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On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:42:27 CST, "Reel McKoi"
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I have two plant baskets wired together like clam shells. A bag? Anything
finer than the plant baskets would clog in no time.

I guess I don't understand your problem. Your pump is clogging even with
the clamshell?

No Jan. The clamshell keeps the plant debris out. A finer mesh "bag" would
clog quickly.


I think many of the answers were not to you, but to the OP who asked for
suggestions to a pump with no protection at the time.

Vinyl screening, imho, if held away from the pump, has about the same size
openings as the mesh baskets I have seen.

Not here where I live. Vinyl screening is so fine it clogs with algae and
plant debris - I tried it already.

Really large mesh baskets are
sometimes hard to find. Thus putting the pump in a bucket as Jim has done
or laundey/tote basket and then covered with screening gives adequate
surface area for most large pumps, and keeps tiny fry out. ~ jan

True. A laundry basket is much larger than the largest plant basket. He may
not have many plants either or many have different plants. I find vinyl
screening clogs with algae faster than plant debris. That was just my
experience with it.

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~ jan wrote:

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:42:27 CST, "Reel McKoi"
wrote:

I have two plant baskets wired together like clam shells. A bag? Anything
finer than the plant baskets would clog in no time.

I guess I don't understand your problem. Your pump is clogging even with
the clamshell?

I think many of the answers were not to you, but to the OP who asked for
suggestions to a pump with no protection at the time.

Vinyl screening, imho, if held away from the pump, has about the same size
openings as the mesh baskets I have seen. Really large mesh baskets are
sometimes hard to find. Thus putting the pump in a bucket as Jim has done
or laundry/tote basket and then covered with screening gives adequate
surface area for most large pumps, and keeps tiny fry out. ~ jan


That's basically mine. Never had to unclog it

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"Reel McKoi" wrote:

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"Reel McKoi" wrote:
Make a "basket" from 1/4" hardware cloth and J-clips. Watch for
clogging
if
a lot of leaves and plant debris sticks to the mesh.

How strong of a pump do you have pulling water through it?
The basket around the intake of my 1250GPH pump couldn't possibly clog
given all the area around it.
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I think ours is about 3500 gph. Plant debris is what would clog mine
quickly
without some kind of "guard" around it. There are loads of plants in
both
ponds.

Seems to me a large wireframe basket would solve that problem. Then,
just put the bag over that so no fish go in.
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I have two plant baskets wired together like clam shells. A bag? Anything
finer than the plant baskets would clog in no time.

Mesh bag over it. If area it covers is large enough, I imagine how it
would clog.

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"Reel McKoi" wrote:

"~ jan" wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:42:27 CST, "Reel McKoi"
wrote:

I have two plant baskets wired together like clam shells. A bag? Anything
finer than the plant baskets would clog in no time.

I guess I don't understand your problem. Your pump is clogging even with
the clamshell?

No Jan. The clamshell keeps the plant debris out. A finer mesh "bag" would
clog quickly.


I think many of the answers were not to you, but to the OP who asked for
suggestions to a pump with no protection at the time.

Vinyl screening, imho, if held away from the pump, has about the same size
openings as the mesh baskets I have seen.

Not here where I live. Vinyl screening is so fine it clogs with algae and
plant debris - I tried it already.

Really large mesh baskets are
sometimes hard to find. Thus putting the pump in a bucket as Jim has done
or laundey/tote basket and then covered with screening gives adequate
surface area for most large pumps, and keeps tiny fry out. ~ jan

True. A laundry basket is much larger than the largest plant basket. He may
not have many plants either or many have different plants. I find vinyl
screening clogs with algae faster than plant debris. That was just my
experience with it.

I bought my system from a guy who modified cages and pvc to make great
prefilters. Also included Venturi aeration fixtures. Mesh of bag is fine
enough to keep any fry out, but never enough to clog bag. Bag is black
plastic netting with drawstring at top.

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Kurt wrote:

I bought my system from a guy who modified cages and pvc to make great
prefilters. Also included Venturi aeration fixtures.

Does he have a website or does he do long distance jobs?

Chip

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Kurt wrote:

I bought my system from a guy who modified cages and pvc to make great
prefilters. Also included Venturi aeration fixtures.

Does he have a website or does he do long distance jobs?

Chip

Sadly, he disappeared a couple years back. I found his old pages from
wayback.com

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Have you a pic of the unit?

Jim

Phyllis and Jim wrote:
Have you a pic of the unit?

Jim

or plans?

Chip

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Phyllis and Jim wrote:

Have you a pic of the unit?

Jim

If you are referring to my post, here is original diagram of setup I
bought:

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ak/triffet.jpg

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I was refering to the setup. Thanks for the illustration.
Jim