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Old 28-02-2004, 09:35 PM
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The Press Enterprise article (2/28/04) -- Plant Food Makes Massive
Impression -- cites a new product --MegaGro, containing Gibberellic
acid.

Has anyone used this product on orchids?

.. . . Pam
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Old 28-02-2004, 10:03 PM
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Quick Google search produced the following, from the MegaGrow web site:
http://www.mymegagro.com/index.cfm?srccd=g012

"MegaGro is used commercially to produce various effects in orchids. Care
should be taken since MegaGro can cause stem elongation, and may weaken the
plant stem. Like most flowers, orchids will respond well to MegaGro spray
treatments to produce bigger blooms and increase inflorescence production.
Certain research, although inconclusive at this point, suggests that MegaGro
may aid in triggering off-season spiking and differentiation in the
flowering stem."

Sounds like something a grower might use to force out of season blooming to
coincide with show seasons, etc. Guess I'll stick to DynaGro and/or
Peter's. Interesting, though.

Diana


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Old 28-02-2004, 10:13 PM
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Quick Google search produced the following, from the MegaGrow web site:
http://www.mymegagro.com/index.cfm?srccd=g012

"MegaGro is used commercially to produce various effects in orchids. Care
should be taken since MegaGro can cause stem elongation, and may weaken the
plant stem. Like most flowers, orchids will respond well to MegaGro spray
treatments to produce bigger blooms and increase inflorescence production.
Certain research, although inconclusive at this point, suggests that MegaGro
may aid in triggering off-season spiking and differentiation in the
flowering stem."

Sounds like something a grower might use to force out of season blooming to
coincide with show seasons, etc. Guess I'll stick to DynaGro and/or
Peter's. Interesting, though.

Diana


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Old 28-02-2004, 10:18 PM
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Quick Google search produced the following, from the MegaGrow web site:
http://www.mymegagro.com/index.cfm?srccd=g012

"MegaGro is used commercially to produce various effects in orchids. Care
should be taken since MegaGro can cause stem elongation, and may weaken the
plant stem. Like most flowers, orchids will respond well to MegaGro spray
treatments to produce bigger blooms and increase inflorescence production.
Certain research, although inconclusive at this point, suggests that MegaGro
may aid in triggering off-season spiking and differentiation in the
flowering stem."

Sounds like something a grower might use to force out of season blooming to
coincide with show seasons, etc. Guess I'll stick to DynaGro and/or
Peter's. Interesting, though.

Diana


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Old 28-02-2004, 10:36 PM
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I'd have to read my handbook, but I *think* gibberillic acid is one of the
few things proscribed inthe Handbook on orchid judging. Its use to enhance
blooms will toss you plant out of competition. How they'd know I have no
idea....

K Barrett

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
news
Quick Google search produced the following, from the MegaGrow web site:
http://www.mymegagro.com/index.cfm?srccd=g012

"MegaGro is used commercially to produce various effects in orchids. Care
should be taken since MegaGro can cause stem elongation, and may weaken
the
plant stem. Like most flowers, orchids will respond well to MegaGro spray
treatments to produce bigger blooms and increase inflorescence production.
Certain research, although inconclusive at this point, suggests that

MegaGro
may aid in triggering off-season spiking and differentiation in the
flowering stem."

Sounds like something a grower might use to force out of season blooming

to
coincide with show seasons, etc. Guess I'll stick to DynaGro and/or
Peter's. Interesting, though.

Diana






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Old 28-02-2004, 10:51 PM
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I'd have to read my handbook, but I *think* gibberillic acid is one of the
few things proscribed inthe Handbook on orchid judging. Its use to enhance
blooms will toss you plant out of competition. How they'd know I have no
idea....

K Barrett

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
news
Quick Google search produced the following, from the MegaGrow web site:
http://www.mymegagro.com/index.cfm?srccd=g012

"MegaGro is used commercially to produce various effects in orchids. Care
should be taken since MegaGro can cause stem elongation, and may weaken
the
plant stem. Like most flowers, orchids will respond well to MegaGro spray
treatments to produce bigger blooms and increase inflorescence production.
Certain research, although inconclusive at this point, suggests that

MegaGro
may aid in triggering off-season spiking and differentiation in the
flowering stem."

