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Hello Again , ABPO ?
Hello Diana
Sorry to be a pain in the ass, but how do you access with the I.P no, i use IE 7/Outlook express Thanks Keith Hi, Keith, Months back, the major ISPs in the States dropped all binaries groups. It's a long story, but the result is that many (most?) of us can no longer access abpo. One of our long time posters, Kye, from Australia, hooked us up again with a new server. The number is 121.208.40.178. There you can subscribe to two newsgroups: orchids (text group) and orchids.pictures. Hope this helps. It was a royal pain for those of us who got shut down. Diana "keith kent" wrote in message ... Hello all , i have not posted for a long time . I know this may have been covered before but cannot find trace .What has happened to abpo i only have 4 posts and none are of orchids it has been like this for a while now , no action . Whats going on ? Regards keith |
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Hello Again , ABPO ?
Hi, Keith,
It had to be explained to me as well. Go to Tools; then Accounts; then News; then Add. From there, follow the directions and enter the number I gave you where it asks for the name of your server. Then you will need to subscribe (free) to the two newsgroups that the server offers. Diana "keith kent" wrote in message ... Hello Diana Sorry to be a pain in the ass, but how do you access with the I.P no, i use IE 7/Outlook express Thanks Keith Hi, Keith, Months back, the major ISPs in the States dropped all binaries groups. It's a long story, but the result is that many (most?) of us can no longer access abpo. One of our long time posters, Kye, from Australia, hooked us up again with a new server. The number is 121.208.40.178. There you can subscribe to two newsgroups: orchids (text group) and orchids.pictures. Hope this helps. It was a royal pain for those of us who got shut down. Diana "keith kent" wrote in message ... Hello all , i have not posted for a long time . I know this may have been covered before but cannot find trace .What has happened to abpo i only have 4 posts and none are of orchids it has been like this for a while now , no action . Whats going on ? Regards keith |
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Hello Again , ABPO ?
On Feb 5, 5:10*pm, "Diana Kulaga"
wrote: Hi, Keith, It had to be explained to me as well. Go to Tools; then Accounts; then News; then Add. From there, follow the directions and enter the number I gave you where it asks for the name of your server. Then you will need to subscribe (free) to the two newsgroups that the server offers. Diana "keith kent" wrote in message ... Hello Diana Sorry to be a pain in the ass, but how do you access with the I.P no, i use IE 7/Outlook express Thanks Keith Hi, Keith, Months back, the major ISPs in the States dropped all binaries groups. It's a long story, but the result is that many (most?) of us can no longer access abpo. One of our long time posters, Kye, from Australia, hooked us up again with a new server. The number is 121.208.40.178. There you can subscribe to two newsgroups: orchids (text group) and orchids.pictures. Hope this helps. It was a royal pain for those of us who got shut down.. Diana "keith kent" wrote in message ... Hello all , i have not posted for a long time . I know this may have been covered before but cannot find trace .What has happened to abpo i only have 4 posts and none are of orchids *it has been like this for a while now , no action . Whats going on ? Regards keith I don't use a newsreader. Is there a web browser based interface for it? If not, what would be involved in creating one? Ted |
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Hello Again , ABPO ?
I don't know, Ted. What I do know is that Kye created this server, and you
can't find it unless you have the server number. That will someday change, but that's how it is right now. Someone with more tech savvy than I perhaps will answer. You might want to open a new thread with that question. That way, someone in the know may see it. Diana "Ted Byers" wrote in message ... On Feb 5, 5:10 pm, "Diana Kulaga" wrote: Hi, Keith, It had to be explained to me as well. Go to Tools; then Accounts; then News; then Add. From there, follow the directions and enter the number I gave you where it asks for the name of your server. Then you will need to subscribe (free) to the two newsgroups that the server offers. Diana "keith kent" wrote in message ... Hello Diana Sorry to be a pain in the ass, but how do you access with the I.P no, i use IE 7/Outlook express Thanks Keith Hi, Keith, Months back, the major ISPs in the States dropped all binaries groups. It's a long story, but the result is that many (most?) of us can no longer access abpo. One of our long time posters, Kye, from Australia, hooked us up again with a new server. The number is 121.208.40.178. There you can subscribe to two newsgroups: orchids (text group) and orchids.pictures. Hope this helps. It was a royal pain for those of us who got shut down. Diana "keith kent" wrote in message ... Hello all , i have not posted for a long time . I know this may have been covered before but cannot find trace .What has happened to abpo i only have 4 posts and none are of orchids it has been like this for a while now , no action . Whats going on ? Regards keith I don't use a newsreader. Is there a web browser based interface for it? If not, what would be involved in creating one? Ted |
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Hello Again , ABPO ?
