On 1 Jul 2005 06:13:03 -0700, wrote:

"I haven't read anything like an admission...care to repost with the
complete header? "

Why don't you learn to use the internet like the rest of us, instead of
expecting someone else to do it for you. Ever hear of Google? It's
not hard to find if you look instead of shooting off your mouth.


No problems with Google here Chet boy...perhaps you should read and
search before you spew...

" No problems with Google here Chet boy...perhaps you should read and
search before you spew... "

Apparently you do have a problem reading threads, otherwise you'd have
seen this, before you called me a putz. And even now, instead of
appologizing you pretend it never happened. So, I think it's quite
obvious who's the real putz here.




Doug Kanter Jun 30, 8:38 am show options

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"Tom Jaszewski" wrote in message


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On 28 Jun 2005 18:21:55 -0700, wrote:

Oh, wow imagine that! The govt allowed industry to "play a role in
shaping the EPA decision." I would have thought they would just take
input from guys like Doug Kanter, after all, he's quite an expert.
He's a real renaissance man who can tell everyone how to have a
beautiful lawn without any chemicals, calls lawn care professionals
thugs, and even has time to advocate poisoning neighbors pets and
making bigotted remarks about the handicapped. Why should anyone doubt
Doug? LOL


Perhaps you could display a little more than ignorance of Usenet and
check some of the postings from Kanter. Just an ounce of skill and
you'd find he's being spoofed...PUTZ!



Actually, I *did* post the article. But, trader4 is young, and has
missed 40
years worth of chemical industry antics. He doesn't understand how they

operate. Not only that, but he doesn't understand how legislation (and
legislators) are manipulated by the industries which are affected by
potential new laws.

OK Putz now the handicapped header and I will apologize....


On 2 Jul 2005 10:06:18 -0700, wrote:

" No problems with Google here Chet boy...perhaps you should read and
search before you spew... "

Apparently you do have a problem reading threads, otherwise you'd have
seen this, before you called me a putz. And even now, instead of
appologizing you pretend it never happened. So, I think it's quite
obvious who's the real putz here.




Doug Kanter Jun 30, 8:38 am show options

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"Tom Jaszewski" wrote in message


.. .


On 28 Jun 2005 18:21:55 -0700, wrote:

Oh, wow imagine that! The govt allowed industry to "play a role in
shaping the EPA decision." I would have thought they would just take
input from guys like Doug Kanter, after all, he's quite an expert.
He's a real renaissance man who can tell everyone how to have a
beautiful lawn without any chemicals, calls lawn care professionals
thugs, and even has time to advocate poisoning neighbors pets and
making bigotted remarks about the handicapped. Why should anyone doubt
Doug? LOL


Perhaps you could display a little more than ignorance of Usenet and
check some of the postings from Kanter. Just an ounce of skill and
you'd find he's being spoofed...PUTZ!



Actually, I *did* post the article. But, trader4 is young, and has
missed 40
years worth of chemical industry antics. He doesn't understand how they

operate. Not only that, but he doesn't understand how legislation (and
legislators) are manipulated by the industries which are affected by
potential new laws.

If you spent half as much time responding to the questions you're afraid to
answer, you might learn something. But hey...the world needs pussies, or the
brave would not stand out as much.

Here we go again:

If chemical companies use animal tests and "find" that the animals are not
harmed by chemicals, they declare the tests to be conclusive.

If another researcher uses animal tests with the exact same chemical
product, and the animals get sick, the manufacturers say animal tests are
not valid because animals don't react to chemicals in the same way as
humans.

Both cannot be correct. So, what's up with this situation?

wrote in news:1120268832.447474.20260
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

Clearly you have a political agenda. Why bring these wild conspiracy
theories about aspartame and gulf war syndrome to the lawn/garden
newsgroup? Perhaps cause it's the only place left that doesn't know
you;'re a kook?


tsk, tsk. But you think wild conspiracy theories about Iraq having WMDs is
okay, don't you.

"Doug Kanter" posted:
If chemical companies use animal tests and "find" that the animals
are not harmed by chemicals, they declare the tests to be conclusive.

If another researcher uses animal tests with the exact same chemical
product, and the animals get sick, the manufacturers say animal tests
are not valid because animals don't react to chemicals in the same
way as humans.

Both cannot be correct. So, what's up with this situation?

Or the other situation, that Ronald Reagan fires the FDA coordinator,
hires a new one on advise of his buddy Mister Aspartame (Donald
Rumsfeld), and was a Defense Contractor that worked for Donald.

