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Use of the word "behen" in names
P=A0van=A0Rijckevorsel wrote:
Curious. Within the first ten hits of my search engine I got this: Behen: From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) [web1913] Behen \Be"hen\, Behn \Behn\, n. [Per. & Ar. bahman, behmen, an =A0 herb, whose leaves resemble ears of corn, saffron.] (Bot.) =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0(a) The {Centaurea behen}, or saw-leaved centaury. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0(b) The {Cucubalus behen}, or bladder campion, now called =A0 =A0 =A0 {Silene inflata}. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0(c) The {Statice limonium}, or sea lavender. This exactly why I asked my question. I found 20 plant names all with "behen" as the second part of the name (a latin name being the first part). Have had no luck finding the meaning of behen in these names. Jack |
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Use of the word "behen" in names
P van Rijckevorsel wrote:
Curious. Within the first ten hits of my search engine I got this: Behen: From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) [web1913] Behen \Be"hen\, Behn \Behn\, n. [Per. & Ar. bahman, behmen, an herb, whose leaves resemble ears of corn, saffron.] (Bot.) (a) The {Centaurea behen}, or saw-leaved centaury. (b) The {Cucubalus behen}, or bladder campion, now called {Silene inflata}. (c) The {Statice limonium}, or sea lavender. schreef This exactly why I asked my question. I found 20 plant names all with "behen" as the second part of the name (a latin name being the first part). Have had no luck finding the meaning of behen in these names. Jack + + + Looking at IPNI there appear to be the following basionyms: Astragalus behen Centaurea behen Silene behen and / or Cucubalus behen [not sure if these are the same plant] Erica behen Statice behen The way I count that makes five or six. Not really a popular epithet at all. BTW, words like Astragalus, Centaurea and Erica are Greek, not Latin. The obvious assumption would be that these plants look like behen or are used as behen. Since the dictionary states "whose leaves resemble ears of corn" the logical thing would be to look at the leaves of these plants. However, if these pictures are accurate this looks unpromising: http://www.uochb.cas.cz/~natur/cerambyx/centbeh.htm A clue as to its appeal may be found here [?]: http://www.reason2shop.com/hernirsexvit.html http://www.herbsandfood.com/products/herbs.html PvR |
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Use of the word "behen" in names
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This exactly why I asked my question. I found 20 plant names all with "behen" as the second part of the name (a latin name being the first part). Have had no luck finding the meaning of behen in these names. Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote: As it's from a Persian or Arabic (or Turkish) word behmen or behman, your best bet would be to find a dictionary of one of those languages. It seems to be obscure enough that you'd need a big dictionary from a reference library. You could also try a Complete Oxford English, as the word seems to have been used in English. Phred schreef For God's sake mates, use your nouse! Taxonomists are famous for scratching each other's backs. I have no doubt these plants are named after Mr/Dr/Sir/Rev/Whatever Behen. The world is full of Behens. A simple Google search for "behen" turned up a couple of genealogy links in the first ten of 7130 items found. As well as this one which I rather liked, being very contemporary. :-) quoting Jahaaji Behen? Feminist Literary Theory and the Indian Presence in the Caribbean. Sheila Rampersad Centre for Caribbean Studies University /quoting Cheers, Phred. + + + I am not sure what a nouse is and how it should be used (perhaps it is an ossie spear thrower? or a particular kind of beer mug. That would explain things!), but you are not using common sense. It is exactly because there is a tradition of naming plants for people that this one was not named for it. If there were a famous botanist that Linnaeus named this plant for references to it would pop up all over the place. In the absense of these it must have a fairly obscure source. Not to mention that an epithet based on Mr/Dr/Sir/Rev/Whatever Behen should be "behenii" / "beheniae" (if female) or behenianus/um/a PvR |
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Rijckevorsel writes I am not sure what a nouse is and how it should be used Slang term for intelligence/common sense. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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Use of the word "behen" in names
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Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote: In article , writes This exactly why I asked my question. I found 20 plant names all with "behen" as the second part of the name (a latin name being the first part). Have had no luck finding the meaning of behen in these names. As it's from a Persian or Arabic (or Turkish) word behmen or behman, your best bet would be to find a dictionary of one of those languages. It seems to be obscure enough that you'd need a big dictionary from a reference library. You could also try a Complete Oxford English, as the word seems to have been used in English. For God's sake mates, use your nouse! Taxonomists are famous for scratching each other's backs. I have no doubt these plants are named after Mr/Dr/Sir/Rev/Whatever Behen. The world is full of Behens. A simple Google search for "behen" turned up a couple of genealogy links in the first ten of 7130 items found. As well as this one which I rather liked, being very contemporary. :-) quoting Jahaaji Behen? Feminist Literary Theory and the Indian Presence in the Caribbean. Sheila Rampersad Centre for Caribbean Studies University /quoting Cheers, Phred. -- LID |
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"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message ... In article , P van Rijckevorsel writes I am not sure what a nouse is and how it should be used Slang term for intelligence/common sense. -- I think that's "nous". I would guess a nouse is either a snall rodent or else something you nove around to nake your conputer work. |
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Use of the word "behen" in names
Martin Rand schreef
I think that's "nous". I would guess a nouse is either a snall rodent or else something you nove around to nake your conputer work. + + + Internet is a wonderful thing. The correct spelling is "NoUse" and it appears short for a 'musical' band: "No Use for a name". Still not sure how to use it. Perhaps it is a general comment about the futility of trying to understand names? PvR |
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Use of the word "behen" in names
Curious. Within the first ten hits of my search engine I got this:
Behen: From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) [web1913] Behen \Be"hen\, Behn \Behn\, n. [Per. & Ar. bahman, behmen, an herb, whose leaves resemble ears of corn, saffron.] (Bot.) (a) The {Centaurea behen}, or saw-leaved centaury. (b) The {Cucubalus behen}, or bladder campion, now called {Silene inflata}. (c) The {Statice limonium}, or sea lavender. PvR schreef Can anyone give me the history of the use of the word behen in plant names (and at least one insect i.e. Phytoecia behen) It seems it might be related to India in some way but I have been unable to find a description on the web. I am not knowledgable in Botany (should be obvious) just curious. Thank you. |
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