Um, y'all come on down! That means all y'all! (No, I don't really talk like
that, but I'm considering adopting the language.)

Sue, we do have seasons here. They are not as onerous as northern seasons,
but they are defined. And as far as heat goes, we are geared toward it.
Everything is a/c'd. Lots of tiki places on the water for eating and
drinking, if you are so inclined, and there's always a breeze. In the height
of summer we have our afternoon t-storms to cool things off. They last just
long enough to take the edge off. Pools are common, not unusual.

Not for a million bucks would we go back! It's as close to Paradise as one
can get.

Diana

"Gene Schurg" wrote in message
news:SwkEh.1113$QI4.730@trnddc01...
I visit Orlando about every other month. When I get off the plane this
time of the year I ask myself "I don't live here because?"

Let's see ... Housing prices about 1/3 of the cost of DC area. Mild
weather in winter....hot in summer (but I like hot weather).

I'm ready to go. 6 inches of fresh snow this morning. YUK!

Gene



"unknown" wrote in message
...
i just finished reading an article on professional finishing of phals in
commercial greenhouses, and it mentions in passing the considerations of
cost of heating the 'house the further north you go. it got me
wondering how many of you who grow (either commercial or amateur) in the
-ahem- cooler climes have ever considered just picking up and moving
someplace warmer for the sake of the plants? (as soon as i win that
lottery, west palm beach here i come....)

--j_a

Hey I googled real estate in Port St Lucie. I can get a house both on the
river and on the shore... I don't know how that works geographically,
exactly, (translation: Big Bugs) but I get a dock, and a sunset and that's
all I care about... *G*. Now if I just didn't need money I'd be set. My
question is: since one's odds of winning the lottery is the same whether you
buy a ticket or not, then why don't They just enter everyone (that is to say
ME!) in the lottery? Why can't They just hand me money? Like on Star Trek.
Money is a thing of the past and the only thing to strive for is to be the
best person you can be. And to read Plato in the original Greek. [sigh]

Am I a whiney Californian or what? *G*

K Barrett

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
.. .
Um, y'all come on down! That means all y'all! (No, I don't really talk
like that, but I'm considering adopting the language.)

Sue, we do have seasons here. They are not as onerous as northern seasons,
but they are defined. And as far as heat goes, we are geared toward it.
Everything is a/c'd. Lots of tiki places on the water for eating and
drinking, if you are so inclined, and there's always a breeze. In the
height of summer we have our afternoon t-storms to cool things off. They
last just long enough to take the edge off. Pools are common, not unusual.

Not for a million bucks would we go back! It's as close to Paradise as one
can get.

Diana

"Gene Schurg" wrote in message
news:SwkEh.1113$QI4.730@trnddc01...
I visit Orlando about every other month. When I get off the plane this
time of the year I ask myself "I don't live here because?"

Let's see ... Housing prices about 1/3 of the cost of DC area. Mild
weather in winter....hot in summer (but I like hot weather).

I'm ready to go. 6 inches of fresh snow this morning. YUK!

Gene



"unknown" wrote in message
...
i just finished reading an article on professional finishing of phals in
commercial greenhouses, and it mentions in passing the considerations of
cost of heating the 'house the further north you go. it got me
wondering how many of you who grow (either commercial or amateur) in the
-ahem- cooler climes have ever considered just picking up and moving
someplace warmer for the sake of the plants? (as soon as i win that
lottery, west palm beach here i come....)

--j_a

river and on the shore... I don't know how that works geographically,

The *river* is the Indian River, aka the Intracoastal Waterway. There is
also the St. Lucie River, which has lots of tributaries. It gets kind of
confusing. Yes, you can get to one from the other. When you see *river* in
Port St. Lucie real estate ads, they mean the St. Lucie River, because Port
St. Lucie doesn't abut the Intracoastal. This city is quite young, and was
originally built by GDC for retirees, with little houses. Those original
areas are giving way to commercial development, and PSL is not even close to
being a retirement community. We wouldn't have come here if it was. PSL has
been the fastest growing city in the nation. There have been growing pains;
city *leaders* are not big enough people to deal with what PSL is becoming.
They are unsophisticated people with access to tax revenues. Very dangerous
combination. Very upscale housing has come in, we've got a biomed corridor
on the drawing board. A company is coming in from CA (Torrey Pines) and more
will follow.

