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Water Lily question
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Is Nymphaea maculata a new name for Nymphaea lotus? The books I have are not complete, the information on the web is confusing/contradictory,or I just don't understand it. thanks -- - Charles - -does not play well with others |
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writes Nomenclature Is Nymphaea maculata a new name for Nymphaea lotus? The books I have are not complete, the information on the web is confusing/contradictory,or I just don't understand it. thanks IPNI (http://www.ipni.org) has N. maculata Raf. as possibly the same as N. tuberosa, and N. tuberosa as a form of N. odorata, and N. odorata the same as N. nitida. It has N. maculata Schum. & Thonn. as the same as N. stellata. (I guess N. stellata Willd. rather than N. stellata F. Muell.. The latter is N. gigantea Hook.) Judging by the information elsewhere on the web, which has N. maculata as *African* tiger waterlily, and N. tuberosa as (temperate) *American* white waterlily the majority of references on the web would seem to be to N. maculata Schum. & Thonn. N. lotus was introduced by Linnaeus, and unless Linnaeus's name cannot be identified with a single currently recognised species, takes precedence over later names for that species. The Flora of Zimbabwe checklist gives N. lotus and N. maculata as separate species - http://www.zimbabweflora.co.zw/fams/nymphaeac.html. It looks to me as if N. maculata and N. lotus are distinct, but I don't see the smoking gun. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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In article , Charles
writes Nomenclature Is Nymphaea maculata a new name for Nymphaea lotus? The books I have are not complete, the information on the web is confusing/contradictory,or I just don't understand it. thanks IPNI (http://www.ipni.org) has N. maculata Raf. as possibly the same as N. tuberosa, and N. tuberosa as a form of N. odorata, and N. odorata the same as N. nitida. It has N. maculata Schum. & Thonn. as the same as N. stellata. (I guess N. stellata Willd. rather than N. stellata F. Muell.. The latter is N. gigantea Hook.) Judging by the information elsewhere on the web, which has N. maculata as *African* tiger waterlily, and N. tuberosa as (temperate) *American* white waterlily the majority of references on the web would seem to be to N. maculata Schum. & Thonn. N. lotus was introduced by Linnaeus, and unless Linnaeus's name cannot be identified with a single currently recognised species, takes precedence over later names for that species. The Flora of Zimbabwe checklist gives N. lotus and N. maculata as separate species - http://www.zimbabweflora.co.zw/fams/nymphaeac.html. It looks to me as if N. maculata and N. lotus are distinct, but I don't see the smoking gun. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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Is Nymphaea maculata a new name for Nymphaea lotus? The books I have are not complete, the information on the web is confusing/contradictory,or I just don't understand it. Stewart Robert Hinsley schreef IPNI (http://www.ipni.org) has N. maculata Raf. as possibly the same as N. tuberosa, and N. tuberosa as a form of N. odorata, and N. odorata the same as N. nitida. It has N. maculata Schum. & Thonn. as the same as N. stellata. (I guess N. stellata Willd. rather than N. stellata F. Muell.. The latter is N. gigantea Hook.) + + + Well, IPNI is not particularly helpful in such cases + + + Judging by the information elsewhere on the web, which has N. maculata as *African* tiger waterlily, and N. tuberosa as (temperate) *American* white waterlily the majority of references on the web would seem to be to N. maculata Schum. & Thonn. N. lotus was introduced by Linnaeus, and unless Linnaeus's name cannot be identified with a single currently recognised species, takes precedence over later names for that species. + + + Quite + + + The Flora of Zimbabwe checklist gives N. lotus and N. maculata as separate species - http://www.zimbabweflora.co.zw/fams/nymphaeac.html. + + + Also Tropicos + + + It looks to me as if N. maculata and N. lotus are distinct, but I don't see the smoking gun. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley + + + Look like it, PvR [perhaps there is a cultivar Nymphaea lotus 'Maculata' ?] |
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