Arthur Hull Hayes
FDA Commissioner
hired in 1981
fired in 1983 for accepting corporate gifts in exchange
of his approvals for drugs.
went to work for G.D. Searle & Company,
(as a medical advisor)
(Donald Rumsfeld is CEO of this company)

The approval of drug by the FDA was based upon firing the FDA
commissioner, and putting in a new commissioner that would approve
the chemical known as aspartame. He based his approval upon
reports presented by the company that manufactured aspartame,
G.D. Searle & Company (of which Donald Rumsfeld was a CEO).

Boy it sures does swing in a very tight circle there. And the guy was
FIRED for accepting gifts. He then went to work for Donald
Rumsfeld again, as a "medical professional".

That's a VERY TIGHT circle there, where the people approving
things are hired because they WILL APPROVE, and hired
because they work FOR a company that needs approval.

--
Jim Carlock
Please post replies to newsgroup.

Doug Kanter wrote:
But hey...the world needs pussies, or the
brave would not stand out as much.

You should know, puss.

"G Henslee" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
But hey...the world needs pussies, or the brave would not stand out as
much.

You should know, puss.



Oh good....another sap, falling asleep with an empty six pack.

For more comments on how agriculture is shaping the evolution and
destruction of species, you may find this essay interesting: "On the
Semantics of Evolution".

http://www.ergonica.com/downloads.htm.

EWIRM: Nature makes plants, humans make weeds!

"raycruzer" wrote in message
oups.com...
For more comments on how agriculture is shaping the evolution and
destruction of species, you may find this essay interesting: "On the
Semantics of Evolution".

http://www.ergonica.com/downloads.htm.

EWIRM: Nature makes plants, humans make weeds!


You're expecting a lot of the children here. :-)

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"raycruzer" wrote in message
oups.com...
For more comments on how agriculture is shaping the evolution and
destruction of species, you may find this essay interesting: "On the
Semantics of Evolution".

http://www.ergonica.com/downloads.htm.

EWIRM: Nature makes plants, humans make weeds!


You're expecting a lot of the children here. :-)

You have no room to talk, Kanter. Check out some of Doug's finer posts here.

http://tinyurl.com/8etz7

http://tinyurl.com/8etz7

"happy gardener" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"raycruzer" wrote in message
oups.com...
For more comments on how agriculture is shaping the evolution and
destruction of species, you may find this essay interesting: "On the
Semantics of Evolution".

http://www.ergonica.com/downloads.htm.

EWIRM: Nature makes plants, humans make weeds!


You're expecting a lot of the children here. :-)

You have no room to talk, Kanter. Check out some of Doug's finer posts
here.

http://tinyurl.com/8etz7

http://tinyurl.com/8etz7


You must be very young. Compare the headers on those posts to the ones in
THIS DISCUSSION. You'll notice that the ones you posted are different.
That's because they were posted by someone else posing as me. Probably
trader4, who doesn't like it when people point out the sins of his favorite
chemical companies.

Meanwhile, do you have anything useful to add to this discussion?

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"happy gardener" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"raycruzer" wrote in message
oups.com...
For more comments on how agriculture is shaping the evolution and
destruction of species, you may find this essay interesting: "On the
Semantics of Evolution".

http://www.ergonica.com/downloads.htm.

EWIRM: Nature makes plants, humans make weeds!


You're expecting a lot of the children here. :-)

You have no room to talk, Kanter. Check out some of Doug's finer posts
here.

http://tinyurl.com/8etz7

http://tinyurl.com/8etz7


You must be very young. Compare the headers on those posts to the ones in
THIS DISCUSSION. You'll notice that the ones you posted are different.
That's because they were posted by someone else posing as me. Probably
trader4, who doesn't like it when people point out the sins of his
favorite chemical companies.

I didn't expect you to admit what a bigot you are. Speaking of headers, this
is from YOU also.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...16149005?hl=en

"happy gardener" wrote in message
news

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"happy gardener" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"raycruzer" wrote in message
oups.com...
For more comments on how agriculture is shaping the evolution and
destruction of species, you may find this essay interesting: "On the
Semantics of Evolution".

http://www.ergonica.com/downloads.htm.

EWIRM: Nature makes plants, humans make weeds!


You're expecting a lot of the children here. :-)

You have no room to talk, Kanter. Check out some of Doug's finer posts
here.

http://tinyurl.com/8etz7

http://tinyurl.com/8etz7


You must be very young. Compare the headers on those posts to the ones in
THIS DISCUSSION. You'll notice that the ones you posted are different.
That's because they were posted by someone else posing as me. Probably
trader4, who doesn't like it when people point out the sins of his
favorite chemical companies.

I didn't expect you to admit what a bigot you are. Speaking of headers,
this is from YOU also.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...16149005?hl=en

Sorry, Einstein. Wrong again.

Yes or no question: Do you know what a message header is?

Yes, or no.