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Hi,

I am totally new to this group but figured it would be an appropriate
place to ask this question.

About two months ago I got stung several times by bees while mowing
the lawn. After re-inspecting the area I realized that there is about
a 2-3 inch wide hole in the ground where bees were entering and
exiting. At the time it wasn't bad, and I'm not into killing bees
just because they sting.

However in the last month it has gotten pretty bad. My daughter and I
have both been stung a few times and the dog has been stung also. I
allow(ed) neighborhood kids to play basketball in my driveway and they
started getting stung too (waiting for the lawsuits). I've been told
they can't be bees, that they must be yellow jackets, but I've spent
plenty of time watching them exit this hole, and they are DEFINITELY
bees of some sort. I'm not a expert, but I'd swear they were standard
honeybees. They get pretty upset if you get too near the hole.

Well, they need to go. My father came over with a "sure fix" which
was to pour gasoline down the hole and ignite it. This killed a bunch
of them, but this morning it is business as usual.

I live in Illinois (if that helps anyone identify the bee type).
Can't keep letting people get stung by these critters.

Has anyone else had experience with this problem and can help me
figure out the best and most fullproof way to get rid of these pests?
I've inspected pretty thoroughly and am fairly convinced there is only
one hole. I've been told a lot of remedys (garden hoses, simply
plugging the hole) but been told they don't work. Since I risk
getting stung multiple times if something goes wrong, I'd really like
to get this right the first (well...actually second) time. It would
also be nice if whatever solution didn't hurt my lawn...

And in case you couldn't tell after being stung multiple times I'm
getting pretty afraid of them too...

Thanks in advance.
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Old 22-09-2003, 09:34 PM
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You have yellow jackets. They look alot like bees but aren't "fuzzy"
liek a honey be is. And they are agressive. Personally I have had best
results with poison. Spray the entrance hole with wasp spray every
couple days till they are gone. Covering the general area with Diazon
and watering good helps too. the Diazon works throuogh the soil and
poisons the whole nest.


glenecho wrote in message . ..
Hi,

I am totally new to this group but figured it would be an appropriate
place to ask this question.

About two months ago I got stung several times by bees while mowing
the lawn. After re-inspecting the area I realized that there is about
a 2-3 inch wide hole in the ground where bees were entering and
exiting. At the time it wasn't bad, and I'm not into killing bees
just because they sting.

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Old 23-09-2003, 03:52 AM
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Hi,

I am totally new to this group but figured it would be an appropriate
place to ask this question.

About two months ago I got stung several times by bees while mowing
the lawn. After re-inspecting the area I realized that there is about
a 2-3 inch wide hole in the ground where bees were entering and
exiting. At the time it wasn't bad, and I'm not into killing bees
just because they sting.

However in the last month it has gotten pretty bad. My daughter and I
have both been stung a few times and the dog has been stung also. I
allow(ed) neighborhood kids to play basketball in my driveway and they
started getting stung too (waiting for the lawsuits). I've been told
they can't be bees, that they must be yellow jackets, but I've spent
plenty of time watching them exit this hole, and they are DEFINITELY
bees of some sort. I'm not a expert, but I'd swear they were standard
honeybees. They get pretty upset if you get too near the hole.

Well, they need to go. My father came over with a "sure fix" which
was to pour gasoline down the hole and ignite it. This killed a bunch
of them, but this morning it is business as usual.


