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Corn is one of the best and most frequently used baits to catch carp
with in this region......Can't get much cheaper, a small can of whole
kernel corn, at Winn Dixie for about 30 cents has enough kernels of
corn in it to last an entire weekend. No messy baits or smells either.
The also use small chunks of ivory soap cut and baited on a hook as
well and it to is a fine bait for carp as well as catfish.....so why
would a carp pickup and eat a chunk of ivory bar soap....Heard dial
also works fine) I can see corn, as lots of regions have rivers
bordering fam lands where corn is planted same with rice, and wheats
etc, and I am sure spillage on the ground and surface waters carry
lots of this spilt grains to rivers adn streams, as well as the barge
and boat loading docks where the fill up those freighters etc, there
is always corn and such in the waters. Most if not all fish mouth
what they intend to eat, so why or whata is in soap to entice them to
consume it? Yea, fish eat anything and everything, but its still not a
reason to feed em improper foods if they are fish that are in our
care...In the wilds and what they find to consume is one thing, in
captivity its another. Then again most anything will eat almost
anything if they are hungry enough or not getting proper nourishment
from what they are being fed......they sill consume foods seeking
what they lack even if they have full bellies of garbage.




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Tristin wrote:
Corn is one of the best and most frequently used baits to catch carp
with in this region......Can't get much cheaper, a small can of whole
kernel corn, at Winn Dixie for about 30 cents has enough kernels of
corn in it to last an entire weekend. No messy baits or smells either.
The also use small chunks of ivory soap cut and baited on a hook as
well and it to is a fine bait for carp as well as catfish.....so why
would a carp pickup and eat a chunk of ivory bar soap....Heard dial
also works fine) I can see corn, as lots of regions have rivers
bordering fam lands where corn is planted same with rice, and wheats
etc, and I am sure spillage on the ground and surface waters carry
lots of this spilt grains to rivers adn streams, as well as the barge
and boat loading docks where the fill up those freighters etc, there
is always corn and such in the waters. Most if not all fish mouth
what they intend to eat, so why or whata is in soap to entice them to
consume it? Yea, fish eat anything and everything, but its still not a
reason to feed em improper foods if they are fish that are in our
care...In the wilds and what they find to consume is one thing, in
captivity its another. Then again most anything will eat almost
anything if they are hungry enough or not getting proper nourishment
from what they are being fed......they sill consume foods seeking
what they lack even if they have full bellies of garbage.


Hmmmm....fish eating soap - not the most obvious fish bait/food it has
to be said. I'm not familiar with the brand you are talking about - is
it scented? My guess would be that the mentality is if it looks like it
could be eaten they will give it a try....

Gill
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Ivory Soap is a snow white colored bar of soap that has a scent but
its not a perfumed type scent. Its scent remimds me of old lard for
some reason, and its about the only bar soap that I know of that
floats.......I hate the stuff personally. Its used big time though
like I stated for fishing in these parts andis among some of the most
widely used baits for in a fish trap or on a trot line too.....(trot
line is a fishing line placed across a stream with baited hooks spaced
off it.


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Tristin wrote:
Corn is one of the best and most frequently used baits to catch carp
with in this region......Can't get much cheaper, a small can of whole
kernel corn, at Winn Dixie for about 30 cents has enough kernels of
corn in it to last an entire weekend. No messy baits or smells either.
The also use small chunks of ivory soap cut and baited on a hook as
well and it to is a fine bait for carp as well as catfish.....so why
would a carp pickup and eat a chunk of ivory bar soap....Heard dial
also works fine) I can see corn, as lots of regions have rivers
bordering fam lands where corn is planted same with rice, and wheats
etc, and I am sure spillage on the ground and surface waters carry
lots of this spilt grains to rivers adn streams, as well as the barge
and boat loading docks where the fill up those freighters etc, there
is always corn and such in the waters. Most if not all fish mouth
what they intend to eat, so why or whata is in soap to entice them to
consume it? Yea, fish eat anything and everything, but its still not a
reason to feed em improper foods if they are fish that are in our
care...In the wilds and what they find to consume is one thing, in
captivity its another. Then again most anything will eat almost
anything if they are hungry enough or not getting proper nourishment
from what they are being fed......they sill consume foods seeking
what they lack even if they have full bellies of garbage.


Hmmmm....fish eating soap - not the most obvious fish bait/food it has
to be said. I'm not familiar with the brand you are talking about - is
it scented? My guess would be that the mentality is if it looks like it
could be eaten they will give it a try....

Gill



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"Tristin" wrote in message
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Ivory Soap is a snow white colored bar of soap that has a scent but
its not a perfumed type scent. Its scent remimds me of old lard for
some reason,


That's because it's "99 44/100% pure" sodium tallowate, which is animal
fat boiled with lye. It floats because they whip air into it during
manufacture.

"According to legend, a worker accidentally left the mixing machine on
too long and the company chose to sell the supposedly ruined batch in hopes
that the buying public wouldn't notice. When appreciative letters about the
new, floating soap inundated the company, P&G ordered the extended mix time
as a standard setting."

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Don't know how old yo are, but they used to have commericals on with
dozens of those bars of ivory floating around a bathrub with a kid in
it. The bars all had little sails made from toothpicks and
paper......and their ad saying was Ivory Soap, 99 and 44 one hundred
percent pure love! How is soap Love? I hated the smell as well as the
way it made suds.....and to me it was like washing with a bar of hard
lard.......Even their laundry detergent Ivory Flakes sucked......about
all it was good for was making artifical snow for decorations during
the christmas holiday season.
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"Tristin" wrote in message
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Ivory Soap is a snow white colored bar of soap that has a scent but
its not a perfumed type scent. Its scent remimds me of old lard for
some reason,

That's because it's "99 44/100% pure" sodium tallowate, which is animal
fat boiled with lye. It floats because they whip air into it during
manufacture.

"According to legend, a worker accidentally left the mixing machine on
too long and the company chose to sell the supposedly ruined batch in hopes
that the buying public wouldn't notice. When appreciative letters about the
new, floating soap inundated the company, P&G ordered the extended mix time
as a standard setting."

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I don't recall that particular commercial, but I remember the "pure"
claim in many of them. It never stated and is still missing from their
website that it is, in fact, almost pure lard (as are most soaps).
Most of what I learned about soap was from Granny Clampett, boiling hog
fat and lye out by the cement pond........

"Tristin" wrote in message
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Don't know how old yo are, but they used to have commericals on with
dozens of those bars of ivory floating around a bathrub with a kid in
it. The bars all had little sails made from toothpicks and
paper......and their ad saying was Ivory Soap, 99 and 44 one hundred
percent pure love! How is soap Love? I hated the smell as well as the
way it made suds.....and to me it was like washing with a bar of hard
lard.......Even their laundry detergent Ivory Flakes sucked......about
all it was good for was making artifical snow for decorations during
the christmas holiday season.


On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:22:48 -0600, "cat daddy"
wrote:


"Tristin" wrote in message
m...


Ivory Soap is a snow white colored bar of soap that has a scent but
its not a perfumed type scent. Its scent remimds me of old lard for
some reason,

That's because it's "99 44/100% pure" sodium tallowate, which is

animal
fat boiled with lye. It floats because they whip air into it during
manufacture.

"According to legend, a worker accidentally left the mixing machine

on
too long and the company chose to sell the supposedly ruined batch in

hopes
that the buying public wouldn't notice. When appreciative letters

about the
new, floating soap inundated the company, P&G ordered the extended mix

time
as a standard setting."

snip



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