muzician21 wrote:
On Jul 7, 12:32 am, "ChairMan" wrote:

It could be the blade, it may be a mulching blade which would not have the
same lift as a regular blade.


It is a mulching blade but that's what's been on it since the 70's.

Tony Hwang wrote:
muzician21 wrote:
Have an old 21" Snapper pusher. For the first time in several years
I've decided to start bagging the grass instead of mulching it.
Problem is, I'm now finding that the grass clogs the chute in short
order. Very little actually makes it into the bag. The last time I
bagged the grass this wasn't a problem.

I tried cleaning the bag thinking maybe a lack of air flow was somehow
an issue - gave it a good scrubbing in the tub with lots of detergent.
Sharpened the blade. I found the bottom lip of the chute was splitting
so I formed some sheet aluminum to fit over the lip and pop-riveted it
in place to give the grass a smooth entry point. None of this has
helped.

Why would this now be an issue when it hasn't been in the past? Same
mower, same blade.
Hi,
Maybe gras is too wet? Is it clean under the deck? No build up of grass
particles? Once under the deck is cleaned you can spray silicon grease
to keep it clean.

"Silicon grease"? Is that what is used for lubricating
integrated circuits or sand piles?

TDD

"muzician21" wrote in message
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On Jul 7, 12:32 am, "ChairMan" wrote:

It could be the blade, it may be a mulching blade which would not have the
same lift as a regular blade.


It is a mulching blade but that's what's been on it since the 70's.
*****

A blade that is used to bag the grass has a different angle (steeper) which
generates the air flow necessary to bag the grass. A mulching blade does not
have this. Invest a few bucks in a regular blade if you really want it bag
the grass.

Larry

On Jul 6, 7:56*pm, muzician21 wrote:
Have an old 21" Snapper pusher. For the first time in several years
I've decided to start bagging the grass instead of mulching it.
Problem is, I'm now finding that the grass clogs the chute in short
order. Very little actually makes it into the bag. The last time I
bagged the grass this wasn't a problem.

I tried cleaning the bag thinking maybe a lack of air flow was somehow
an issue - gave it a good scrubbing in the tub with lots of detergent.
Sharpened the blade. I found the bottom lip of the chute was splitting
so I formed some sheet aluminum to fit over the lip and pop-riveted it
in place to give the grass a smooth entry point. None of this has
helped.

Why would this now be an issue when it hasn't been in the past? Same
mower, same blade.

Any rain recently? Do you cut early or late in the day? Mulch it, its
natural fertiliser and mulch, "Slip Plate" works I use it on my
snowblower chute.

muzician21 wrote:
On Jul 7, 12:03 am, Matt wrote:

Wild guess: Has the speed of the mower changed? Maybe the blade is
turning slower due to a change in the engine---say a changed idle speed,
plugged air cleaner, plugged carb jet?



Runs great, like it always has. I don't have a tach on it but I don't
detect any difference. Certainly I shouldn't have to run it wide open
for the bag to catch the grass.

Yes, you should have to run it at top speed for it to bag right.

--
Art

On Jul 7, 2:46*am, "Larry" wrote:
"muzician21" wrote in message

It is a mulching blade but that's what's been on it since the 70's.
*****

A blade that is used to bag the grass has a different angle (steeper) which
generates the air flow necessary to bag the grass. A mulching blade does not
have this. * Invest a few bucks in a regular blade if you really want it bag
the grass.


After further consideration, I think I might be wrong about it being
the original blade. Today I got a "universal" 21" blade from Home
Depot but the center hole isn't wide enough. Think it would make any
difference if I reamed out the hole as opposed to finding a Snapper
blade that fits? Anything special about Snapper blades?

On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:56:30 -0700 (PDT), against all advice,
something compelled muzician21 , to say:

Have an old 21" Snapper pusher. For the first time in several years
I've decided to start bagging the grass instead of mulching it.
Problem is, I'm now finding that the grass clogs the chute in short
order. Very little actually makes it into the bag. The last time I
bagged the grass this wasn't a problem.

I tried cleaning the bag thinking maybe a lack of air flow was somehow
an issue - gave it a good scrubbing in the tub with lots of detergent.
Sharpened the blade. I found the bottom lip of the chute was splitting
so I formed some sheet aluminum to fit over the lip and pop-riveted it
in place to give the grass a smooth entry point. None of this has
helped.



Spray the chute with WD-40.





--

Don't worry about people stealing an idea. If it's original, you will
have to ram it down their throats.
- Howard Aiken

On Jul 8, 12:01*am, muzician21 wrote:
On Jul 7, 2:46*am, "Larry" wrote:

"muzician21" wrote in message
It is a mulching blade but that's what's been on it since the 70's.
*****

A blade that is used to bag the grass has a different angle (steeper) which
generates the air flow necessary to bag the grass. A mulching blade does not
have this. * Invest a few bucks in a regular blade if you really want it bag
the grass.

After further consideration, I think I might be wrong about it being
the original blade. Today I got a "universal" 21" blade from Home
Depot but the center hole isn't wide enough. Think it would make any
difference if I reamed out the hole as opposed to finding a Snapper
blade that fits? Anything special about Snapper blades?

