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"Reel McKoi" wrote:

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We have a Gould sewage pump that we use to pump water to our waterfall. It
is a nice powerful pump so powerful that it sucks up our fish! For some
reason the fish really like to hang out around the pump, it must be the
current it generates or something. Anyway, is there something we could put
the pump in that will allow waterflow thru' and will keep fish safe? The
pump stands 19" tall and is about 13" wide. Thanks!
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Make a "basket" from 1/4" hardware cloth and J-clips. Watch for clogging if
a lot of leaves and plant debris sticks to the mesh.

How strong of a pump do you have pulling water through it?
The basket around the intake of my 1250GPH pump couldn't possibly clog
given all the area around it.

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"Reel McKoi" wrote:

"Goldlexus" wrote in message
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We have a Gould sewage pump that we use to pump water to our waterfall.
It
is a nice powerful pump so powerful that it sucks up our fish! For some
reason the fish really like to hang out around the pump, it must be the
current it generates or something. Anyway, is there something we could
put
the pump in that will allow waterflow thru' and w ill keep fish safe?
The
pump stands 19" tall and is about 13" wide. Thanks!
=========================
Make a "basket" from 1/4" hardware cloth and J-clips. Watch for clogging
if
a lot of leaves and plant debris sticks to the mesh.

How strong of a pump do you have pulling water through it?
The basket around the intake of my 1250GPH pump couldn't possibly clog
given all the area around it.
=====================
I think ours is about 3500gph. Plant debris is what would clog mine quickly
without some kind of "guard" around it. There are loads of plants in both
ponds.
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Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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In article ,
"Reel McKoi" wrote:

"Kurt" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Reel McKoi" wrote:

"Goldlexus" wrote in message
news:21Mzj.6006$H%3.852@trndny01...
We have a Gould sewage pump that we use to pump water to our waterfall.
It
is a nice powerful pump so powerful that it sucks up our fish! For some
reason the fish really like to hang out around the pump, it must be the
current it generates or something. Anyway, is there something we could
put
the pump in that will allow waterflow thru' and w ill keep fish safe?
The
pump stands 19" tall and is about 13" wide. Thanks!
=========================
Make a "basket" from 1/4" hardware cloth and J-clips. Watch for clogging
if
a lot of leaves and plant debris sticks to the mesh.

How strong of a pump do you have pulling water through it?
The basket around the intake of my 1250GPH pump couldn't possibly clog
given all the area around it.
=====================
I think ours is about 3500gph. Plant debris is what would clog mine quickly
without some kind of "guard" around it. There are loads of plants in both
ponds.

Seems to me a large wireframe basket would solve that problem. Then,
just put the bag over that so no fish go in.

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Our set up (5 gal bucket with a million 1/2" holes) reduces the pull
on each hole and prevents items larger than the 1/2" that the pump can
handle from getting in. Over the years NOTHING has stuck to the
holes.

Jim

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In article ,
"Reel McKoi" wrote:
Make a "basket" from 1/4" hardware cloth and J-clips. Watch for
clogging
if
a lot of leaves and plant debris sticks to the mesh.

How strong of a pump do you have pulling water through it?
The basket around the intake of my 1250GPH pump couldn't possibly clog
given all the area around it.
=====================
I think ours is about 3500 gph. Plant debris is what would clog mine
quickly
without some kind of "guard" around it. There are loads of plants in
both
ponds.

Seems to me a large wireframe basket would solve that problem. Then,
just put the bag over that so no fish go in.
==========================
I have two plant baskets wired together like clam shells. A bag? Anything
finer than the plant baskets would clog in no time.
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RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:42:27 CST, "Reel McKoi"
wrote:

I have two plant baskets wired together like clam shells. A bag? Anything
finer than the plant baskets would clog in no time.

I guess I don't understand your problem. Your pump is clogging even with
the clamshell?

I think many of the answers were not to you, but to the OP who asked for
suggestions to a pump with no protection at the time.

