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A repost of a link that was posted to Orchid Spring Discussion Board.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...al/8118304.htm] -M |
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Glad they busted his A$$....
Dave On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 21:50:56 GMT, "GrlIntrpted" wrote: A repost of a link that was posted to Orchid Spring Discussion Board. http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...al/8118304.htm] -M |
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That seems a little harsh. Do I detect a personal bone to pick?
-- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! .. . . . . . . . . . . "David Fouchey" wrote in message ... Glad they busted his A$$.... Dave On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 21:50:56 GMT, "GrlIntrpted" wrote: A repost of a link that was posted to Orchid Spring Discussion Board. http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...al/8118304.htm] -M |
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That seems a little harsh. Do I detect a personal bone to pick?
-- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! .. . . . . . . . . . . "David Fouchey" wrote in message ... Glad they busted his A$$.... Dave On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 21:50:56 GMT, "GrlIntrpted" wrote: A repost of a link that was posted to Orchid Spring Discussion Board. http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...al/8118304.htm] -M |
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 21:33:38 -0500, "Ray"
wrote: That seems a little harsh. Do I detect a personal bone to pick? Just a touch, had a nice group of cow horn orchids on a piece of property that I enjoyed watching for years (South Floorida), until some sob came in at night and cleaned out the whole lot of them....I have no patience for unscrupulous wild collectors. Get permission, sample some and make clones whatever but don't strip mine an entire colony.... Rant Mode Off Ray... Dave |
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 21:33:38 -0500, "Ray"
wrote: That seems a little harsh. Do I detect a personal bone to pick? Just a touch, had a nice group of cow horn orchids on a piece of property that I enjoyed watching for years (South Floorida), until some sob came in at night and cleaned out the whole lot of them....I have no patience for unscrupulous wild collectors. Get permission, sample some and make clones whatever but don't strip mine an entire colony.... Rant Mode Off Ray... Dave |
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I'm not suprised about the comment that Miami is lax. I think some other entry
points are as well. A few years ago we bought some plants from a grower in CT. When we were going through the greenhouse we spotted some nice looking but newly imported plants. It was obvious that although they were labled 'huntlea' that they were indeed 'phrags'. The person who was waiting on us would only let us have three pots and charged us $35 each for the plants with multiple growths. It turned out, just as we thought, when they bloomed, they were Phrag. caudatum's and very nice examples as well. |
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I fully understand how having your place robbed would **** you off!
I had some Cyps growing in my yard here in PA that did the same kind of walkabout. I still wonder where they go the shovels to dig themselves up. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! .. . . . . . . . . . . "David Fouchey" wrote in message ... On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 21:33:38 -0500, "Ray" wrote: That seems a little harsh. Do I detect a personal bone to pick? Just a touch, had a nice group of cow horn orchids on a piece of property that I enjoyed watching for years (South Floorida), until some sob came in at night and cleaned out the whole lot of them....I have no patience for unscrupulous wild collectors. Get permission, sample some and make clones whatever but don't strip mine an entire colony.... Rant Mode Off Ray... Dave |
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tennis maynard writes:
plant police and law enforcement in general. Almost every day, I read about deliberate obstruction of justice, mal- and mis- feasance as well as downright theft, murder, assault and other abuse by members of our law enforcement agencies (including prosecutors, judges, and the FBI). They no longer deserve any of the trust previously reposed in them, and I am far more likely to believe anyone on the wrong side of them is on the right side of the law. rant I cannot believe anyone goes into rant mode because someone in a place of power is found out. It looks like - and this is what gives me the willies - you would actually prefer that these guys were not found out, and that this would make you trust these people more. To me, it looks like you want a system that doesn't catch these people - who will always be attracted to positions of power - just so you could have some peace of mind. Hear no evil, see no evil... I hope you didn't actually mean what you said. /rant Geir |
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"Ray" writes:
I fully understand how having your place robbed would **** you off! I had some Cyps growing in my yard here in PA that did the same kind of walkabout. I still wonder where they go the shovels to dig themselves up. Same problem all over the world, I would expect. The flowers on my fathers grave goes missing about once a year. I can only hope I find these jokers at some time. It would be interesting hearing them explain why they need to steal plants off a grave. Geir |
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But Geir. You're assuming that the charges are valid in the first place. I
agree with Tennis that the "innocent until proven guilty" theorem is being badly trodden in this country under George II and his cronies, or should I say "puppeteers." -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! .. . . . . . . . . . . "Geir Harris Hedemark" wrote in message ... tennis maynard writes: plant police and law enforcement in general. Almost every day, I read about deliberate obstruction of justice, mal- and mis- feasance as well as downright theft, murder, assault and other abuse by members of our law enforcement agencies (including prosecutors, judges, and the FBI). They no longer deserve any of the trust previously reposed in them, and I am far more likely to believe anyone on the wrong side of them is on the right side of the law. rant I cannot believe anyone goes into rant mode because someone in a place of power is found out. It looks like - and this is what gives me the willies - you would actually prefer that these guys were not found out, and that this would make you trust these people more. To me, it looks like you want a system that doesn't catch these people - who will always be attracted to positions of power - just so you could have some peace of mind. Hear no evil, see no evil... I hope you didn't actually mean what you said. /rant Geir |
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But Geir. You're assuming that the charges are valid in the first place. I
agree with Tennis that the "innocent until proven guilty" theorem is being badly trodden in this country under George II and his cronies, or should I say "puppeteers." -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! .. . . . . . . . . . . "Geir Harris Hedemark" wrote in message ... tennis maynard writes: plant police and law enforcement in general. Almost every day, I read about deliberate obstruction of justice, mal- and mis- feasance as well as downright theft, murder, assault and other abuse by members of our law enforcement agencies (including prosecutors, judges, and the FBI). They no longer deserve any of the trust previously reposed in them, and I am far more likely to believe anyone on the wrong side of them is on the right side of the law. rant I cannot believe anyone goes into rant mode because someone in a place of power is found out. It looks like - and this is what gives me the willies - you would actually prefer that these guys were not found out, and that this would make you trust these people more. To me, it looks like you want a system that doesn't catch these people - who will always be attracted to positions of power - just so you could have some peace of mind. Hear no evil, see no evil... I hope you didn't actually mean what you said. /rant Geir |
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"Ray" writes:
But Geir. You're assuming that the charges are valid in the first place. I agree with Tennis that the "innocent until proven guilty" theorem is being badly trodden in this country under George II and his cronies, or should I say "puppeteers." When someone says they have read about obstruction of justice yadayadayada by someone I tend to assume that they have something substantial to go on, like the video of Rodney King being beat up. It is hard to keep up on current events in the US here in Europe, and I am not sure I am all that interested in doing so after having been exposed to the superbowl halftime hysteria, just to take an example. I find life is a more pleasant experience if I assume that people know what they are talking about - at least until they prove otherwise. I may have been wrong in this case, of course. :) Geir |
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"Ray" writes:
But Geir. You're assuming that the charges are valid in the first place. I agree with Tennis that the "innocent until proven guilty" theorem is being badly trodden in this country under George II and his cronies, or should I say "puppeteers." When someone says they have read about obstruction of justice yadayadayada by someone I tend to assume that they have something substantial to go on, like the video of Rodney King being beat up. It is hard to keep up on current events in the US here in Europe, and I am not sure I am all that interested in doing so after having been exposed to the superbowl halftime hysteria, just to take an example. I find life is a more pleasant experience if I assume that people know what they are talking about - at least until they prove otherwise. I may have been wrong in this case, of course. :) Geir |
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"Ray" writes:
But Geir. You're assuming that the charges are valid in the first place. I agree with Tennis that the "innocent until proven guilty" theorem is being badly trodden in this country under George II and his cronies, or should I say "puppeteers." When someone says they have read about obstruction of justice yadayadayada by someone I tend to assume that they have something substantial to go on, like the video of Rodney King being beat up. It is hard to keep up on current events in the US here in Europe, and I am not sure I am all that interested in doing so after having been exposed to the superbowl halftime hysteria, just to take an example. I find life is a more pleasant experience if I assume that people know what they are talking about - at least until they prove otherwise. I may have been wrong in this case, of course. :) Geir |
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I didn't read it as he thought the charges were valid or invalid.
It seemed to me his only comment that exposing corruption was good. See...I find it funny that this stuff always gets around to being a politicians fault, when the constant thread in this situation is that someone turned him in. George has said that many times, and although I rarely believe everything I read, this has come up enough that I have a hard time buying into repetitive coincidence. Why not put the blame where it belongs - on the person who alerted him to authorities. I have no doubt that whomever was in the Whitehouse, George would still be having the same issue. And as for Tennis's comment, he is free to move to another state in which he feels less repressed. I find it offensive that his post seems to indicate that he feels his problems are bigger than those of the wide audience that traffic this or any other group. He doesn't know the genetic makeup nor the personal circumstances of most of the people whom his message is received by. There are many communities in which he would be the majority if that is what would make him feel more comfortable. Crystal -- http://home.comcast.net/~xtals/orchid.htm "Ray" wrote in message ... But Geir. You're assuming that the charges are valid in the first place. I agree with Tennis that the "innocent until proven guilty" theorem is being badly trodden in this country under George II and his cronies, or should I say "puppeteers." -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . . . . . . . . . . . "Geir Harris Hedemark" wrote in message ... tennis maynard writes: plant police and law enforcement in general. Almost every day, I read about deliberate obstruction of justice, mal- and mis- feasance as well as downright theft, murder, assault and other abuse by members of our law enforcement agencies (including prosecutors, judges, and the FBI). They no longer deserve any of the trust previously reposed in them, and I am far more likely to believe anyone on the wrong side of them is on the right side of the law. rant I cannot believe anyone goes into rant mode because someone in a place of power is found out. It looks like - and this is what gives me the willies - you would actually prefer that these guys were not found out, and that this would make you trust these people more. To me, it looks like you want a system that doesn't catch these people - who will always be attracted to positions of power - just so you could have some peace of mind. Hear no evil, see no evil... I hope you didn't actually mean what you said. /rant Geir |
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I didn't read it as he thought the charges were valid or invalid.
It seemed to me his only comment that exposing corruption was good. See...I find it funny that this stuff always gets around to being a politicians fault, when the constant thread in this situation is that someone turned him in. George has said that many times, and although I rarely believe everything I read, this has come up enough that I have a hard time buying into repetitive coincidence. Why not put the blame where it belongs - on the person who alerted him to authorities. I have no doubt that whomever was in the Whitehouse, George would still be having the same issue. And as for Tennis's comment, he is free to move to another state in which he feels less repressed. I find it offensive that his post seems to indicate that he feels his problems are bigger than those of the wide audience that traffic this or any other group. He doesn't know the genetic makeup nor the personal circumstances of most of the people whom his message is received by. There are many communities in which he would be the majority if that is what would make him feel more comfortable. Crystal -- http://home.comcast.net/~xtals/orchid.htm "Ray" wrote in message ... But Geir. You're assuming that the charges are valid in the first place. I agree with Tennis that the "innocent until proven guilty" theorem is being badly trodden in this country under George II and his cronies, or should I say "puppeteers." -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . . . . . . . . . . . "Geir Harris Hedemark" wrote in message ... tennis maynard writes: plant police and law enforcement in general. Almost every day, I read about deliberate obstruction of justice, mal- and mis- feasance as well as downright theft, murder, assault and other abuse by members of our law enforcement agencies (including prosecutors, judges, and the FBI). They no longer deserve any of the trust previously reposed in them, and I am far more likely to believe anyone on the wrong side of them is on the right side of the law. rant I cannot believe anyone goes into rant mode because someone in a place of power is found out. It looks like - and this is what gives me the willies - you would actually prefer that these guys were not found out, and that this would make you trust these people more. To me, it looks like you want a system that doesn't catch these people - who will always be attracted to positions of power - just so you could have some peace of mind. Hear no evil, see no evil... I hope you didn't actually mean what you said. /rant Geir |
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I didn't read it as he thought the charges were valid or invalid.
It seemed to me his only comment that exposing corruption was good. See...I find it funny that this stuff always gets around to being a politicians fault, when the constant thread in this situation is that someone turned him in. George has said that many times, and although I rarely believe everything I read, this has come up enough that I have a hard time buying into repetitive coincidence. Why not put the blame where it belongs - on the person who alerted him to authorities. I have no doubt that whomever was in the Whitehouse, George would still be having the same issue. And as for Tennis's comment, he is free to move to another state in which he feels less repressed. I find it offensive that his post seems to indicate that he feels his problems are bigger than those of the wide audience that traffic this or any other group. He doesn't know the genetic makeup nor the personal circumstances of most of the people whom his message is received by. There are many communities in which he would be the majority if that is what would make him feel more comfortable. Crystal -- http://home.comcast.net/~xtals/orchid.htm "Ray" wrote in message ... But Geir. You're assuming that the charges are valid in the first place. I agree with Tennis that the "innocent until proven guilty" theorem is being badly trodden in this country under George II and his cronies, or should I say "puppeteers." -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . . . . . . . . . . . "Geir Harris Hedemark" wrote in message ... tennis maynard writes: plant police and law enforcement in general. Almost every day, I read about deliberate obstruction of justice, mal- and mis- feasance as well as downright theft, murder, assault and other abuse by members of our law enforcement agencies (including prosecutors, judges, and the FBI). They no longer deserve any of the trust previously reposed in them, and I am far more likely to believe anyone on the wrong side of them is on the right side of the law. rant I cannot believe anyone goes into rant mode because someone in a place of power is found out. It looks like - and this is what gives me the willies - you would actually prefer that these guys were not found out, and that this would make you trust these people more. To me, it looks like you want a system that doesn't catch these people - who will always be attracted to positions of power - just so you could have some peace of mind. Hear no evil, see no evil... I hope you didn't actually mean what you said. /rant Geir |
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"Ray" wrote in message ... But Geir. You're assuming that the charges are valid in the first place. I agree with Tennis that the "innocent until proven guilty" theorem is being badly trodden in this country under George II and his cronies, or should I say "puppeteers." Hey Ray, you're saying this as if this kind of abuse, together with the "puppeteers" didn't exist during the Clinton administration ;) Mariana |
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"Ray" wrote in message ... But Geir. You're assuming that the charges are valid in the first place. I agree with Tennis that the "innocent until proven guilty" theorem is being badly trodden in this country under George II and his cronies, or should I say "puppeteers." Hey Ray, you're saying this as if this kind of abuse, together with the "puppeteers" didn't exist during the Clinton administration ;) Mariana |
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 21:02:30 GMT, "Diana Kulaga"
wrote: I have strong opinions on the thoughts and accusations in this thread, so I'm sorely tempted to get into this, but..........nah. Not worth the loss of camaradarie. Yeap! deg |
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 21:02:30 GMT, "Diana Kulaga"
wrote: I have strong opinions on the thoughts and accusations in this thread, so I'm sorely tempted to get into this, but..........nah. Not worth the loss of camaradarie. Yeap! deg |
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 21:02:30 GMT, "Diana Kulaga"
wrote: I have strong opinions on the thoughts and accusations in this thread, so I'm sorely tempted to get into this, but..........nah. Not worth the loss of camaradarie. Diana I was working under the assunmption the charges are likely true. If not then I hope he is exonerated. BUT when it comes to fols who ARE guilty of wholesale rampaging through wild stock I have no pity or use for them. MY Humble opinion of course. And Ray I agreee with you on Dubya but this is not the proper forum for that discussion! G Dave |
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 21:02:30 GMT, "Diana Kulaga"
wrote: I have strong opinions on the thoughts and accusations in this thread, so I'm sorely tempted to get into this, but..........nah. Not worth the loss of camaradarie. Diana I was working under the assunmption the charges are likely true. If not then I hope he is exonerated. BUT when it comes to fols who ARE guilty of wholesale rampaging through wild stock I have no pity or use for them. MY Humble opinion of course. And Ray I agreee with you on Dubya but this is not the proper forum for that discussion! G Dave |
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Diana, you got it right. This thread is kinda taking the fun out of a
gardening forum since we do not expect to get into politics when we visit this forum. I also believe some people will not purchase in the future from certain vendors because of their comments. Bobby Baxter http://thegardensite.com "Diana Kulaga" wrote in message ink.net... I have strong opinions on the thoughts and accusations in this thread, so I'm sorely tempted to get into this, but..........nah. Not worth the loss of camaradarie. Diana |
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Diana, you got it right. This thread is kinda taking the fun out of a
gardening forum since we do not expect to get into politics when we visit this forum. I also believe some people will not purchase in the future from certain vendors because of their comments. Bobby Baxter http://thegardensite.com "Diana Kulaga" wrote in message ink.net... I have strong opinions on the thoughts and accusations in this thread, so I'm sorely tempted to get into this, but..........nah. Not worth the loss of camaradarie. Diana |
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No, I wouldn't truly say that. It's just that the current administration
has really kicked the civil-liberty-trodding into a higher gear, in my opinion. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! .. . . . . . . . . . . "GrlIntrpted" wrote in message . net... "Ray" wrote in message ... But Geir. You're assuming that the charges are valid in the first place. I agree with Tennis that the "innocent until proven guilty" theorem is being badly trodden in this country under George II and his cronies, or should I say "puppeteers." Hey Ray, you're saying this as if this kind of abuse, together with the "puppeteers" didn't exist during the Clinton administration ;) Mariana |
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No, I wouldn't truly say that. It's just that the current administration
has really kicked the civil-liberty-trodding into a higher gear, in my opinion. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! .. . . . . . . . . . . "GrlIntrpted" wrote in message . net... "Ray" wrote in message ... But Geir. You're assuming that the charges are valid in the first place. I agree with Tennis that the "innocent until proven guilty" theorem is being badly trodden in this country under George II and his cronies, or should I say "puppeteers." Hey Ray, you're saying this as if this kind of abuse, together with the "puppeteers" didn't exist during the Clinton administration ;) Mariana |
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 21:02:30 GMT, "Diana Kulaga"
wrote: I have strong opinions on the thoughts and accusations in this thread, so I'm sorely tempted to get into this, but..........nah. Not worth the loss of camaradarie. Diana I was working under the assunmption the charges are likely true. If not then I hope he is exonerated. BUT when it comes to fols who ARE guilty of wholesale rampaging through wild stock I have no pity or use for them. MY Humble opinion of course. And Ray I agreee with you on Dubya but this is not the proper forum for that discussion! G Dave |
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 21:02:30 GMT, "Diana Kulaga"
wrote: I have strong opinions on the thoughts and accusations in this thread, so I'm sorely tempted to get into this, but..........nah. Not worth the loss of camaradarie. Diana I was working under the assunmption the charges are likely true. If not then I hope he is exonerated. BUT when it comes to fols who ARE guilty of wholesale rampaging through wild stock I have no pity or use for them. MY Humble opinion of course. And Ray I agreee with you on Dubya but this is not the proper forum for that discussion! G Dave |
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Diana, you got it right. This thread is kinda taking the fun out of a
gardening forum since we do not expect to get into politics when we visit this forum. I also believe some people will not purchase in the future from certain vendors because of their comments. Bobby Baxter http://thegardensite.com "Diana Kulaga" wrote in message ink.net... I have strong opinions on the thoughts and accusations in this thread, so I'm sorely tempted to get into this, but..........nah. Not worth the loss of camaradarie. Diana |
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No, I wouldn't truly say that. It's just that the current administration
