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Constructing epithets (was Use of the word "behen" in names)
when the specific epithet derives from a place name, the place name is
Latinised by adding -ense for a feminine name, or -ensis for a masculine or neuter generic name. Well, sometimes - I've seen e.g. peruana and I think peruviana too. The two endings have entirely different uses. -ense means from. Planta chinense or sinense means plant from China. -ana or -anum or -anus means in honor of. It can be added to the name of a country or a person. There are many different plants named rothschildiana, honoring the Rothschilds, who financed numerous botanical expeditions. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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Constructing epithets (was Use of the word "behen" in names)
"Iris Cohen" wrote in message ... when the specific epithet derives from a place name, the place name is Latinised by adding -ense for a feminine name, or -ensis for a masculine or neuter generic name. Well, sometimes - I've seen e.g. peruana and I think peruviana too. The two endings have entirely different uses. -ense means from. Planta chinense or sinense means plant from China. -ana or -anum or -anus means in honor of. It can be added to the name of a country or a person. There are many different plants named rothschildiana, honoring the Rothschilds, who financed numerous botanical expeditions. There do seem to be quite a few exceptions to this. And the Latin root of '-anus' only implies 'of' or 'pertaining to', not particularly distinct from 'originating from' (cf. 'montanus', 'montana'). .. E.g I'm sure Aira caryophyllea ssp .armoricana is named because it's found in Brittany, not particularly to honour the place. Argemone mexicana? Genista monspessulana / Acer monspessulanum? Limonium transwallianum? Anyway, St. Louis code: "60D.1. An epithet derived from a geographical name is preferably an adjective and usually takes the termination -ensis, -(a)nus, -inus, or -icus." (Which fails to mention '-acus' BTW.) It doesn't seem to make any usage distinctions between these. At this point various silly thoughts came to mind: Acer pseudoplatanus - in honour of a fake philosopher Matthiola incana - in honour of a lost civilization Galeopsis ladanum - in honour of a triumph of Soviet engineering |
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Constructing epithets (was Use of the word "behen" in names)
"Iris Cohen" wrote
The two endings have entirely different uses. -ense means from. Planta chinense or sinense means plant from China. -ana or -anum or -anus means in honor of. It can be added to the name of a country or a person. There are many different plants named rothschildiana, honoring the Rothschilds, who financed numerous botanical expeditions. Martin Rand schreef There do seem to be quite a few exceptions to this. And the Latin root of '-anus' only implies 'of' or 'pertaining to', not particularly distinct from 'originating from' (cf. 'montanus', 'montana'). E.g I'm sure Aira caryophyllea ssp armoricana is named because it's found in Brittany, not particularly to honour the place. Argemone mexicana? Genista monspessulana / Acer monspessulanum? Limonium transwallianum? Anyway, St. Louis code: "60D.1. An epithet derived from a geographical name is preferably an adjective and usually takes the termination -ensis, -(a)nus, -inus, or -icus." (Which fails to mention '-acus' BTW.) It doesn't seem to make any usage distinctions between these. + + + Indeed there is no distinction in usage, otherwise there would be two or more forms of epithets ("sinense" and 'sinanum'?!?) for popular geographical names. As a rule there is one epithet for one geographical name. There does appear to be a pattern as to what kind of geographical names have what kind of epithet. I don't believe there is a place in Italy that takes a "-ensis" ending. The further away from Italy a place is the more likely it appears to get an epithet ending on "-ensis". PvR |
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Constructing epithets (was Use of the word "behen" in names)
P van Rijckevorsel schreef
Indeed there is no distinction in usage, otherwise there would be two or more forms of epithets ("sinense" and 'sinanum'?!?) for popular geographical names. As a rule there is one epithet for one geographical name. + + + I should be more careful! China is indeed an exception: "chinensis", "sinensis" and "sinicus" PvR |
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Constructing epithets (was Use of the word "behen" in names)
"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message ... Martin Rand schreef There do seem to be quite a few exceptions to this. And the Latin root of '-anus' only implies 'of' or 'pertaining to', not particularly distinct from 'originating from' (cf. 'montanus', 'montana'). E.g I'm sure Aira caryophyllea ssp armoricana is named because it's found in Brittany, not particularly to honour the place. Argemone mexicana? Genista monspessulana / Acer monspessulanum? Limonium transwallianum? Anyway, St. Louis code: "60D.1. An epithet derived from a geographical name is preferably an adjective and usually takes the termination -ensis, -(a)nus, -inus, or -icus." (Which fails to mention '-acus' BTW.) It doesn't seem to make any usage distinctions between these. + + + Indeed there is no distinction in usage, otherwise there would be two or more forms of epithets ("sinense" and 'sinanum'?!?) for popular geographical names. As a rule there is one epithet for one geographical name. There does appear to be a pattern as to what kind of geographical names have what kind of epithet. I don't believe there is a place in Italy that takes a "-ensis" ending. The further away from Italy a place is the more likely it appears to get an epithet ending on "-ensis". Well, I couldn't resist a challenge like that, but it was hard work! Asplenium x ticinense! And a whole lot of things baldensis / baldense! :-) |
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Constructing epithets (was Use of the word "behen" in names)
There does appear to be a pattern as to what kind of geographical names
have what kind of epithet. I don't believe there is a place in Italy that takes a "-ensis" ending. The further away from Italy a place is the more likely it appears to get an epithet ending on "-ensis". Martin Rand schreef Well, I couldn't resist a challenge like that, but it was hard work! Asplenium x ticinense! And a whole lot of things baldensis / baldense! :-) + + + Allright, allright! I am claiming there is a pattern. It need not be airtight! As you know the Romans counted things in distance from Rome. For a long while not even the whole of what is now Italy was part of the Roman empire. Northern Italy remained "Gallia cisalpina" and even these days there is a political movement which tries to separate Northern Italy from the decadent rest. So within Italy the further away from Rome a locality is the more likely it is to have an "-ensis" ending. In Stearn there is mention of "senensis" from Sienna, also in Northern Italy. On the other end of Italy, also far from Rome there is Sicily with the epithets "siculus" and "siciliensis", and I guess Sicily is not Italy proper (as the Italians, and certainly the Romans, count it). Having said that I am a little uneasy about "baldensis": IPNI mentions a geographical locality in only a few entries and these include not only Italy, but also Austria and Roemenia? So maybe there is not only a Monte Baldo but a second location? Also, Monte Baldo does not really sound as if it has its roots in Latin? PvR |
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Constructing epithets (was Use of the word "behen" in names)
There do seem to be quite a few exceptions to this. And the Latin root of
'-anus' only implies 'of' or 'pertaining to', not particularly distinct from 'originating from' (cf. 'montanus', 'montana'). True, and a lot of it is custom, rather than grammar. Acer pseudoplatanus - in honour of a fake philosopher Matthiola incana - in honour of a lost civilization Galeopsis ladanum - in honour of a triumph of Soviet engineering Absolutely. There are some real ones that are a lot worse. Lindley named an orchid genus Aa, just to get it in the front of Index kewensis. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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