Sounds like something a grower might use to force out of season blooming

to
coincide with show seasons, etc. Guess I'll stick to DynaGro and/or
Peter's. Interesting, though.

Diana




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Old 29-02-2004, 06:05 AM
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Thanks for the feedback, K and Diane. Although the article says,
"MegaGro contains Gibberellic acid, a naturaly occurring plant hormone
that stimulates cell growth" but it also says that "...The acid can help
with cell elongation and increase the number of cells"; therefore,I can
see where the AOS judging committee may be opposed to its use as this is
tampering with Mother Nature. (Wish I could provide a link to the
article; however, the newspaper's website does not feature this one --
http://www.pe.com). In addition, the writer states: "Individuals
flirting with the idea of using a Gibberellic acid product should be
mindful that it is a near-science", and she concludes with the
following: "If you do purchase a product, spray only some parts of the
plant. . .That way you can monitor whether the product really had an
effect."

Before reading the article, I had never heard of Gibberellic acid and
found the information very interesting. Should I ever purchase MegaGro,
I may try spraying it on a few leaves of plants that are expendable
and/or never bloom.

Quotes were from The Press-Enterprise (Saturday, February 28, 2004) Home
and Garden section --"Plant Food Makes Massive Impression" by Kimberly
Prendergast.

.. . . Pam
Everything Orchid Management System
http://www.pe.net/~profpam/page3.html

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profpam wrote:

The Press Enterprise article (2/28/04) -- Plant Food Makes Massive
Impression -- cites a new product --MegaGro, containing Gibberellic
acid.

Has anyone used this product on orchids?

. . . Pam
Everything Orchid Management System
http://www.pe.net/~profpam/page3.html

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Old 29-02-2004, 11:02 AM
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I found some links on Gibberellic acid.
http://baecklund.no-ip.org/webserver/


Mattias


"profpam" skrev i meddelandet
...
Thanks for the feedback, K and Diane. Although the article says,
"MegaGro contains Gibberellic acid, a naturaly occurring plant hormone
that stimulates cell growth" but it also says that "...The acid can help
with cell elongation and increase the number of cells"; therefore,I can
see where the AOS judging committee may be opposed to its use as this is
tampering with Mother Nature. (Wish I could provide a link to the
article; however, the newspaper's website does not feature this one --
http://www.pe.com). In addition, the writer states: "Individuals
flirting with the idea of using a Gibberellic acid product should be
mindful that it is a near-science", and she concludes with the
following: "If you do purchase a product, spray only some parts of the
plant. . .That way you can monitor whether the product really had an
effect."

Before reading the article, I had never heard of Gibberellic acid and
found the information very interesting. Should I ever purchase MegaGro,
I may try spraying it on a few leaves of plants that are expendable
and/or never bloom.

Quotes were from The Press-Enterprise (Saturday, February 28, 2004) Home
and Garden section --"Plant Food Makes Massive Impression" by Kimberly
Prendergast.

. . . Pam
Everything Orchid Management System
http://www.pe.net/~profpam/page3.html

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profpam wrote:

The Press Enterprise article (2/28/04) -- Plant Food Makes Massive
Impression -- cites a new product --MegaGro, containing Gibberellic
acid.

Has anyone used this product on orchids?

. . . Pam
Everything Orchid Management System
http://www.pe.net/~profpam/page3.html



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Old 29-02-2004, 06:02 PM
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I didn't know AOS judging had a drug test list. I would love to know what
else is on the list. Gibberillic acid is one of the standard chemicals used
in the cloning process, but I assume that use does not count. It would be
pretty funny if gibberillic acid is on the list, but NAA (another cloning
hormone and component of Superthrive) is not. I guess it would be funnier
if NAA was on the list.

Pat


"K Barrett" wrote in message
news:Kv80c.142417$jk2.570671@attbi_s53...
I'd have to read my handbook, but I *think* gibberillic acid is one of the
few things proscribed inthe Handbook on orchid judging. Its use to

enhance
blooms will toss you plant out of competition. How they'd know I have no
idea....

K Barrett

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
news
Quick Google search produced the following, from the MegaGrow web site:
http://www.mymegagro.com/index.cfm?srccd=g012

"MegaGro is used commercially to produce various effects in orchids.

Care
should be taken since MegaGro can cause stem elongation, and may weaken

the
plant stem. Like most flowers, orchids will respond well to MegaGro

spray
treatments to produce bigger blooms and increase inflorescence

production.
Certain research, although inconclusive at this point, suggests that

MegaGro
may aid in triggering off-season spiking and differentiation in the
flowering stem."

Sounds like something a grower might use to force out of season blooming

to
coincide with show seasons, etc. Guess I'll stick to DynaGro and/or
Peter's. Interesting, though.

Diana






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Old 29-02-2004, 06:29 PM
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I didn't know AOS judging had a drug test list. I would love to know what
else is on the list. Gibberillic acid is one of the standard chemicals used
in the cloning process, but I assume that use does not count. It would be
pretty funny if gibberillic acid is on the list, but NAA (another cloning
hormone and component of Superthrive) is not. I guess it would be funnier
if NAA was on the list.

Pat


"K Barrett" wrote in message
news:Kv80c.142417$jk2.570671@attbi_s53...
I'd have to read my handbook, but I *think* gibberillic acid is one of the
few things proscribed inthe Handbook on orchid judging. Its use to

enhance
blooms will toss you plant out of competition. How they'd know I have no
idea....

K Barrett

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
news
Quick Google search produced the following, from the MegaGrow web site:
http://www.mymegagro.com/index.cfm?srccd=g012

"MegaGro is used commercially to produce various effects in orchids.

Care
should be taken since MegaGro can cause stem elongation, and may weaken

the
plant stem. Like most flowers, orchids will respond well to MegaGro

spray
treatments to produce bigger blooms and increase inflorescence

production.
Certain research, although inconclusive at this point, suggests that

MegaGro
may aid in triggering off-season spiking and differentiation in the
flowering stem."

Sounds like something a grower might use to force out of season blooming

to
coincide with show seasons, etc. Guess I'll stick to DynaGro and/or
Peter's. Interesting, though.

Diana








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Old 29-02-2004, 06:42 PM
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I didn't know AOS judging had a drug test list. I would love to know what
else is on the list. Gibberillic acid is one of the standard chemicals used
in the cloning process, but I assume that use does not count. It would be
pretty funny if gibberillic acid is on the list, but NAA (another cloning
hormone and component of Superthrive) is not. I guess it would be funnier
if NAA was on the list.

Pat


"K Barrett" wrote in message
news:Kv80c.142417$jk2.570671@attbi_s53...
I'd have to read my handbook, but I *think* gibberillic acid is one of the
few things proscribed inthe Handbook on orchid judging. Its use to

enhance
blooms will toss you plant out of competition. How they'd know I have no
idea....

K Barrett

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
news
Quick Google search produced the following, from the MegaGrow web site:
http://www.mymegagro.com/index.cfm?srccd=g012

"MegaGro is used commercially to produce various effects in orchids.

Care
should be taken since MegaGro can cause stem elongation, and may weaken

the
plant stem. Like most flowers, orchids will respond well to MegaGro

spray
treatments to produce bigger blooms and increase inflorescence

production.
Certain research, although inconclusive at this point, suggests that

MegaGro
may aid in triggering off-season spiking and differentiation in the
flowering stem."

Sounds like something a grower might use to force out of season blooming

to
coincide with show seasons, etc. Guess I'll stick to DynaGro and/or
Peter's. Interesting, though.

Diana






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Old 29-02-2004, 06:49 PM
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I didn't know AOS judging had a drug test list. I would love to know what
else is on the list. Gibberillic acid is one of the standard chemicals used
in the cloning process, but I assume that use does not count. It would be
pretty funny if gibberillic acid is on the list, but NAA (another cloning
hormone and component of Superthrive) is not. I guess it would be funnier
if NAA was on the list.

Pat


"K Barrett" wrote in message
news:Kv80c.142417$jk2.570671@attbi_s53...
I'd have to read my handbook, but I *think* gibberillic acid is one of the
few things proscribed inthe Handbook on orchid judging. Its use to

enhance
blooms will toss you plant out of competition. How they'd know I have no
idea....

K Barrett

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
news
Quick Google search produced the following, from the MegaGrow web site:
http://www.mymegagro.com/index.cfm?srccd=g012

"MegaGro is used commercially to produce various effects in orchids.

Care
should be taken since MegaGro can cause stem elongation, and may weaken

the
plant stem. Like most flowers, orchids will respond well to MegaGro

spray
treatments to produce bigger blooms and increase inflorescence

production.
Certain research, although inconclusive at this point, suggests that

MegaGro
may aid in triggering off-season spiking and differentiation in the
flowering stem."

Sounds like something a grower might use to force out of season blooming

to
coincide with show seasons, etc. Guess I'll stick to DynaGro and/or
Peter's. Interesting, though.

Diana






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Like I say, if you read my post completely I said I wasn't sure about it. I
just seem to recall that gibberillic acid painted on flowers was verboten.
Manipulation. Of course that begs the question about PROOF. How ya gonna
prove something like that? I have no idea. And, IMHO, it would be
actionable if the charge was made and not substantiated. Also colchicine is
used to increase ploidy which in turn affects bloom size and quality, yet
that isn't mentioned in terms of manipulation either. All a grey area, a
gentleman's agreement, or one similar to the Supreme Court's take on
pornography, they know it when they see it, yet either can't/won't define
it.

K Barrett

"Pat Brennan" wrote in message
...
I didn't know AOS judging had a drug test list. I would love to know what
else is on the list. Gibberillic acid is one of the standard chemicals

used
in the cloning process, but I assume that use does not count. It would be
pretty funny if gibberillic acid is on the list, but NAA (another cloning
hormone and component of Superthrive) is not. I guess it would be funnier
if NAA was on the list.

Pat


"K Barrett" wrote in message
news:Kv80c.142417$jk2.570671@attbi_s53...
I'd have to read my handbook, but I *think* gibberillic acid is one of

the
few things proscribed inthe Handbook on orchid judging. Its use to

enhance
blooms will toss you plant out of competition. How they'd know I have

no
idea....

K Barrett

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
news
Quick Google search produced the following, from the MegaGrow web

site:
http://www.mymegagro.com/index.cfm?srccd=g012

"MegaGro is used commercially to produce various effects in orchids.

Care
should be taken since MegaGro can cause stem elongation, and may

weaken
the
plant stem. Like most flowers, orchids will respond well to MegaGro

spray
treatments to produce bigger blooms and increase inflorescence

production.
Certain research, although inconclusive at this point, suggests that

MegaGro
may aid in triggering off-season spiking and differentiation in the
flowering stem."

Sounds like something a grower might use to force out of season

blooming
to
coincide with show seasons, etc. Guess I'll stick to DynaGro and/or
Peter's. Interesting, though.

Diana








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On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 13:33:05 -0800, profpam wrote in
Message-Id: :

The Press Enterprise article (2/28/04) -- Plant Food Makes Massive
Impression -- cites a new product --MegaGro, containing Gibberellic
acid.

Has anyone used this product on orchids?


I haven't tried it yet, but here's some information and an inexpensive
source for Gibberellic Acid-3:
http://www.crfg.org/tidbits/gibberellic.html

http://www.jlhudsonseeds.net/GibberellicAcid.htm
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Old 22-03-2004, 09:35 PM
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Larry Dighera wrote:

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 13:33:05 -0800, profpam wrote in
Message-Id: :



The Press Enterprise article (2/28/04) -- Plant Food Makes Massive
Impression -- cites a new product --MegaGro, containing Gibberellic
acid.

Has anyone used this product on orchids?



I haven't tried it yet, but here's some information and an inexpensive
source for Gibberellic Acid-3:
http://www.crfg.org/tidbits/gibberellic.html

http://www.jlhudsonseeds.net/GibberellicAcid.htm



This comes up every so often, actually. However, being an 'old
fuddy-duddy' (technical term) myself, I'd probably avoid it. Jim Brasch
(http://www.orchidmall.com/hormones/) probably knows more than anybody I
know. He'd be my choice to answer a few questions.

Anyway, cytokines work differently in different tissues, and the
results can be different between genera, as well. So I wouldn't
generalize too much. Also, you may force flowering or growth, but is
that necessarily a good thing? If the plant isn't ready, you can bloom
it to death. That may work for the potted plant trade, but I'd wager
that you are more interested in keeping a specimen around for a while.
That isn't meant to discourage experimentation (go for it), but you
might want to experiment on some plants that you don't have a particular
attachment to. You may get excellent results, and if you do I'm sure a
lot of people would be interesting in hearing about it.

--
Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) Sure beats working...
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