has really kicked the civil-liberty-trodding into a higher gear, in my opinion. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! .. . . . . . . . . . . "GrlIntrpted" wrote in message . net... "Ray" wrote in message ... But Geir. You're assuming that the charges are valid in the first place. I agree with Tennis that the "innocent until proven guilty" theorem is being badly trodden in this country under George II and his cronies, or should I say "puppeteers." Hey Ray, you're saying this as if this kind of abuse, together with the "puppeteers" didn't exist during the Clinton administration ;) Mariana |
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 21:02:30 GMT, "Diana Kulaga"
wrote: I have strong opinions on the thoughts and accusations in this thread, so I'm sorely tempted to get into this, but..........nah. Not worth the loss of camaradarie. Diana I was working under the assunmption the charges are likely true. If not then I hope he is exonerated. BUT when it comes to fols who ARE guilty of wholesale rampaging through wild stock I have no pity or use for them. MY Humble opinion of course. And Ray I agreee with you on Dubya but this is not the proper forum for that discussion! G Dave |
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 21:02:30 GMT, "Diana Kulaga"
wrote: I have strong opinions on the thoughts and accusations in this thread, so I'm sorely tempted to get into this, but..........nah. Not worth the loss of camaradarie. Diana I was working under the assunmption the charges are likely true. If not then I hope he is exonerated. BUT when it comes to fols who ARE guilty of wholesale rampaging through wild stock I have no pity or use for them. MY Humble opinion of course. And Ray I agreee with you on Dubya but this is not the proper forum for that discussion! G Dave |
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Diana, you got it right. This thread is kinda taking the fun out of a
gardening forum since we do not expect to get into politics when we visit this forum. I also believe some people will not purchase in the future from certain vendors because of their comments. Bobby Baxter http://thegardensite.com "Diana Kulaga" wrote in message ink.net... I have strong opinions on the thoughts and accusations in this thread, so I'm sorely tempted to get into this, but..........nah. Not worth the loss of camaradarie. Diana |
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No, I wouldn't truly say that. It's just that the current administration
has really kicked the civil-liberty-trodding into a higher gear, in my opinion. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! .. . . . . . . . . . . "GrlIntrpted" wrote in message . net... "Ray" wrote in message ... But Geir. You're assuming that the charges are valid in the first place. I agree with Tennis that the "innocent until proven guilty" theorem is being badly trodden in this country under George II and his cronies, or should I say "puppeteers." Hey Ray, you're saying this as if this kind of abuse, together with the "puppeteers" didn't exist during the Clinton administration ;) Mariana |
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I also believe some people will not purchase in the future from certain vendors because of their comments. Bobby, There, I differ with you. If sharing the same opinions, politically or otherwise, was a criteria for any kind of relationship, personal or commercial, then my favorite sister and I would never speak to each other again! Diana |
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Diana, you got it right. This thread is kinda taking the fun out of a
gardening forum since we do not expect to get into politics when we visit this forum. I also believe some people will not purchase in the future from certain vendors because of their comments. Bobby Baxter http://thegardensite.com "Diana Kulaga" wrote in message ink.net... I have strong opinions on the thoughts and accusations in this thread, so I'm sorely tempted to get into this, but..........nah. Not worth the loss of camaradarie. Diana |
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No, I wouldn't truly say that. It's just that the current administration
has really kicked the civil-liberty-trodding into a higher gear, in my opinion. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! .. . . . . . . . . . . "GrlIntrpted" wrote in message . net... "Ray" wrote in message ... But Geir. You're assuming that the charges are valid in the first place. I agree with Tennis that the "innocent until proven guilty" theorem is being badly trodden in this country under George II and his cronies, or should I say "puppeteers." Hey Ray, you're saying this as if this kind of abuse, together with the "puppeteers" didn't exist during the Clinton administration ;) Mariana |
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I also believe some people will not purchase in the future from certain vendors because of their comments. Bobby, There, I differ with you. If sharing the same opinions, politically or otherwise, was a criteria for any kind of relationship, personal or commercial, then my favorite sister and I would never speak to each other again! Diana |
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