Compared to CA, PSL is very affordable. But since we moved here in 1999,
housing prices have essentially tripled, except in the old areas. There's a
little slump right now, but it will pick up again. My son lives in Palm
Beach Gardens (40 minutes south) and has a small, older three bedroom, one
bath house with a carport. It's worth about the same as ours, and we have 2K
sf, a canal behind us, a pool, glass everywhere, etc. So this is a good
investment area. Palm Beachers and Miamians cash in and come up here. That
pushes prices up.

Am I a whiney Californian or what? *G*

Absolutely! Very Left Coast! LOL!

Diana

On Feb 25, 4:56 pm, "Diana Kulaga"
wrote:
river and on the shore... I don't know how that works geographically,

The *river* is the Indian River, aka the Intracoastal Waterway. There is
also the St. Lucie River, which has lots of tributaries. It gets kind of
confusing. Yes, you can get to one from the other. When you see *river* in
Port St. Lucie real estate ads, they mean the St. Lucie River, because Port
St. Lucie doesn't abut the Intracoastal. This city is quite young, and was
originally built by GDC for retirees, with little houses. Those original
areas are giving way to commercial development, and PSL is not even close to
being a retirement community. We wouldn't have come here if it was....

Retirement Community-- synonym for the vestibule to the mortuary.

I drove through "The Villages" a while back. Imagine a city populated
exclusively by old farts in golf carts, where the main industires seem
to be cardiology and oncology.

J. Del Col

Retirement Community-- synonym for the vestibule to the mortuary.

God's waiting rooms, for sure. There are gated communities that cater to the
retired. To me, they are so contrived and structured that it would feel like
a prison. They are full, so I guess it's just us. But I think any gated
community would be wrong for us. Frank wonders if they have a community wake
up call. We're probably the people they put up the gates for, LOL!

Diana

On Feb 26, 3:11 pm, "Diana Kulaga"
wrote:
Retirement Community-- synonym for the vestibule to the mortuary.

God's waiting rooms, for sure. There are gated communities that cater to the
retired. To me, they are so contrived and structured that it would feel like
a prison. They are full, so I guess it's just us. ...

My mother will be 86 in April. She lives in Apopka. When she was
deciding what to do after my dad died in 2004 we asked her if she
wanted to move to a retirement community. "Why would I want to live
surrounded by all those old people?" she said. She did move from
Jacksonville to Apopka, to an even bigger house in a neighborhood full
of kids. She has become an avid bird watcher, ever since a bald eagle
perched on her back fence.

J. Del Col

jadel wrote:
On Feb 26, 3:11 pm, "Diana Kulaga"
wrote:

Retirement Community-- synonym for the vestibule to the mortuary.

God's waiting rooms, for sure. There are gated communities that cater to the
retired. To me, they are so contrived and structured that it would feel like
a prison. They are full, so I guess it's just us. ...

I have some older, retired friends who moved from the frozen wastelands
of Ohio into one of those gated communities. When I visited the first
time, I was shocked how HUGE it was; we went for miles after the gate
before reaching their home. It is a beautiful place, a lovely home and
they are very happy there. Caveat: they've never been untra social, so
it doesn't bother them they make no new friends from their neighbors.
They like the quiet and the security. They are both pursuing second
careers in their hobbies and seem quite pleased with their situation.
But their is another side for some people --


My mother will be 86 in April. She lives in Apopka. When she was
deciding what to do after my dad died in 2004 we asked her if she
wanted to move to a retirement community. "Why would I want to live
surrounded by all those old people?"

