Background info first
Pond is 24 x 15 x 3.5(sloping sides). We usually just leave the
"spitter" going to keep a small area ice free, the rest freezes to a
depth of 12". Snow is usually somewhere between 2-3' deep from Dec to
Mar. Temps can get as low as -38c(-36f), but generally stay around
-25c(-14f) or so. Until this year we would just sink plants that are
not able to withstand freezing(iris and a few floating lilies) and the
fish and frogs were on their own. Now the fish are nothing fancy just
a few "feeders" and a couple of Shubumkin that were thrown in to
provide colour . They are now 3 years old 4-6" long with gorgeous
colour and this year have produced a LARGE number of fry, much more
than usual. The thing is, I think even the Shubumkin reproduced this
year and I would like to try and overwinter these guys inside. I have
a few tanks of various sizes but am unsure as to ratio of fry to water
and also as to whether I need to heat or not. The fry are only 1" long
so not large at all and as the pond never reached much more than
21c(70f) according to the floating thermometre, I am unsure how to
proceed. Any information you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Elaine

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Background info first
Pond is 24 x 15 x 3.5(sloping sides). We usually just leave the
"spitter" going to keep a small area ice free, the rest freezes to a
depth of 12". Snow is usually somewhere between 2-3' deep from Dec to
Mar. Temps can get as low as -38c(-36f), but generally stay around
-25c(-14f) or so. Until this year we would just sink plants that are
not able to withstand freezing(iris and a few floating lilies) and the
fish and frogs were on their own. Now the fish are nothing fancy just
a few "feeders" and a couple of Shubumkin that were thrown in to
provide colour . They are now 3 years old 4-6" long with gorgeous
colour and this year have produced a LARGE number of fry, much more
than usual. The thing is, I think even the Shubumkin reproduced this
year and I would like to try and overwinter these guys inside.

## Try to allow at least 15 gallons per 6" goldfish while inside. You need
excellent filtering as well. GF pass a lot of waste.

I have
a few tanks of various sizes but am unsure as to ratio of fry to water
and also as to whether I need to heat or not. The fry are only 1" long
so not large at all and as the pond never reached much more than
21c(70f) according to the floating thermometre, I am unsure how to
proceed. Any information you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

## Fry should do OK at perhaps 3 per 10 gallons of well filtered water.
You may want to ask on the GF group or Aquarium groups. I think most people
here keep their pond fish outside for the winter.
--
Reel McKoi.... frugal ponding since 1995...
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy
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elaine wrote:
Background info first
Pond is 24 x 15 x 3.5(sloping sides). We usually just leave the
"spitter" going to keep a small area ice free, the rest freezes to a
depth of 12". Snow is usually somewhere between 2-3' deep from Dec to
Mar. Temps can get as low as -38c(-36f), but generally stay around
-25c(-14f) or so. Until this year we would just sink plants that are
not able to withstand freezing(iris and a few floating lilies) and the
fish and frogs were on their own. Now the fish are nothing fancy just
a few "feeders" and a couple of Shubumkin that were thrown in to
provide colour . They are now 3 years old 4-6" long with gorgeous
colour and this year have produced a LARGE number of fry, much more
than usual. The thing is, I think even the Shubumkin reproduced this
year and I would like to try and overwinter these guys inside. I have
a few tanks of various sizes but am unsure as to ratio of fry to water
and also as to whether I need to heat or not. The fry are only 1" long
so not large at all and as the pond never reached much more than
21c(70f) according to the floating thermometre, I am unsure how to
proceed. Any information you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Elaine

Room temp is fine.
filtration is more important than over-all size of the tank when
dealing with fish to water ratios.. I'm not suggesting 1000 fish in a
10 Gallon tank but but 4 or 5 1" fish per gallon doesn't seem
unreasonable. If you have a lot of filtration you can probably safely
streach that (just don't over feed on top of over stocking. I have
found that it is easy to add extra filters or more frequent water
changes.

Pay attention to your water tests, if you have extra tanks it isn't
hard to split the population of a tank if you have to.