The Bald Ass Prairie Farm rosielle@telus wrote:
"quietguy" wrote in message

much easier to just pop a desertspoon or so of kero in each tyre - stops
the mossies from breeding

Or just soap, they breed and the larva drown.

Or, don't store tires outside in the rain.

Anthony

Anthony Matonak wrote:
The Bald Ass Prairie Farm rosielle@telus wrote:
"quietguy" wrote in
message

much easier to just pop a desertspoon or so of kero in each tyre -
stops
the mossies from breeding

Or just soap, they breed and the larva drown.

Or, don't store tires outside in the rain.

Anthony

And what is that bit about re-cycling?? Never heard of any effort to
set up bins for rubber.

Harry K

Tire parts can easily be placed into existing recycling-bins. Since the
sidewalls don't contain embedded steel-belts, the sidwalls would be
valued by recycing industries. "Buyback programs would be an even
better idea than just placing tire parts in recycling bins!"

In article . com, wrote:
Tire parts can easily be placed into existing recycling-bins. Since the
sidewalls don't contain embedded steel-belts, the sidwalls would be
valued by recycing industries. "Buyback programs would be an even
better idea than just placing tire parts in recycling bins!"

Who's going to fund the buy-back programs?


--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?

Doug Miller wrote:
In article . com, wrote:

Tire parts can easily be placed into existing recycling-bins. Since the
sidewalls don't contain embedded steel-belts, the sidwalls would be
valued by recycing industries. "Buyback programs would be an even
better idea than just placing tire parts in recycling bins!"

Who's going to fund the buy-back programs?

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)


Why the tire companies of course. No! Wait! Then they'd raise the price
of their product and we, the consumer, would end up paying for it.

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Doug Miller wrote:
In article . com,
wrote:

Tire parts can easily be placed into existing recycling-bins. Since the
sidewalls don't contain embedded steel-belts, the sidwalls would be
valued by recycing industries. "Buyback programs would be an even
better idea than just placing tire parts in recycling bins!"

Who's going to fund the buy-back programs?

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)


Why the tire companies of course. No! Wait! Then they'd raise the price of
their product and we, the consumer, would end up paying for it.

Yeah, and they might start making tires that last longer and run better too,
so they can avoid the expensive recycling tax on cheap worn-out tires.

wrote:
Tire parts can easily be placed into existing recycling-bins. Since
the
sidewalls don't contain embedded steel-belts, the sidwalls would be
valued by recycing industries. "Buyback programs would be an even
better idea than just placing tire parts in recycling bins!"

By golly you're right. Lets see, there is "newspaper", there is
"cardboard" there is "steel cans" and over there "aluminum cans' Over
in that corner is the invisible bin for 'rubber'. In short, no, you
can't place it in existing bins, they don't exist...at least not in
this area.

Harry K

On 3/24/2005 9:26 AM US(ET), Harry K took fingers to keys, and typed the
following:

Anthony Matonak wrote:


The Bald Ass Prairie Farm rosielle@telus wrote:


"quietguy" wrote in


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much easier to just pop a desertspoon or so of kero in each tyre -


stops


the mossies from breeding


Or just soap, they breed and the larva drown.


Or, don't store tires outside in the rain.

Anthony



And what is that bit about re-cycling?? Never heard of any effort to
set up bins for rubber.

Harry K


http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/recycling...rumbrubber.htm

--
Bill

"Tire parts can easily be placed into existing recycling-bins. Since
the
sidewalls don't contain embedded steel-belts, the sidwalls would be
valued by recycing industries. "

What a total moron. Every community that I'm aware of requires
recyclables to be seperated by type. And none of them accept tires or
tire parts as part of the std household recycling stream. Some will
take tires as part of a seperate special program, typically for a fee
and at a drop off location that is entirely seperate from the std
recycling pick up. And those are a headache to get rid of too. In
fact, here in NJ, the state recently instituted a tax on tires to help
pay for getting rid of them, because no one wants them.

wrote:
"Tire parts can easily be placed into existing recycling-bins. Since
the
sidewalls don't contain embedded steel-belts, the sidwalls would be
valued by recycing industries. "

Every community that I'm aware of requires
recyclables to be seperated by type. And none of them accept tires or
tire parts as part of the std household recycling stream.

Here in CA, most types of clean waste (styrofoam one of the exceptions)
can be placed (and mixed-in) the recycling bins e.g., all the different
types of paper, plastics, metals, etc. Nothing has been said about
rubber or tire-parts.

