"Steve" wrote in message
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On Jun 30, 9:16 pm, somnial wrote:
Steve wrote:

Feeling cheated,

(by Time Warner)
Steve (in the Adirondacks)

I am currently getting my usenet service via Earthlink on the
identical cable that could deliver Road Runner to me if I wanted it.
I am NOT a television cable customer. I only subscribe to internet
service.
Some time after Earthlink bought out mindspring, they announced that
usenet service was a free service and therefore its elimination in the
future would not be regarded by them as a diminution of service.
I protested that it would be a substantial diminution of service as
far as I was concerned.

A year or two ago, someone on some newsgroup predicted that newsgroups
would be phased out as ISPs slowly dropped that service. I thought to
myself, how could they drop newsgroups when there are thousands of
groups to choose from and there must be millions of people using them?
Well, I guess it is happening. As more ISPs drop the newsgroup
service, others will feel less obligated to provide it themselves and
they will drop it too.
Giganews, EasyNews, and the others will be around as long as they can
make money, but how many people will try newsgroups for the first time
if they have other options and have to pay a separate bill to get into
newsgroups? Google will probably help keep things alive for a long
time, but newsgroups weren't born to be read on a web site. It's like
keeping a species from extinction by keeping it in a zoo (or, to stay
on topic, by keeping it in orchid collections). Maybe we ARE a dying
breed. :-(

Steve

I think there are going to be text groups, but the image groups will go
away. That's usually where the porno comes from....but sheesh. If the
government is going to say ISPs have to be accountable for the content
carried on their bandwidth (read: spreading pornography), then they may as
well shut down the internet because its all pornography. It was
the'information superhighway' for a split second of time and then became,
well, what it is..

Members of the other groups I read have found independent usenet carriers
but they mostly carry text groups, few carry binaries, which is what we want
to see: pictures of sex organs...*plant* sex organs, but sex organs
nonetheless....*G*!

K Barrett

Here's a link to two articles on the dropping of hierarchies. I know people
on the mystery group are going to Germany's motzarella (I think I spelled
that right) but again I'm pretty sure its text only.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967119-38.html

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967004-38.html

K Barrett

No! Motzarella carries alt.binaries.pictures.orchids! Pretty cool!
Here's the link, if it helps anyone out...

http://news.motzarella.org/

K

"K Barrett" wrote in message
. ..
Here's a link to two articles on the dropping of hierarchies. I know
people on the mystery group are going to Germany's motzarella (I think I
spelled that right) but again I'm pretty sure its text only.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967119-38.html

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967004-38.html

K Barrett

On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 08:20:01 -0700 in K Barrett wrote:
No! Motzarella carries alt.binaries.pictures.orchids! Pretty cool!
Here's the link, if it helps anyone out...

http://news.motzarella.org/

motzarella.org didn't initially carry abpo.
I requested they ad it shortly after I started using them.
They warned that they didn't have any real binary feeds, and
content so far agrees with that.
It'll be interesting to see how far Ray's test post propogates out.
It may become use motzarella.org for posting orchid pics.



K

"K Barrett" wrote in message
. ..
Here's a link to two articles on the dropping of hierarchies. I know
people on the mystery group are going to Germany's motzarella (I think I
spelled that right) but again I'm pretty sure its text only.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967119-38.html

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967004-38.html

K Barrett





--
Chris Dukes
"Let all the babies be born. Then let us drown those we do not like."
-- G. K. Chesterton.

On Jul 1, 4:56 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 08:20:01 -0700 in K Barrett wrote:

No! Motzarella carries alt.binaries.pictures.orchids! Pretty cool!
Here's the link, if it helps anyone out...

http://news.motzarella.org/

motzarella.org didn't initially carry abpo.
I requested they ad it shortly after I started using them.
They warned that they didn't have any real binary feeds, and
content so far agrees with that.
It'll be interesting to see how far Ray's test post propogates out.
It may become use motzarella.org for posting orchid pics.





K

"K Barrett" wrote in message
...
Here's a link to two articles on the dropping of hierarchies. I know
people on the mystery group are going to Germany's motzarella (I think I
spelled that right) but again I'm pretty sure its text only.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967119-38.html

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967004-38.html

K Barrett

--
Chris Dukes
"Let all the babies be born. Then let us drown those we do not like."
-- G. K. Chesterton.

This is exciting news for me, so I went right to the site and
registered.
I got registered, got the e-mail with a password. First I tried
changing my old Time Warner account over to this by changing the
server name. etc. That didn't work and I figured it was because it was
sending out the wrong password (it didn't ask for a password).

OK, I should say I that I use Thunderbird for mail and newsgroups. Can
someone tell me what I'm missing? Here's what I did:
I started over making a new account. I assumed there would be a place
to put in the correct user name and password. I was never prompted to
put in a name or password and the new account didn't work either.

[ Hold on, I just thought of one more thing to try and stumbled onto
the answer by pure luck. I'll continue with what I did in case others
need to know.]

Quote from the motzarella web site:
"The following clients are known to need explicit configuration:

* Mozilla Thunderbird

Tools - Account Settings - Server Settings
Always request authentication when connecting to this server "

Of course, I did that before I started to write this message and it
still didn't work.

There are 2 hierarchies available without logging in. My idea was to
look for the answer there before I continued here. I subscribed to one
group that looked promising. It didn't have my answer but...
surprise... it asked for my name and password before I entered. Now
I'm logged in and have subscribed to the 2 orchid newsgroups.

So... as long as the motzarella deal lasts, I'm all set and this will
be my last post using Google.

Steve

I joined the motzarella server - no charge, and I can get both groups with
no issue.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info!


"K Barrett" wrote in message
...
No! Motzarella carries alt.binaries.pictures.orchids! Pretty cool!
Here's the link, if it helps anyone out...

http://news.motzarella.org/

K

"K Barrett" wrote in message
. ..
Here's a link to two articles on the dropping of hierarchies. I know
people on the mystery group are going to Germany's motzarella (I think I
spelled that right) but again I'm pretty sure its text only.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967119-38.html

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967004-38.html

K Barrett

As someone suggested, just keep posting stuff, so the more traffic, the
better.
I've signed up for Motzarella and posted a pic in abpo as a plant in need of
an ID.
Good to read you all again, and boo/hiss to TWC for dropping news access.
Eric

"K Barrett" wrote in message
...
No! Motzarella carries alt.binaries.pictures.orchids! Pretty cool!
Here's the link, if it helps anyone out...

http://news.motzarella.org/

K

"K Barrett" wrote in message
. ..
Here's a link to two articles on the dropping of hierarchies. I know
people on the mystery group are going to Germany's motzarella (I think I
spelled that right) but again I'm pretty sure its text only.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967119-38.html

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967004-38.html

K Barrett

We need more of these guys
http://w2.eff.org/br/

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin