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Old 31-03-2003, 07:44 PM
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I read how people use the plastic liners but also read how they install a
drain pipe . How do you install a drain pipe in a plastic liner? Thanks in
advance for your help.
Cathy


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Old 31-03-2003, 08:56 PM
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"russandcathy" wrote in message
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I read how people use the plastic liners but also read how they install a
drain pipe . How do you install a drain pipe in a plastic liner? Thanks in
advance for your help.
Cathy


By drain pipe, do you mean bottom drain? If so there numerous ways to run a
piece of piep through a flexible liner. There are many store bought
products, as well DIY versions. Can you be a bit more specific? I am sure
with a few more details about your plan, there are many experienced porgs
here to help.

BV.


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Old 31-03-2003, 10:45 PM
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We plan on building an above ground pond. 5ft by 8ft. We have boughten a
magnetic utility pump 1200 GPH and Tetra Pond Clearchoice PF3 Filter for
ponds up to 2600 gallons. The liner we bought is a tetra pond liner for 600
gallons. I really dont understand how if you poke plastic with a pipe, how
it doesnt rip or tear the plastic and how does it adhere to it without it
leaking? Of course meaning the bottom drain.
This is the 3rd pond we will have built or formed. The 1st being a preformed
molded plastic one which holds 80 gallons of water. The 2nd is one we added
into our house which holds 50 gallons of water and set into concrete. This
2nd one has a bottom drain already formed into it. We definetely love our
fish and pond plants. We winter both fish and pond plants in our home for
the winter because as you might know here in Western NY, we have some pretty
terrible winters.
Thank you for your response and help and hopefully from what i have told
you, you can add some more advise.
Cathy
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"russandcathy" wrote in message
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I read how people use the plastic liners but also read how they install

a
drain pipe . How do you install a drain pipe in a plastic liner? Thanks

in
advance for your help.
Cathy


By drain pipe, do you mean bottom drain? If so there numerous ways to run

a
piece of piep through a flexible liner. There are many store bought
products, as well DIY versions. Can you be a bit more specific? I am sure
with a few more details about your plan, there are many experienced porgs
here to help.

BV.




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Old 01-04-2003, 03:56 AM
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Question. Is your liner the Xavan or EPDM liner? If it is EPDM then look
at http://www.geocities.com/bickal2000/pond.htm for the pipe boot as a do it
yourself means of creating hole through the liner. He also has a DIY bottom
drain, and other good info. You can also buy bulkhead fittings which have
threaded flanges on both sides to clamp the liner, or you can make one with
two water closet flanges. I am not familiar with the properties of Xavan.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Russ and Cathy" wrote in message
...
We plan on building an above ground pond. 5ft by 8ft. We have boughten a
magnetic utility pump 1200 GPH and Tetra Pond Clearchoice PF3 Filter for
ponds up to 2600 gallons. The liner we bought is a tetra pond liner for

600
gallons. I really dont understand how if you poke plastic with a pipe,

how
it doesnt rip or tear the plastic and how does it adhere to it without it
leaking? Of course meaning the bottom drain.
This is the 3rd pond we will have built or formed. The 1st being a

preformed
molded plastic one which holds 80 gallons of water. The 2nd is one we

added
into our house which holds 50 gallons of water and set into concrete. This
2nd one has a bottom drain already formed into it. We definetely love our
fish and pond plants. We winter both fish and pond plants in our home for
the winter because as you might know here in Western NY, we have some

pretty
terrible winters.
Thank you for your response and help and hopefully from what i have told
you, you can add some more advise.
Cathy
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"russandcathy" wrote in message
...
I read how people use the plastic liners but also read how they

install
a
drain pipe . How do you install a drain pipe in a plastic liner?

Thanks
in
advance for your help.
Cathy


By drain pipe, do you mean bottom drain? If so there numerous ways to

run
a
piece of piep through a flexible liner. There are many store bought
products, as well DIY versions. Can you be a bit more specific? I am

sure
with a few more details about your plan, there are many experienced

porgs
here to help.

BV.






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Old 01-04-2003, 01:44 PM
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We have an Xavan liner. Thanks so much for your help. We do appreciate it.
Cathy
"RichToyBox" wrote in message
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Question. Is your liner the Xavan or EPDM liner? If it is EPDM then look
at http://www.geocities.com/bickal2000/pond.htm for the pipe boot as a do

it
yourself means of creating hole through the liner. He also has a DIY

bottom
drain, and other good info. You can also buy bulkhead fittings which have
threaded flanges on both sides to clamp the liner, or you can make one

with
two water closet flanges. I am not familiar with the properties of Xavan.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Russ and Cathy" wrote in message
...
We plan on building an above ground pond. 5ft by 8ft. We have boughten

a
magnetic utility pump 1200 GPH and Tetra Pond Clearchoice PF3 Filter for
ponds up to 2600 gallons. The liner we bought is a tetra pond liner for

600
gallons. I really dont understand how if you poke plastic with a pipe,

how
it doesnt rip or tear the plastic and how does it adhere to it without

it
leaking? Of course meaning the bottom drain.
This is the 3rd pond we will have built or formed. The 1st being a

preformed
molded plastic one which holds 80 gallons of water. The 2nd is one we

added
into our house which holds 50 gallons of water and set into concrete.

This
2nd one has a bottom drain already formed into it. We definetely love

our
fish and pond plants. We winter both fish and pond plants in our home

for
the winter because as you might know here in Western NY, we have some

pretty
terrible winters.
Thank you for your response and help and hopefully from what i have told
you, you can add some more advise.
Cathy
"BenignVanilla" m wrote

in
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"russandcathy" wrote in message
...
I read how people use the plastic liners but also read how they

install
a
drain pipe . How do you install a drain pipe in a plastic liner?

Thanks
in
advance for your help.
Cathy

By drain pipe, do you mean bottom drain? If so there numerous ways to

run
a
piece of piep through a flexible liner. There are many store bought
products, as well DIY versions. Can you be a bit more specific? I am

sure
with a few more details about your plan, there are many experienced

porgs
here to help.

BV.










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"russandcathy" wrote in message
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I read how people use the plastic liners but also read how they install a
drain pipe . How do you install a drain pipe in a plastic liner? Thanks in
advance for your help.


The pipe/tube that comes out of the bottom will have a big rubber washer
each side and you then cut the liner to the tube size and then sandwich it
all together. Ie, rubber washer, liner, then rubber washer. I have never
seen one! But this is how I would do it.

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SOUTH ENGLAND
ISLE OF WIGHT.
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"russandcathy" wrote in message
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I read how people use the plastic liners but also read how they install a
drain pipe . How do you install a drain pipe in a plastic liner? Thanks in
advance for your help.
Cathy



I forgot to mention that for this to work the liner would have to be a
rubber one and not these composit ones.
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Old 10-04-2003, 03:56 PM
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Thank you Ian. That makes sense to me.
Cathy


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"russandcathy" wrote in message
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I read how people use the plastic liners but also read how they install

a
drain pipe . How do you install a drain pipe in a plastic liner? Thanks

in
advance for your help.


The pipe/tube that comes out of the bottom will have a big rubber washer
each side and you then cut the liner to the tube size and then sandwich it
all together. Ie, rubber washer, liner, then rubber washer. I have never
seen one! But this is how I would do it.

--
SEE YER..
IAN P. GARDNER
SOUTH ENGLAND
ISLE OF WIGHT.
www.gardner44.freeserve.co.uk





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