On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:15:23 EDT, "Pat"
wrote:

| Baskets lined with weed fabric

What is weed fabric?

Cloth that people put down and then mulch over so weeds won't grow. Get the
cheap stuff, nothing with root inhibitors on it.

Small fish to eat mosquitos. I am mostly interested in cultivating frogs -
small green frogs - and providing amusement for local birds.

If you want frogs, don't put in fish, they eat frog spawn. At least tree
frog spawn. I'm not sure if anyone else has luck growing frogs with fish in
the pond?

very small pond, definitely under 1k gallons. I am thinking of putting it in
the lowest part of the property and letting it collect rainwater.

Easy maintenance, hopefully. We generally recommend not letting run off
flow into ponds due to all the nutrients and then green water it produces.
It is one of the biggest no no's in the books, don't put it in the lowest
part of the garden for this reason. Plus, rain water is acidic, but frogs
won't care. ~ jan
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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

~ jan wrote:

If you want frogs, don't put in fish, they eat frog spawn. At least tree
frog spawn. I'm not sure if anyone else has luck growing frogs with fish
in the pond?

I always had toads spawning in my well stocked fish pond - but I always had
Green Frogs, and I can't say I often had successful spawnings (I certainly
found occasional frog tads, but not by the hundreds like the toads).
--
derek

it is possible to set up little incubator areas using floating PVC and fine netting.
the water flows thru but the eaters do not. Ingrid

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:51:04 EDT, ~ jan wrote:
If you want frogs, don't put in fish, they eat frog spawn. At least tree
frog spawn. I'm not sure if anyone else has luck growing frogs with fish in
the pond?

On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:04:24 EDT, wrote:

it is possible to set up little incubator areas using floating PVC and fine netting.
the water flows thru but the eaters do not. Ingrid


This is true. I have been surprised that even with fish in my lily pond to
go out in the morning and be able to collect eggs. I then move them to the
kiddy pool.... course I had a raccoon who decide to pick off many of them,
so then I had to fence the kiddy pool. He even tried to climb the
unsupported fencing. Looks like a kid hung on it in one area. Needless to
say I think he gave up as no way was it going to move, but it wasn't going
to be steady enough to hoist himself over and be able to get back out. I'm
glad it was smart enough to figure that out. I'm sure I would have come out
to a PO raccoon and a destroyed kiddy pool in the AM. ~ jan
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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

it is better to have it actually in the big pond, less chance of predators or
overheating,etc. also more food floating thru. Ingrid

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:29:27 EDT, ~ jan wrote:
I then move them to the
kiddy pool....

On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:57:35 EDT, wrote:

it is better to have it actually in the big pond, less chance of predators or
overheating,etc. also more food floating thru. Ingrid

Not with fish, tree frog taddies are tasty. Kiddy pool and stock tank only
get partial sun, so are not getting too hot. They are protected on one side
by the motion sprinkler and fencing on the other. (Kiddy pool is
surrounded.)

But in general, I do agree, they were safer in the lily pond, but can't
have that till neighbors move.... and now I'm hoping to raise wakins in
there... so that isn't an option regardless. ~ jan
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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us