Jungle FeedThanks for your input Ray .
Regards Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:000001ca2683$04875630$0201a8c0@fro...
With the "rain water" formula, I believe the plants will get all they need from the fertilizer, so would not bother adding it to the flush water.



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From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:05 PM
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Subject: Jungle Feed



I mainly use bark mix ,i am trying a husk mix on some Massies .So my 4th watering will be water only .

As i am using RO i have still been adding Cal & Mg and adjusting the ph when using water only ,would you say this is good practice ?.

Or not neccessary ?

Regards Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:000001ca2574$8e7f4560$0201a8c0@fro...

That's what I do.



Let me add that if you're growing in "normal" culture (organic media components), I would feed for 3 out of 4 waterings, water only the 4th time.



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From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Sunday, August 23, 2009 5:11 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
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Subject: Jungle Feed



Oh, ok Ray .

So going for 0.75 with that feed is o.k ?

Would it also be best to feed at every watering at this rate .?

Keith



Ray B" wrote in message news:000401ca2391$2f55e970$0201a8c0@fro...

Don't forget that the calculator you used is giving the calculated solids loading of nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium only, without regard to the other minerals in the fertilizer.



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From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Saturday, August 22, 2009 3:19 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
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Subject: Jungle Feed



Hi Ray ,i have just used your online ppm calculator and inputted 13-3-15 at 0.75 teaspoon a gallon came out at

129n -p 13 -k 123 total TDS 265 ppm

This seems low to me as i would normally aim for around 400-450ppm at the most in summer then reduce to around 250 in winter.

i feed 3 weeks .once a month i use plain RO with added Cal ,mg at this time i would also use the plain RO to add Physan for the monthly treatment .

Regards Keith





wrote in message news:000001ca233b$67e51730$0201a8c0@fro...

Keith,

Unless you're growing stuff like Den. nobile, that needs a "winter rest" - i.e., no nitrogen whatsoever - I find it advantageous to feed year round.

In fact, all of my plants get 125 ppm N (about twice the concentration Kenneth uses) at every watering.

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-----Original Message-----
From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Friday, August 21, 2009 5:00 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

So that is around 350 ppm ,do you feed at this rate all year round or reduce
.
Obviously in winter watering is reduced for most plants so will get feed
less frequently .
Kenneth ,can you confirm that the 2.5 kg rain mix will be for sale at the
Boga show as i am traveling some distance so don`t want to be disapointed if
it is not .
Regards Keith
"Kenneth" wrote in message
...
Small, but very important correction.

I meant to say that we add fertilizer to reach conductivity of 550 µS,
not 550ppm....



Kenneth.

Jungle FeedHi Ray ,i now have my 13-3-15 MSU feed ,i have been using your conversions etc and know i need 0.75 teaspoon per gallon to get 125 N, with all the other nutrients added what total ppm should i end with in RO.So it gives me an idea of where it should be .I know with TDS meters this cannot be that accurate but if you could give me an idea what you get would be good .
Sorry to be a pain in the neck ,but i want to get it right now i know i have the right feed that i have been looking for for along time !
one more question , what else is in the feed ? as all the % of all the elements doesn`t add to 100 % or am i missing something ?
Cheers Keith


h kent" wrote in message ...
Thanks for your input Ray .
Regards Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:000001ca2683$04875630$0201a8c0@fro...
With the "rain water" formula, I believe the plants will get all they need from the fertilizer, so would not bother adding it to the flush water.



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From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:05 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



I mainly use bark mix ,i am trying a husk mix on some Massies .So my 4th watering will be water only .

As i am using RO i have still been adding Cal & Mg and adjusting the ph when using water only ,would you say this is good practice ?.

Or not neccessary ?

Regards Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:000001ca2574$8e7f4560$0201a8c0@fro...

That's what I do.



Let me add that if you're growing in "normal" culture (organic media components), I would feed for 3 out of 4 waterings, water only the 4th time.



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From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Sunday, August 23, 2009 5:11 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



Oh, ok Ray .

So going for 0.75 with that feed is o.k ?

Would it also be best to feed at every watering at this rate .?

Keith



Ray B" wrote in message news:000401ca2391$2f55e970$0201a8c0@fro...

Don't forget that the calculator you used is giving the calculated solids loading of nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium only, without regard to the other minerals in the fertilizer.



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From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Saturday, August 22, 2009 3:19 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



Hi Ray ,i have just used your online ppm calculator and inputted 13-3-15 at 0.75 teaspoon a gallon came out at

129n -p 13 -k 123 total TDS 265 ppm

This seems low to me as i would normally aim for around 400-450ppm at the most in summer then reduce to around 250 in winter.

i feed 3 weeks .once a month i use plain RO with added Cal ,mg at this time i would also use the plain RO to add Physan for the monthly treatment .

Regards Keith





wrote in message news:000001ca233b$67e51730$0201a8c0@fro...

Keith,

Unless you're growing stuff like Den. nobile, that needs a "winter rest" - i.e., no nitrogen whatsoever - I find it advantageous to feed year round.

In fact, all of my plants get 125 ppm N (about twice the concentration Kenneth uses) at every watering.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com
Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books
Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



-----Original Message-----
From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Friday, August 21, 2009 5:00 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

So that is around 350 ppm ,do you feed at this rate all year round or reduce
.
Obviously in winter watering is reduced for most plants so will get feed
less frequently .
Kenneth ,can you confirm that the 2.5 kg rain mix will be for sale at the
Boga show as i am traveling some distance so don`t want to be disapointed if
it is not .
Regards Keith
"Kenneth" wrote in message
...
Small, but very important correction.

I meant to say that we add fertilizer to reach conductivity of 550 µS,
not 550ppm....



Kenneth.