The only mistake made here was lighting it. You just leave it in there
and the fumes will spread throughout the hole(s) and fumigate them all. No
more problem. I have done this more than once and never had a recurrence of
the pests.
If you want to go a more expensive route, call your local exterminator,
who can come out and put a special powdered chemical around the hole, and
they will eventually go through this powder to get to their queen to keep
her alive. In the process, they'll carry the poison in to her and the hive
is doomed. The queen gone, the hive scatters and perishes. I had to resort
to this when yellow jackets nested in my attic in an inaccessible space.
They were gone in one night. Cost me $35 if I remember right, more than
worth the trouble.
Good luck.
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Old 30-09-2003, 10:04 AM
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It is really easy to get rid of yellow jackets without all the pouring of
chemicals into the ground. If they are yellow jackets, and the ones in my
area are different looking that bees in that they have brighter yellow
markings and their rear ends are a bit longer and pointier than honeybees.
Although I've seen a bee hive in an abandoned cesspool on the side of a
hill, bees seem to like trees and being up in the air more. Honeybees
aren't generally as aggresive and I've spent hours standing next to a
hive(when I had a few hives in my yard) and been ignored mostly...although
if a guard bee starts buzzing you it's wise to move away).

Buy a yellow jacket trap, a transparent plastic cylinder type of thing that
you hang somewhere nearby. They come with a chemical attractant and the
yellow jackets go into the trap through a narrowing inside cone and can't
get out. When the trap is full of dead yellowjackets you unscrew the top
and dump them, and set it back up again. I've used meat instead of
attractant and it seems to work just as well.

The tradeoff is time...chemicals work quickly, although their residue in the
soil stays a long time. The trap takes days or a few weeks, but when I've
used it the effect has lasted for years. 5+ years later I get an occasional
yellow jacket on my back porch looking for water, but the colony never
returned after it was wiped out by this simple trap. The trap costs around
$10 if I remember correctly, and can be reused many times if necessary.

A chemical way I tried once, before I knew about the traps, is to pour
kerosene in the hole and plug it up with something(a large rag?) good, and
make sure you find and plug the secondary entrance/exit. The fumes will
kill them. I did that in the middle of the night, when they were asleep.

Good luck

John



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"glenecho" wrote in message
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Hi,

I am totally new to this group but figured it would be an appropriate
place to ask this question.

About two months ago I got stung several times by bees while mowing
the lawn. After re-inspecting the area I realized that there is about
a 2-3 inch wide hole in the ground where bees were entering and
exiting. At the time it wasn't bad, and I'm not into killing bees
just because they sting.

However in the last month it has gotten pretty bad. My daughter and I
have both been stung a few times and the dog has been stung also. I
allow(ed) neighborhood kids to play basketball in my driveway and they
started getting stung too (waiting for the lawsuits). I've been told
they can't be bees, that they must be yellow jackets, but I've spent
plenty of time watching them exit this hole, and they are DEFINITELY
bees of some sort. I'm not a expert, but I'd swear they were standard
honeybees. They get pretty upset if you get too near the hole.

Well, they need to go. My father came over with a "sure fix" which
was to pour gasoline down the hole and ignite it. This killed a bunch
of them, but this morning it is business as usual.


The only mistake made here was lighting it. You just leave it in there
and the fumes will spread throughout the hole(s) and fumigate them all. No
more problem. I have done this more than once and never had a recurrence

of
the pests.
If you want to go a more expensive route, call your local

exterminator,
who can come out and put a special powdered chemical around the hole, and
they will eventually go through this powder to get to their queen to keep
her alive. In the process, they'll carry the poison in to her and the hive
is doomed. The queen gone, the hive scatters and perishes. I had to resort
to this when yellow jackets nested in my attic in an inaccessible space.
They were gone in one night. Cost me $35 if I remember right, more than
worth the trouble.
Good luck.
--
Off to ride the mountains, D H
Reply to newsgroup. Spam is out of control.





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Old 20-11-2003, 05:05 PM
 
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I too had the big bee problem, then I put gas in the hole and covered
it with plastic for two days. problem gone to another part of my yard.
took 4 time to rid my yard of these pest. Good luck



On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:48:33 -0500, glenecho wrote:

Hi,

I am totally new to this group but figured it would be an appropriate
place to ask this question.

About two months ago I got stung several times by bees while mowing
the lawn. After re-inspecting the area I realized that there is about
a 2-3 inch wide hole in the ground where bees were entering and
exiting. At the time it wasn't bad, and I'm not into killing bees
just because they sting.