And that's it. There's a lot to be said for many folks about being in
the midst of life and the hustle and bustle of the daily grind. Keeps
them active and interested, younger in a sense. While I can't say that
when I'm at that stage I'll want to be annoyed by screaming children and
loud neighbors, I've always found the vitality of younger people
infectious, and can't imagine being surrounded only by a bunch of sedate
quiet traditional elderly. I'll still want folks to go dancing and
canoeing and skating and hiking with. I'll find a nice compromise
somewhere there's no winter...and don't worry, Mick, not FL. My friends'
experiences there in Ft.Ladida, Naples, and Titusville the last few
years have soured me on that idea. Now southern CA or the AZ desert, on
the other hand, sound very inviting...

If only there were some way to shield Key West from the
hurricanes...it's so lovely there I could see living there forever -
except for that one tiny problem!

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
.. .
Um, y'all come on down! That means all y'all! (No, I don't really talk
like that, but I'm considering adopting the language.)

Sue, we do have seasons here. They are not as onerous as northern seasons,
but they are defined. And as far as heat goes, we are geared toward it.
Everything is a/c'd. Lots of tiki places on the water for eating and
drinking, if you are so inclined, and there's always a breeze. In the
height of summer we have our afternoon t-storms to cool things off. They
last just long enough to take the edge off. Pools are common, not unusual.

Not for a million bucks would we go back! It's as close to Paradise as one
can get.

Where are you located?


Diana

"Gene Schurg" wrote in message
news:SwkEh.1113$QI4.730@trnddc01...
I visit Orlando about every other month. When I get off the plane this
time of the year I ask myself "I don't live here because?"

Let's see ... Housing prices about 1/3 of the cost of DC area. Mild
weather in winter....hot in summer (but I like hot weather).

I'm ready to go. 6 inches of fresh snow this morning. YUK!

Gene



"unknown" wrote in message
...
i just finished reading an article on professional finishing of phals in
commercial greenhouses, and it mentions in passing the considerations of
cost of heating the 'house the further north you go. it got me
wondering how many of you who grow (either commercial or amateur) in the
-ahem- cooler climes have ever considered just picking up and moving
someplace warmer for the sake of the plants? (as soon as i win that
lottery, west palm beach here i come....)

--j_a

We're in Port St. Lucie, about 40 minutes north of W. Palm Beach.

Diana

"Manelli Family" wrote in message
...

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
.. .
Um, y'all come on down! That means all y'all! (No, I don't really talk
like that, but I'm considering adopting the language.)

Sue, we do have seasons here. They are not as onerous as northern
seasons, but they are defined. And as far as heat goes, we are geared
toward it. Everything is a/c'd. Lots of tiki places on the water for
eating and drinking, if you are so inclined, and there's always a breeze.
In the height of summer we have our afternoon t-storms to cool things
off. They last just long enough to take the edge off. Pools are common,
not unusual.

Not for a million bucks would we go back! It's as close to Paradise as
one can get.

Where are you located?


Diana

"Gene Schurg" wrote in message
news:SwkEh.1113$QI4.730@trnddc01...
I visit Orlando about every other month. When I get off the plane this
time of the year I ask myself "I don't live here because?"

Let's see ... Housing prices about 1/3 of the cost of DC area. Mild
weather in winter....hot in summer (but I like hot weather).

I'm ready to go. 6 inches of fresh snow this morning. YUK!

Gene



"unknown" wrote in message
...
i just finished reading an article on professional finishing of phals in
commercial greenhouses, and it mentions in passing the considerations
of
cost of heating the 'house the further north you go. it got me
wondering how many of you who grow (either commercial or amateur) in
the
-ahem- cooler climes have ever considered just picking up and moving
someplace warmer for the sake of the plants? (as soon as i win that
lottery, west palm beach here i come....)

--j_a