Vinyl screening, imho, if held away from the pump, has about the same size
openings as the mesh baskets I have seen. Really large mesh baskets are
sometimes hard to find. Thus putting the pump in a bucket as Jim has done
or laundry/tote basket and then covered with screening gives adequate
surface area for most large pumps, and keeps tiny fry out. ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

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~ jan wrote:

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:42:27 CST, "Reel McKoi"
wrote:

I have two plant baskets wired together like clam shells. A bag? Anything
finer than the plant baskets would clog in no time.

I guess I don't understand your problem. Your pump is clogging even with
the clamshell?

I think many of the answers were not to you, but to the OP who asked for
suggestions to a pump with no protection at the time.

Vinyl screening, imho, if held away from the pump, has about the same size
openings as the mesh baskets I have seen. Really large mesh baskets are
sometimes hard to find. Thus putting the pump in a bucket as Jim has done
or laundry/tote basket and then covered with screening gives adequate
surface area for most large pumps, and keeps tiny fry out. ~ jan


That's basically mine. Never had to unclog it

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"~ jan" wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:42:27 CST, "Reel McKoi"
wrote:

I have two plant baskets wired together like clam shells. A bag? Anything
finer than the plant baskets would clog in no time.

I guess I don't understand your problem. Your pump is clogging even with
the clamshell?

No Jan. The clamshell keeps the plant debris out. A finer mesh "bag" would
clog quickly.


I think many of the answers were not to you, but to the OP who asked for
suggestions to a pump with no protection at the time.

Vinyl screening, imho, if held away from the pump, has about the same size
openings as the mesh baskets I have seen.

Not here where I live. Vinyl screening is so fine it clogs with algae and
plant debris - I tried it already.

Really large mesh baskets are
sometimes hard to find. Thus putting the pump in a bucket as Jim has done
or laundey/tote basket and then covered with screening gives adequate
surface area for most large pumps, and keeps tiny fry out. ~ jan

True. A laundry basket is much larger than the largest plant basket. He may
not have many plants either or many have different plants. I find vinyl
screening clogs with algae faster than plant debris. That was just my
experience with it.

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RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö

In article ,
"Reel McKoi" wrote:

"~ jan" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:42:27 CST, "Reel McKoi"
wrote:

I have two plant baskets wired together like clam shells. A bag? Anything
finer than the plant baskets would clog in no time.

I guess I don't understand your problem. Your pump is clogging even with
the clamshell?

No Jan. The clamshell keeps the plant debris out. A finer mesh "bag" would
clog quickly.


I think many of the answers were not to you, but to the OP who asked for
suggestions to a pump with no protection at the time.

Vinyl screening, imho, if held away from the pump, has about the same size
openings as the mesh baskets I have seen.

Not here where I live. Vinyl screening is so fine it clogs with algae and
plant debris - I tried it already.

Really large mesh baskets are
sometimes hard to find. Thus putting the pump in a bucket as Jim has done
or laundey/tote basket and then covered with screening gives adequate
surface area for most large pumps, and keeps tiny fry out. ~ jan

True. A laundry basket is much larger than the largest plant basket. He may
not have many plants either or many have different plants. I find vinyl
screening clogs with algae faster than plant debris. That was just my
experience with it.

I bought my system from a guy who modified cages and pvc to make great
prefilters. Also included Venturi aeration fixtures. Mesh of bag is fine
enough to keep any fry out, but never enough to clog bag. Bag is black
plastic netting with drawstring at top.

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"Reel McKoi" wrote:

"Kurt" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Reel McKoi" wrote:
Make a "basket" from 1/4" hardware cloth and J-clips. Watch for
clogging
if
a lot of leaves and plant debris sticks to the mesh.

How strong of a pump do you have pulling water through it?
The basket around the intake of my 1250GPH pump couldn't possibly clog
given all the area around it.
=====================
I think ours is about 3500 gph. Plant debris is what would clog mine
quickly
without some kind of "guard" around it. There are loads of plants in
both
ponds.

Seems to me a large wireframe basket would solve that problem. Then,
just put the bag over that so no fish go in.
==========================
I have two plant baskets wired together like clam shells. A bag? Anything
finer than the plant baskets would clog in no time.

Mesh bag over it. If area it covers is large enough, I imagine how it
would clog.

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