that there's an elephant size field as big as Saudia Arabia's
in ANWR. No one knows, because Democrats and environmental extremists
won't allow even test wells to be drilled to find out.

As for offshore, we now have China drilling in Cuba waters closer to
Florida, to gain access to oil that we could be drilling for.
Where's the Democrat lead initiative to change any of this? Their
energy solution: Tax the oil companies more.


I don't think I'll bother.

on 6/11/2008 7:56 AM said the following:
On Jun 11, 7:37 am, dgk wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:41:58 -0700, "Bob F"
wrote:




wrote in message
...

It does make me wonder if this fuel cost thing is being
used as a scapegoat for many products so they can
"gouge" us consumers!

It is a good thing the inflation rate is so low, or I'd be worried.

Considering how the prices of so many staples are going up, I don't
see how inflation can be low. I guess it's because people can't afford
to buy so demand is dropping. We're in big trouble thanks to the
borrow and spend Republicans.



Oh yeah, it's all the Republicans. Last time I checked, Democrats
control both the Senate and House. And they are solidly in control
of the House, where all spending bills must originate. Yet the pork
continues to flow.

The prices of staples that have shot up the most are oil and food.
And the food part is directly related to laws passed to drive more
corn into ethanol. That has driven up the price of not only grains,
but also meats as well. And last time I checked the Democrats want
more use of alternative fuels, including ethanol, so don't lay this
off on Republicans.

If it were up to Republicans, we would be drilling in ANWR and in most
of the offshore USA today and building new nuclear power plants.
Instead, we go around refusing to utilize our own resources, while
bitching. It was Clinton who vetoed the bill authorizing drilling in
ANWR in the mid 90's. If we had opened ANWR, we'd have at least 1
mil barrels a day flowing from there now. And it's entirely
possible that there's an elephant size field as big as Saudia Arabia's
in ANWR. No one knows, because Democrats and environmental extremists
won't allow even test wells to be drilled to find out.

As for offshore, we now have China drilling in Cuba waters closer to
Florida, to gain access to oil that we could be drilling for.
Where's the Democrat lead initiative to change any of this? Their
energy solution: Tax the oil companies more.

Yep, cut the tax breaks and increase the taxes.
Guess who'll make up for the lost tax breaks and increased taxes?
Look in the mirror.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

wrote in message
...
On Jun 11, 7:37 am, dgk wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:41:58 -0700, "Bob F"
wrote:



wrote in message
.. .

It does make me wonder if this fuel cost thing is being
used as a scapegoat for many products so they can
"gouge" us consumers!

It is a good thing the inflation rate is so low, or I'd be worried.

Considering how the prices of so many staples are going up, I don't
see how inflation can be low. I guess it's because people can't afford
to buy so demand is dropping. We're in big trouble thanks to the
borrow and spend Republicans.


Oh yeah, it's all the Republicans. Last time I checked, Democrats
control both the Senate and House. And they are solidly in control
of the House, where all spending bills must originate. Yet the pork
continues to flow.

************************************************** *******

Democrats are not quite in control. Republicans are fillibustering just about
everything that comes through the senate, with the announced intention of trying
to make this look loke a do-nothing congress. They have already more than
doubled the record for the number of fillibuster in a congressional session. You
can't blame this on the democrats.

On Jun 11, 6:37*am, dgk wrote:


Considering how the prices of so many staples are going up, I don't
see how inflation can be low. I guess it's because people can't afford
to buy so demand is dropping.

It's all government spin. They use "core" items to measure inflation
- items that rarely change in value and are not subject to value
spikes. The 'government' does not buy gasoline, food, medicine, etc
like the public does, so they do not use those values in their
inflation factors. The big problem with their funky inflation figures
is that it sets cost-of-living rates for the general population at a
level that is unrealistic in the real economy.

Red

On Jun 11, 10:02*am, Red wrote:
On Jun 11, 6:37*am, dgk wrote:



Considering how the prices of so many staples are going up, I don't
see how inflation can be low. I guess it's because people can't afford
to buy so demand is dropping.

It's all government spin. *They use "core" items to measure inflation
- items that rarely change in value and are not subject to value
spikes. *The 'government' does not buy gasoline, food, medicine, etc
like the public does, so they do not use those values in their
inflation factors.

Wrong. The CPI has nothing to do with what the govt buys or doesn't
buy. It's a statistical sampling of what CONSUMERS buy and it most
definitely includes gasoline, food, and medicine. The core
inflation rate is the overall number minus volatile components, like
food and energy and is reported at the same time. Many economists
give more credence to the core as an indication of widespread
inflation in the general economy. Both numbers are widely reported
when released.



*The big problem with their funky inflation figures
is that it sets cost-of-living rates for the general population at a
level that is unrealistic in the real economy.

Red

"Bob F" wrote:


wrote in message
.. .

It does make me wonder if this fuel cost thing is being
used as a scapegoat for many products so they can
"gouge" us consumers!

It is a good thing the inflation rate is so low, or I'd be worried.


Ha!!

That made me laugh! Thanks!

wrote in message
...
"Bob F" wrote:


wrote in message
. ..

It does make me wonder if this fuel cost thing is being
used as a scapegoat for many products so they can
"gouge" us consumers!

It is a good thing the inflation rate is so low, or I'd be worried.


Ha!!

That made me laugh! Thanks!

You're welcome.