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Old 07-06-2003, 03:20 PM
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You neglected to also do a search on its common name, Aleppo pine. Apparently
it was not introduced to Spain & other countries in Europe, but is native
there. I found this on a Moroccan site:
Aleppo pine (Pinus halepensis Mill.) is a coniferous species, which cover
about 3.5 million hectares in the Mediterranean area. It extends from 9°
longitude west in Morocco to 36° longitude east in Jordan, and from 45°
latitude north in France to 31°30' latitude in Palestine and Israel.
Throughout its range, it individualizes several races and ecotypes related to
localities, altitude and soil substrate. Its origin in Morocco, Spain and
France is likely natural and Moroccan populations seem to be relic.


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Old 07-06-2003, 04:56 PM
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Or for its botanical name. Within first ten hits:

ftp://dendrome.ucdavis.edu/RANGEMAP/halepensis.gif
http://www.botanical-online.com/foto...halapensis.htm
PvR

Iris Cohen schreef
You neglected to also do a search on its common name, Aleppo pine.

Apparently it was not introduced to Spain & other countries in Europe, but
is native there. I found this on a Moroccan site: Aleppo pine (Pinus
halepensis Mill.) is a coniferous species, which cover about 3.5 million
hectares in the Mediterranean area. It extends from 9° longitude west in
Morocco to 36° longitude east in Jordan, and from 45° latitude north in
France to 31°30' latitude in Palestine and Israel.
Throughout its range, it individualizes several races and ecotypes
related to localities, altitude and soil substrate. Its origin in Morocco,
Spain and France is likely natural and Moroccan populations seem to be
relic.

Iris,









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Iris Cohen
 
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Thanks for the additional info. To be fair, not everybody's browser hits
everything the first time. I am sure I have searched on P. halepensis, but I
never saw these before. I dunno why they called it P. halepensis. It
practically doesn't occur in Syria at all. Now I know its Spanish name.
But I still haven't got one one. Anybody know where I can get a small one?
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
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Old 08-06-2003, 10:20 AM
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Iris Cohen schreef
Thanks for the additional info. To be fair, not everybody's browser hits

everything the first time. I am sure I have searched on P. halepensis, but
I never saw these before. I dunno why they called it P. halepensis. It
practically doesn't occur in Syria at all. Now I know its Spanish name.
But I still haven't got one one. Anybody know where I can get a small one?

Iris,


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Different search engines turn up different results, so the exact sequence of
the top hits will vary a little.

Perhaps the epithet "halepensis" has something to do with the fact that the
species used to include P.brutia which does occur in Syria.

Actually Miller's "The gardeners dictionary" is just the sort of thing that
would be very useful on the internet and it may well be there, somewhere.

PvR






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In article , P van
Rijckevorsel writes

Actually Miller's "The gardeners dictionary" is just the sort of thing that
would be very useful on the internet and it may well be there, somewhere.


Would this be what you want?

http://gallica.bnf.fr/scripts/Consul...?E=0&O=N096668
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P van Rijckevorsel writes

Actually Miller's "The gardeners dictionary" is just the sort of thing

that would be very useful on the internet and it may well be there,
somewhere.

Stewart Robert Hinsley schreef
Would this be what you want?


http://gallica.bnf.fr/scripts/Consul...?E=0&O=N096668

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Stewart Robert Hinsley


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Almost! From a nomenclatural perspective the important editions a

- for binary names (species) the eight edition (1768)

- for generic names the fourth edition (1754) of the abridged version

The link is for the seventh edition (1759), which however does appear to
already have this species (number eight under Pinus, plate 208). Here
already it is the Aleppo pine, no reason or clues given.

PvR




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