However in the last month it has gotten pretty bad. My daughter and I
have both been stung a few times and the dog has been stung also. I
allow(ed) neighborhood kids to play basketball in my driveway and they
started getting stung too (waiting for the lawsuits). I've been told
they can't be bees, that they must be yellow jackets, but I've spent
plenty of time watching them exit this hole, and they are DEFINITELY
bees of some sort. I'm not a expert, but I'd swear they were standard
honeybees. They get pretty upset if you get too near the hole.

Well, they need to go. My father came over with a "sure fix" which
was to pour gasoline down the hole and ignite it. This killed a bunch
of them, but this morning it is business as usual.

I live in Illinois (if that helps anyone identify the bee type).
Can't keep letting people get stung by these critters.

Has anyone else had experience with this problem and can help me
figure out the best and most fullproof way to get rid of these pests?
I've inspected pretty thoroughly and am fairly convinced there is only
one hole. I've been told a lot of remedys (garden hoses, simply
plugging the hole) but been told they don't work. Since I risk
getting stung multiple times if something goes wrong, I'd really like
to get this right the first (well...actually second) time. It would
also be nice if whatever solution didn't hurt my lawn...

And in case you couldn't tell after being stung multiple times I'm
getting pretty afraid of them too...

Thanks in advance.




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Old 20-11-2003, 05:10 PM
 
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I too had the big bee problem, then I put gas in the hole and covered
it with plastic for two days. problem gone to another part of my yard.
took 4 time to rid my yard of these pest. Good luck



On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:48:33 -0500, glenecho wrote:

Hi,

I am totally new to this group but figured it would be an appropriate
place to ask this question.

About two months ago I got stung several times by bees while mowing
the lawn. After re-inspecting the area I realized that there is about
a 2-3 inch wide hole in the ground where bees were entering and
exiting. At the time it wasn't bad, and I'm not into killing bees
just because they sting.

However in the last month it has gotten pretty bad. My daughter and I
have both been stung a few times and the dog has been stung also. I
allow(ed) neighborhood kids to play basketball in my driveway and they
started getting stung too (waiting for the lawsuits). I've been told
they can't be bees, that they must be yellow jackets, but I've spent
plenty of time watching them exit this hole, and they are DEFINITELY
bees of some sort. I'm not a expert, but I'd swear they were standard
honeybees. They get pretty upset if you get too near the hole.

Well, they need to go. My father came over with a "sure fix" which
was to pour gasoline down the hole and ignite it. This killed a bunch
of them, but this morning it is business as usual.

I live in Illinois (if that helps anyone identify the bee type).
Can't keep letting people get stung by these critters.

Has anyone else had experience with this problem and can help me
figure out the best and most fullproof way to get rid of these pests?
I've inspected pretty thoroughly and am fairly convinced there is only
one hole. I've been told a lot of remedys (garden hoses, simply
plugging the hole) but been told they don't work. Since I risk
getting stung multiple times if something goes wrong, I'd really like
to get this right the first (well...actually second) time. It would
also be nice if whatever solution didn't hurt my lawn...

And in case you couldn't tell after being stung multiple times I'm
getting pretty afraid of them too...

Thanks in advance.


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Old 20-11-2003, 05:57 PM
 
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I too had the big bee problem, then I put gas in the hole and covered
it with plastic for two days. problem gone to another part of my yard.
took 4 time to rid my yard of these pest. Good luck



On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:48:33 -0500, glenecho wrote:

Hi,

I am totally new to this group but figured it would be an appropriate
place to ask this question.

About two months ago I got stung several times by bees while mowing
the lawn. After re-inspecting the area I realized that there is about
a 2-3 inch wide hole in the ground where bees were entering and
exiting. At the time it wasn't bad, and I'm not into killing bees
just because they sting.

