I'm thinking of trying the wax gaskets they actually use with the toilet
flanges... idea is to make the hole large enough to just accomodate the end
opening, and have the large part of the flage inside the rubbermaid... and
have one of the wax toiulet gaskets between the flange and the rubbermaid
wall.. with compression, the wax should seal the opening, it's VERY sticky,
so should grip the rubbermaid, and since there will always be water on them,
the temperatures should keep them cool. they are somewhat temperature
tolerant, I believe, and since they are wax, there shouldn;t be any
chemicals to leech out into the pond water.

Seems like a cheap and simple solution, after trying quite a number of
glue/gasket solutions.

If it works, I'll have discovered a neat cheap trick.. if not, I'm no worst
off.
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(Gary Tabar Jr.)

Clever. My only concerns would be heat melting it (sun) or it
hardening up and being moved somehow in the depth of winter.

Jim

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Phyllis and Jim wrote:

Clever. My only concerns would be heat melting it (sun) or it
hardening up and being moved somehow in the depth of winter.

Jim

Aquarium silicone sealer will handle all temps, always be watertight and
is safe for fish. It's also inexpensive.

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The compression would have to be steadily compressed once it is
hardened. It won't bond to the plastic. That is why we went for EDPM
and a tar-like sealer. It can stretch if there is any flex in the
can. Steady pressure on the silicone would work as well, as long as
it did not get moved.

Jim

"Phyllis and Jim" wrote in message
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The compression would have to be steadily compressed once it is
hardened. It won't bond to the plastic. That is why we went for EDPM
and a tar-like sealer. It can stretch if there is any flex in the
can. Steady pressure on the silicone would work as well, as long as
it did not get moved.

So aquarium glue will not bond to the rubbermaid then?

The fitting won't be moved much, but the Rubbermaid does stretch with the
water weight, and since it is a fitting to an external line, I'm sure there
will be some simple occasional stress from cleaning the pond, hooking things
up, and detaching them, and storing the uv filter for winter.

I could use shoo goo (by the Goop people, and put a very generous amount on
both the interior and exterior. another thought, was to put it first on the
pvc pipe itself, so there's already a rubber "gasket" around it, and then
use it ac I described above.. I'd think the goop then would bond well to
itself.

Still considering options before pulling the filler out, and redoing that.

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Gareee
(Gary Tabar Jr.)

In article ,
"Gareee©" wrote:

"Phyllis and Jim" wrote in message
ups.com...
The compression would have to be steadily compressed once it is
hardened. It won't bond to the plastic. That is why we went for EDPM
and a tar-like sealer. It can stretch if there is any flex in the
can. Steady pressure on the silicone would work as well, as long as
it did not get moved.

So aquarium glue will not bond to the rubbermaid then?

Besides making sure the surface is clean and free of any grease, You
could also roughen the rubbermaid maid surface with sandpaper around
where you want the seal, just to give it a little "tooth".

The fitting won't be moved much, but the Rubbermaid does stretch with the
water weight, and since it is a fitting to an external line, I'm sure there
will be some simple occasional stress from cleaning the pond, hooking things
up, and detaching them, and storing the uv filter for winter.

I could use shoo goo (by the Goop people, and put a very generous amount on
both the interior and exterior. another thought, was to put it first on the
pvc pipe itself, so there's already a rubber "gasket" around it, and then
use it ac I described above.. I'd think the goop then would bond well to
itself.

Shoe Goo might work also. I've only used it on shoes, though.

Still considering options before pulling the filler out, and redoing that.

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The silicone would work fine, like a gasket, if it has compression.
With plastic flex, it is likely to come loose from its bond.

Jim

On Mon, 28 May 2007 14:16:18 CST, "Gareee©"
wrote:

I could use shoo goo (by the Goop people, and put a very generous amount on
both the interior and exterior. another thought, was to put it first on the
pvc pipe itself, so there's already a rubber "gasket" around it, and then
use it ac I described above.. I'd think the goop then would bond well to
itself.

DS said he roughed up the surface of the Rubbermaid before applying. ~ jan
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