Outlook Express has "a newsreader". Diana's instructions below are all
that's needed with Outlook Express. Just open your Outlook Express screen, click on "Tools" at the top of the screen, and follow Diana's instructions. Feel free to ask further if you still get stuck. Chuck B. "Ted Byers" wrote in message ... On Feb 5, 5:10 pm, "Diana Kulaga" wrote: Hi, Keith, It had to be explained to me as well. Go to Tools; then Accounts; then News; then Add. From there, follow the directions and enter the number I gave you where it asks for the name of your server. Then you will need to subscribe (free) to the two newsgroups that the server offers. Diana "keith kent" wrote in message ... Hello Diana Sorry to be a pain in the ass, but how do you access with the I.P no, i use IE 7/Outlook express Thanks Keith Hi, Keith, Months back, the major ISPs in the States dropped all binaries groups. It's a long story, but the result is that many (most?) of us can no longer access abpo. One of our long time posters, Kye, from Australia, hooked us up again with a new server. The number is 121.208.40.178. There you can subscribe to two newsgroups: orchids (text group) and orchids.pictures. Hope this helps. It was a royal pain for those of us who got shut down. Diana "keith kent" wrote in message ... Hello all , i have not posted for a long time . I know this may have been covered before but cannot find trace .What has happened to abpo i only have 4 posts and none are of orchids it has been like this for a while now , no action . Whats going on ? Regards keith I don't use a newsreader. Is there a web browser based interface for it? If not, what would be involved in creating one? Ted |
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Hello Again , ABPO ?
On Feb 5, 8:38*pm, "C. Berlin" wrote:
Outlook Express has "a newsreader". *Diana's instructions below are all that's needed with Outlook Express. *Just open your Outlook Express screen, click on "Tools" at the top of the screen, and follow Diana's instructions. Feel free to ask further if you still get stuck. Chuck B. It isn't a question of being stuck. I have years of experience using Outlook Express. I just hate it because of the extent it wastes resources such as hard disk space, and it's interface leaves much to be desired. A web interface is preferable (if well designed) since the data remains on the host, always viewable, and consumes minimal resources on the client machines. Web technologies are just more flexible that nntp allows. Ted |
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Hello Again , ABPO ?
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 07:29:59 -0800 (PST) in Ted Byers wrote:
It isn't a question of being stuck. I have years of experience using Outlook Express. I just hate it because of the extent it wastes resources such as hard disk space, and it's interface leaves much to be desired. A web interface is preferable (if well designed) since the data remains on the host, always viewable, and consumes minimal resources on the client machines. Web technologies are just more flexible that nntp allows. Outlook is a festering pile of feces, and always has been. OTOH, an NNTP client need not be more than netcat and a pad of paper to track last read articles... And while most NNTP servers are configured to discard articles after a period of time or quantity of storage space, they don't have to be configured that way. A single web host has the disadvantage that it can be shut down and lost with one warrant or lawsuit. Granted, things have gotten better, we're back to normally having web pages where I can click on a specific blog entry and get a URL I can send to someone else and 1) it'll work 2) It's human readable and less than 80 characters long.... But it's a UI nightmare to shuffle between live journal, various software blogs, launchpad.... And maintaining state about what's read and unread and what was marked as unread so it could be reread, is pretty much non-existant. Plus I'm horribly biased from 11 years of dealing with incompetent websphere developers mixed with cargo cult PHP developers and my normal inspiration being to go build a raised bed instead of writing something that sucks less :-). -- Chris Dukes davej eskimos have hundreds of words for snow. I have two. Bullshit. |
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Hello Again , ABPO ?
On Feb 6, 11:30*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 07:29:59 -0800 (PST) in Ted Byers *wrote: Granted, things have gotten better, we're back to normally having web pages where I can click on a specific blog entry and get a URL I can send to someone else and 1) it'll work 2) It's human readable and less than 80 characters long.... But it's a UI nightmare to shuffle between live journal, various software blogs, launchpad.... *And maintaining state about what's read and unread and what was marked as unread so it could be reread, is pretty much non-existant. Tell me about it. I have to handle such nightmares when designing web based user interfaces that the end user would find both useful and friendly. BTW: maintaining such state is not hard to handle IF one creates an effective subscription interface (using a design pattern similar to what is required for the combination of security and user friendliness that requires single logon for multiple applications with unique permissions requirements for different categories of users); but creating it requires a software engineer who knows what he's doing and finding one of these is itself a nightmare. Plus I'm horribly biased from 11 years of dealing with incompetent websphere developers mixed with cargo cult PHP developers and my normal inspiration being to go build a raised bed instead of writing something that sucks less :-). Don't forget the cult Ruby developers and cult Javascript developers and, the worst of the lot, VB developers. ;-) I no longer get upset with the hordes of incompetent developers out there. Instad I seek to endure what I can't change, change what I can, and especially seek the wisdom to know the difference. What passes for a curriculum for software engineers these days at a lot of colleagues is a disgrace. It is annoying that such folks damage the market for custom software by their routine failure to deliver good quality software, but there isn't much one can do about it. And I see poor quality software everywhere I go. I'll stop here as this gets rather depressing ... Cheers Ted |
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