However in the last month it has gotten pretty bad. My daughter and I
have both been stung a few times and the dog has been stung also. I
allow(ed) neighborhood kids to play basketball in my driveway and they
started getting stung too (waiting for the lawsuits). I've been told
they can't be bees, that they must be yellow jackets, but I've spent
plenty of time watching them exit this hole, and they are DEFINITELY
bees of some sort. I'm not a expert, but I'd swear they were standard
honeybees. They get pretty upset if you get too near the hole.

Well, they need to go. My father came over with a "sure fix" which
was to pour gasoline down the hole and ignite it. This killed a bunch
of them, but this morning it is business as usual.

I live in Illinois (if that helps anyone identify the bee type).
Can't keep letting people get stung by these critters.

Has anyone else had experience with this problem and can help me
figure out the best and most fullproof way to get rid of these pests?
I've inspected pretty thoroughly and am fairly convinced there is only
one hole. I've been told a lot of remedys (garden hoses, simply
plugging the hole) but been told they don't work. Since I risk
getting stung multiple times if something goes wrong, I'd really like
to get this right the first (well...actually second) time. It would
also be nice if whatever solution didn't hurt my lawn...

And in case you couldn't tell after being stung multiple times I'm
getting pretty afraid of them too...

Thanks in advance.


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Old 20-11-2003, 05:57 PM
 
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I too had the big bee problem, then I put gas in the hole and covered
it with plastic for two days. problem gone to another part of my yard.
took 4 time to rid my yard of these pest. Good luck



On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:48:33 -0500, glenecho wrote:

Hi,

I am totally new to this group but figured it would be an appropriate
place to ask this question.

About two months ago I got stung several times by bees while mowing
the lawn. After re-inspecting the area I realized that there is about
a 2-3 inch wide hole in the ground where bees were entering and
exiting. At the time it wasn't bad, and I'm not into killing bees
just because they sting.

However in the last month it has gotten pretty bad. My daughter and I
have both been stung a few times and the dog has been stung also. I
allow(ed) neighborhood kids to play basketball in my driveway and they
started getting stung too (waiting for the lawsuits). I've been told
they can't be bees, that they must be yellow jackets, but I've spent
plenty of time watching them exit this hole, and they are DEFINITELY
bees of some sort. I'm not a expert, but I'd swear they were standard
honeybees. They get pretty upset if you get too near the hole.

Well, they need to go. My father came over with a "sure fix" which
was to pour gasoline down the hole and ignite it. This killed a bunch
of them, but this morning it is business as usual.

I live in Illinois (if that helps anyone identify the bee type).
Can't keep letting people get stung by these critters.

Has anyone else had experience with this problem and can help me
figure out the best and most fullproof way to get rid of these pests?
I've inspected pretty thoroughly and am fairly convinced there is only
one hole. I've been told a lot of remedys (garden hoses, simply
plugging the hole) but been told they don't work. Since I risk
getting stung multiple times if something goes wrong, I'd really like
to get this right the first (well...actually second) time. It would
also be nice if whatever solution didn't hurt my lawn...

And in case you couldn't tell after being stung multiple times I'm
getting pretty afraid of them too...

Thanks in advance.


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I too had the big bee problem, then I put gas in the hole and covered
it with plastic for two days. problem gone to another part of my yard.
took 4 time to rid my yard of these pest. Good luck



On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:48:33 -0500, glenecho wrote:

Hi,

I am totally new to this group but figured it would be an appropriate
place to ask this question.

About two months ago I got stung several times by bees while mowing
the lawn. After re-inspecting the area I realized that there is about
a 2-3 inch wide hole in the ground where bees were entering and
exiting. At the time it wasn't bad, and I'm not into killing bees
just because they sting.

However in the last month it has gotten pretty bad. My daughter and I
have both been stung a few times and the dog has been stung also. I
allow(ed) neighborhood kids to play basketball in my driveway and they
started getting stung too (waiting for the lawsuits). I've been told
they can't be bees, that they must be yellow jackets, but I've spent
plenty of time watching them exit this hole, and they are DEFINITELY
bees of some sort. I'm not a expert, but I'd swear they were standard
honeybees. They get pretty upset if you get too near the hole.