Some will
take tires as part of a seperate special program, typically for a fee
and at a drop off location that is entirely seperate from the std
recycling pick up.

When new tires are put on cars, the tire-shops charge an extra-fee to
customers who opt not to deal with the old tires.

And those are a headache to get rid of too. In
fact, here in NJ, the state recently instituted a tax on tires to
help
pay for getting rid of them, because no one wants them.

Crumb-rubber is increasingly valued as a road-paving additive.
Steel-belts in tires may damage even the industrial-standard equipment
that grinds tires into crumb-rubber; another reason for tire-recycling
industries to consider the tire-parts free of steel-belts!

"Here in CA, most types of clean waste (styrofoam one of the
exceptions)
can be placed (and mixed-in) the recycling bins e.g., all the different

types of paper, plastics, metals, etc. Nothing has been said about
rubber or tire-parts. "

The fact that nothing has been said about tire parts or rubber pretty
much tells you that they don't want them in the recyclables, doesn't
it? I'm sure no one is regularly chopping up tires and putting them in
with the other standard recyclables. And if they did, what do you
think would happen to it when it gets to the recycling facility? Most
likely, it would get chucked into the stuff headed for the land fill.

I also find it interesting that in your area of CA you can just mix all
the recyclables together. It's very unusual to see paper mixed with
glass, cans etc. I would think this would make a big mess to try to
sort out. More typical is to have it seperated:

newpaper
mixed other paper
glass/cans/plastic

And event these typically have some restricitions. For example, glass
means containers, not window glass, and as you pointed out, plastic
means household containers, not styrofoam, etc. Some also require
glass seperated from metals.

writes:
In fact, here in NJ, the state recently instituted a tax on tires to help
pay for getting rid of them, because no one wants them.

A recent tv doco showed a new recycling scheme for discarded tyres that
is being licenced around the world. To start with the tyre is soaked in
oil for a length of time and this causes it to magically soften and the
wire reinforcing can be easily drawn out. Then it is shredded and
subjected to microwave heating. (I forget at which stage the steel fibres
in the belt are extracted.) The result of a one car ty a few spoonsful
of carbon powder, half a cupful of steel fibres each about the length of a
toothpick, and 2 litres of oil. All these are of value to industry, with a
nett return of $2 I think it was after costs are taken out. Apparently all
of the tyre is converted so this makes the used tyre 100% recyclable.
--
John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)

Speaking of recycling, tire-recycling initiatives can get a boost; as
the sidewalls of tires (easily available in tire parts) do not contain
steel belts, which may make sidewalls valued for ease of
recycling.(snip)

There is often a steel cable embedded underneath the bead of the
sidewall.
One of the recycling technologies used for tires these days is to burn
them for the heat they generate, in a furnace designed for making
limestone into cement powder. It is efficient, with the ash becoming
part of the cement.
Years ago, I remember seeing tire treads cut and shaped into soles of
sandals made in Mexico. There was also a company here in the US that
made used inner tubes into purses and wallets. I don't know if they're
still around.
Steel belts have certainly complicated the recycling of tires, for
which there used to be a good market.-Jitney

wrote:
Speaking of recycling, tire-recycling initiatives can get a boost; as
the sidewalls of tires (easily available in tire parts) do not
contain
steel belts, which may make sidewalls valued for ease of
recycling.(snip)

There is often a steel cable embedded underneath the bead of the
sidewall.

Have "tire-recycling" industries considered equipment that cuts the
sidewalls off of the tread, and the steel cables off sidewalls? This
would be less expensive than equipment that processes whole tires;
where steel belts and cables can periodically wear-out equipment;
resulting in costly repairs.

One of the recycling technologies used for tires these days is to
burn
them for the heat they generate, in a furnace designed for making
limestone into cement powder. It is efficient, with the ash becoming
part of the cement.
Years ago, I remember seeing tire treads cut and shaped into soles
of
sandals made in Mexico. There was also a company here in the US that
made used inner tubes into purses and wallets. I don't know if
they're
still around.
Steel belts have certainly complicated the recycling of tires, for
which there used to be a good market.-Jitney

wrote:

Why would anyone "store" tires on their property? I've never seen this
but then I've never lived in a trailer park?

In PA, a tire store will give me $1 for every tire that I take away.
I could make a good living by "storing" 1 million tires.

Nick