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open letter to all perma-culturists who realy care - back 2 grass roots
Howdy again, I'm chiming in all over the place *sigh*
"Fran" wrote in message ... "len gardener" wrote in message but when you get involved around the 'net and try to do any research all you get is certificates, diplomas, institutes and the call for it to be a uni degree and a senior school curriculum. and it all spells money and they are not promoting pc as something everyone can do (snip) and for discenteres just do a search under pc and see what you get lots and lots of certificates and diplomas, none of here is how simple pc can be so get started today. pc is a mind set not a design course. Well that is true to some extent, but if you think about it for a moment, just how many home veggie gardening pages do you find when you do a google search? If I just do a hunt using the word "vegetables" I'm going to get up every page with veggies on it whether I want it or not AND most of those pages will be about commercial ventures:- vegetable wholesalers, vegetarian restaurants, health practitioners extolling the value of their diet services that use vegetables, etc, etc etc. People like you, who put up a homepage that includes veggies growing, won't necessarily know how to put in the info needed for search engines to pick up the site. Also, since you also probably have to pay for your home page you are less likely to put in much info that the rest of us would like to see. The commercial world will always be to the forefront in putting the info out there because they will pay for professionals to make their page and they will pay to do it well and for it to come up in each and every search that uses the keyword of "permaculture". Too true, web advertising is budgeted for in businesses now days, it's hard to compete with that if you're an 'owner/builder' web page, but keep plugging away there (lol, i also think if you put 'vegetables' into a search engine you'd probably get a load of strange and probably unhygenic sounding porn judging by the crap that's been flooding this group lately p) You may object to the making money approach and think that all pc practisioners should all do it for free and gratis but it has never been that way from what I can tell. Friends of mine ran a pc course way, way back in the very early days. They had met Mollison or knew him somehow and asked him to come and run a session. He agreed if he was put up for the time he was there. snip, but that must have been incredibly disheartening Mollison hasn't done too badly off permaculture either, which is reasonable since he & David Holmgren coined the phrase, then, iirc, copyrighted it, so making a bob off the idea has always been there, but it is a bit of a pain in the butt if you're given the impression that the only way to get into it is to shell out a large amount of dosh to 'learn' it... I'm with you there Len Anyway I suspect that the grassroots bodies who are doing pc are probably all busily out there doing it and not spending as much time on the computer. Just ignore the pc yuppies. You don't have to buy their way of doing it and as I said earlier I don't ever recall anyone who posted here regularly ever having had a cert or an interest in making money out of pc. Better to stick around here than those other forums. Excellent advice Fran D And everyone who used to post here was busily doing their own thing and learning as we went and sharing their experiences, it'd be great to get that back, but i suppose monitoring the group, responding to q's etc (which I know you guys do) and being welcoming to any new people is probably the best way to get the ng back from the spammers and breathe some life back into it... just to save replying further down: I loved your story about the compost and the worms, Fran - only people with gardeners hearts (and maybe fisherperson hearts) would think to save the worms, it did make me laugh, I'd be doing the same thing I think, and as to being 'old meat', I resemble... er... resent that remark, lmao Have a good weekend all, Andrea |
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