Well, they need to go. My father came over with a "sure fix" which
was to pour gasoline down the hole and ignite it. This killed a bunch
of them, but this morning it is business as usual.

I live in Illinois (if that helps anyone identify the bee type).
Can't keep letting people get stung by these critters.

Has anyone else had experience with this problem and can help me
figure out the best and most fullproof way to get rid of these pests?
I've inspected pretty thoroughly and am fairly convinced there is only
one hole. I've been told a lot of remedys (garden hoses, simply
plugging the hole) but been told they don't work. Since I risk
getting stung multiple times if something goes wrong, I'd really like
to get this right the first (well...actually second) time. It would
also be nice if whatever solution didn't hurt my lawn...

And in case you couldn't tell after being stung multiple times I'm
getting pretty afraid of them too...

Thanks in advance.


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Old 21-11-2003, 02:44 AM
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" wrote:
I too had the big bee problem, then I put gas in the hole and covered
it with plastic for two days. problem gone to another part of my yard.
took 4 time to rid my yard of these pest. Good luck

One blanket diazinon app usually works better, right before a rain. The
trouble is, people have used it and dursban way too much. You could buy it
at Walmart, and follow the label safely.

Safely? Joe homeowner adds 6 ounces when it calls for two. Bye Bye
organo's.

Sevin works fairly well too. Dunno how long it will be before they ban
that retail product too. (do the nests when it's dark)


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Old 22-11-2003, 03:12 AM
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next time you have a bee problem, call a bee collector and they will take
the bees for free or put out bee traps early spring and catch the queen
bees before the queens can make their nests. dont do anything to the bees
or the collectors wont take them .

" wrote:

I too had the big bee problem, then I put gas in the hole and covered
it with plastic for two days. problem gone to another part of my yard.
took 4 time to rid my yard of these pest. Good luck

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:48:33 -0500, glenecho wrote:

Hi,

I am totally new to this group but figured it would be an appropriate
place to ask this question.

About two months ago I got stung several times by bees while mowing
the lawn. After re-inspecting the area I realized that there is about
a 2-3 inch wide hole in the ground where bees were entering and
exiting. At the time it wasn't bad, and I'm not into killing bees
just because they sting.

However in the last month it has gotten pretty bad. My daughter and I
have both been stung a few times and the dog has been stung also. I
allow(ed) neighborhood kids to play basketball in my driveway and they
started getting stung too (waiting for the lawsuits). I've been told
they can't be bees, that they must be yellow jackets, but I've spent
plenty of time watching them exit this hole, and they are DEFINITELY
bees of some sort. I'm not a expert, but I'd swear they were standard
honeybees. They get pretty upset if you get too near the hole.

Well, they need to go. My father came over with a "sure fix" which
was to pour gasoline down the hole and ignite it. This killed a bunch
of them, but this morning it is business as usual.

I live in Illinois (if that helps anyone identify the bee type).
Can't keep letting people get stung by these critters.

Has anyone else had experience with this problem and can help me
figure out the best and most fullproof way to get rid of these pests?
I've inspected pretty thoroughly and am fairly convinced there is only
one hole. I've been told a lot of remedys (garden hoses, simply
plugging the hole) but been told they don't work. Since I risk
getting stung multiple times if something goes wrong, I'd really like
to get this right the first (well...actually second) time. It would
also be nice if whatever solution didn't hurt my lawn...

And in case you couldn't tell after being stung multiple times I'm
getting pretty afraid of them too...

Thanks in advance.


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Old 23-11-2003, 07:19 PM
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Everyone with bee problems (not wasps or yellowjackets, but BEES)...see if
you can find a local beekeeper. Often these folks will remove the nest for
free, because they have a commercial (and often personal, if they are really
into their work) interest in the nest.

`B


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Everyone with bee problems (not wasps or yellowjackets, but BEES)...see if
you can find a local beekeeper. Often these folks will remove the nest for
free, because they have a commercial (and often personal, if they are really
into their work) interest in the nest.

`B


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