You wont ream it evenly, it will make it unbalanced and will have to
be balanced, but I bet it has a mulch blade, the best. CR has mulch
ratings you can compare, I bet your machine rates well so its your
conditions making it clog.

In article , "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:

"muzician21" wrote in message
...
Have an old 21" Snapper pusher. For the first time in several years
I've decided to start bagging the grass instead of mulching it.
Problem is, I'm now finding that the grass clogs the chute in short
order. Very little actually makes it into the bag. The last time I
bagged the grass this wasn't a problem.

Why would this now be an issue when it hasn't been in the past? Same
mower, same blade.

Mulching did such a good job your grass is not thicker than before so there
is more to pass through the chute. Go back to mulching for a better lawn.


I never pick up now, mostly out of need. Big lawns are tough, and sometimes
it gets too long. That would really clog things. I don't even have a mulching blade,
or blades I should say. Feed the earth worms. Most Chem lawn yards
don't have earth worms.

In the old neighborhood, nobody had earth worms afer all the chemical treatments
mostly in the 70's and 80's. I actually started to replant earth worms in the old
yard after the parents stopped using Chem Lawn for many years.

greg

muzician21 wrote:
Have an old 21" Snapper pusher. For the first time in several years
I've decided to start bagging the grass instead of mulching it.
Problem is, I'm now finding that the grass clogs the chute in short
order. Very little actually makes it into the bag. The last time I
bagged the grass this wasn't a problem.

I tried cleaning the bag thinking maybe a lack of air flow was somehow
an issue - gave it a good scrubbing in the tub with lots of detergent.
Sharpened the blade. I found the bottom lip of the chute was splitting
so I formed some sheet aluminum to fit over the lip and pop-riveted it
in place to give the grass a smooth entry point. None of this has
helped.

Why would this now be an issue when it hasn't been in the past? Same
mower, same blade.

If the machine is the same, three factors besides moisture can cause
clogging:
The amount of grass you are cutting.
The stickiness of the stuff you're cutting.
The amount of air the mower is sucking.

Raising the cutting height can help a lot. It lets the machine suck
more air while reducing the amount of vegetation being cut.

Cutting more frequently will reduce clogging.

A habit of cutting too low in summer can change a lawn so that clogging
becomes a problem. After low cutting, the sun heats the soil more, and
that can allow weedy hot-weather grasses to take over. Cutting at 3-5"
can keep the soil cool enough for fescue to thrive. Fescue cuts nicely
in my experience.

Cutting higher may improve a problem lawn so that it becomes easier to
mow each year. A lawn that once caused clogging dry may improve so that
it cuts without trouble wet or dry.

E Z Peaces wrote:

If the machine is the same, three factors besides moisture can
cause clogging:
The amount of grass you are cutting.
The stickiness of the stuff you're cutting.
The amount of air the mower is sucking.

(cutting up-hill vs downhill, having a clean bag that allows airflow)

Bend the bag support frame so the back end of the bag is flat or
slightly lower with respect to the chute opening.

Problem solved.

muzician21 wrote:
On Jul 7, 2:46 am, "Larry" wrote:
"muzician21" wrote in message

It is a mulching blade but that's what's been on it since the 70's.
*****

A blade that is used to bag the grass has a different angle (steeper) which
generates the air flow necessary to bag the grass. A mulching blade does not
have this. Invest a few bucks in a regular blade if you really want it bag
the grass.


After further consideration, I think I might be wrong about it being
the original blade. Today I got a "universal" 21" blade from Home
Depot but the center hole isn't wide enough. Think it would make any
difference if I reamed out the hole as opposed to finding a Snapper
blade that fits? Anything special about Snapper blades?



A universal blade will not work on a Snapper. Go to a lawnmower shop and
ask for a snapper bagging blade. It's has a higher lift than the std
Snapper blade. Take your current blade (the one that fits) with you to
compare length and center hole.

--
Art

EXT wrote:

[....]

Spring grass is juicy and sticks to the duct blocking it. Wet grass is
similar as well as damp grass. If the grass is too long and damp to pick up,
I have found that doing a quick mow without picking it up is best. If the
sun is shining, even an hour later, remow it and it will be dry enough to
pick up easily without any clogging.

even though this technique takes a bit more effort the end result
is a cleaner better looking job...

I've got two Snapper self propelled run behind mowers and the only
problem I've ever encountered with them is they don't bag wet or damp
grass very well.

Cally wrote:

muzician21 wrote:
Have an old 21" Snapper pusher.
[....]
Why would this now be an issue when it hasn't been in the past? Same
mower, same blade.

See if your oompa is tangled.

that was rather observant of you to realize the older Snapper's used
the oompa in stead of the gigolator newer models are equipped with.

g

Jim wrote:
Cally wrote:

muzician21 wrote:
Have an old 21" Snapper pusher.
[....]
Why would this now be an issue when it hasn't been in the past? Same
mower, same blade.
See if your oompa is tangled.

that was rather observant of you to realize the older Snapper's used
the oompa in stead of the gigolator newer models are equipped with.

g

I thought it was the vacillating framistan that was
causing all the malfunctions in that series of lawn
mowers.

TDD