Hi all, I love this newsgroup. There are so many good ideas and so many
thoughtful folks with those ideas. I hope you can help me. I was given ten
large GF with long flowing tailfins. I'm not even sure what kind they
are.They are about 8-10" long including the tail. A little more than a week
ago, I was taking roll call and noticed that I lost one of the larger fish.
I looked all over the pond which is only 14' by 18" irregularly
shaped.......Nothing. I gave up figuring a creature got it. Last night, I
saw a baby fish dart through one of the lighted areas of the pond and got a
flashlight to investigate closer. I was looking at the edges of the pond and
spotted something orange wedged between a plant pot and the rocks on the
edge of a very shallowing end of the pond. It was the head of a
fish.....and the mouth was moving!!!! I moved the pot and the fish just laid
there in the corner of the pond. I nudged it out and it weakly swam away. It
had a lot of black around the gills and the edges of its fins as well as
black spots on his back. Then all of the other fish started chasing it and
it looked very disoriented......probably because it was in the same position
for more than a week. It looked tired. Today it seems to be doing better and
the other fish are leaving it alone but I am concerned about it discolored
fins, gills and scales. None of the other fish look anything like this so I
ruled out parasites. Could it be simply that it was motionless for a long
time in a corner that had some leaf debris on the bottom and that it was
next to a plant pot? I don't know if I should remove him or not because I
don't know what caused the balck coloration. Ant thoughts or ideas would be
greatly appreciated.

Randy

Poor Fishie! It sounds to me like it is a SHE ... and She
has been chased almost to death. Think Spawning. The
black sounds like wounds that are healing.
She needs a Rest. If the other fish are leaving her alone I may
think about leaving her in the pond. If they still want to chase
her, then move her to a 100 gallon Quarantine Tank... with lots
of Oxygen and some salt to .01% - .03%....
Good Luck !!

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"rlb827" wrote in message
et...
Hi all, I love this newsgroup. There are so many good ideas and so many
thoughtful folks with those ideas. I hope you can help me. I was given ten
large GF with long flowing tailfins. I'm not even sure what kind they
are.They are about 8-10" long including the tail. A little more than a
week
ago, I was taking roll call and noticed that I lost one of the larger
fish.
I looked all over the pond which is only 14' by 18" irregularly
shaped.......Nothing. I gave up figuring a creature got it. Last night, I
saw a baby fish dart through one of the lighted areas of the pond and got
a
flashlight to investigate closer. I was looking at the edges of the pond
and
spotted something orange wedged between a plant pot and the rocks on the
edge of a very shallowing end of the pond. It was the head of a
fish.....and the mouth was moving!!!! I moved the pot and the fish just
laid
there in the corner of the pond. I nudged it out and it weakly swam away.
It
had a lot of black around the gills and the edges of its fins as well as
black spots on his back. Then all of the other fish started chasing it and
it looked very disoriented......probably because it was in the same
position
for more than a week. It looked tired. Today it seems to be doing better
and
the other fish are leaving it alone but I am concerned about it discolored
fins, gills and scales. None of the other fish look anything like this so
I
ruled out parasites. Could it be simply that it was motionless for a long
time in a corner that had some leaf debris on the bottom and that it was
next to a plant pot? I don't know if I should remove him or not because I
don't know what caused the balck coloration. Ant thoughts or ideas would
be
greatly appreciated.

Randy

A little salt (0.1%) in the pond can help a stressed fish and won't hurt
plants. 0.9 pounds per 100 gallons, non-iodized. ~ jan

Hi all, I love this newsgroup. There are so many good ideas and so many
thoughtful folks with those ideas. I hope you can help me. I was given ten
large GF with long flowing tailfins. I'm not even sure what kind they
are.They are about 8-10" long including the tail. A little more than a week
ago, I was taking roll call and noticed that I lost one of the larger fish.
I looked all over the pond which is only 14' by 18" irregularly
shaped.......Nothing. I gave up figuring a creature got it. Last night, I
saw a baby fish dart through one of the lighted areas of the pond and got a
flashlight to investigate closer. I was looking at the edges of the pond and
spotted something orange wedged between a plant pot and the rocks on the
edge of a very shallowing end of the pond. It was the head of a
fish.....and the mouth was moving!!!! I moved the pot and the fish just laid
there in the corner of the pond. I nudged it out and it weakly swam away. It
had a lot of black around the gills and the edges of its fins as well as
black spots on his back. Then all of the other fish started chasing it and
it looked very disoriented......probably because it was in the same position
for more than a week. It looked tired. Today it seems to be doing better and
the other fish are leaving it alone but I am concerned about it discolored
fins, gills and scales. None of the other fish look anything like this so I
ruled out parasites. Could it be simply that it was motionless for a long
time in a corner that had some leaf debris on the bottom and that it was
next to a plant pot? I don't know if I should remove him or not because I
don't know what caused the balck coloration. Ant thoughts or ideas would be
greatly appreciated. Randy

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fish could have been caught in there. get the fish out and into quarantine, do a
salt dip http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/p...se/disease.htm
make sure there is good aeration. add a bit of salt to the water, make sure it stays
clean. move the plant so this doesnt happen again.
move the fish back once it is swimming well again.
Ingrid

"rlb827" wrote:

Hi all, I love this newsgroup. There are so many good ideas and so many
thoughtful folks with those ideas. I hope you can help me. I was given ten
large GF with long flowing tailfins. I'm not even sure what kind they
are.They are about 8-10" long including the tail. A little more than a week
ago, I was taking roll call and noticed that I lost one of the larger fish.
I looked all over the pond which is only 14' by 18" irregularly
shaped.......Nothing. I gave up figuring a creature got it. Last night, I
saw a baby fish dart through one of the lighted areas of the pond and got a
flashlight to investigate closer. I was looking at the edges of the pond and
spotted something orange wedged between a plant pot and the rocks on the
edge of a very shallowing end of the pond. It was the head of a
fish.....and the mouth was moving!!!! I moved the pot and the fish just laid
there in the corner of the pond. I nudged it out and it weakly swam away. It
had a lot of black around the gills and the edges of its fins as well as
black spots on his back. Then all of the other fish started chasing it and
it looked very disoriented......probably because it was in the same position
for more than a week. It looked tired. Today it seems to be doing better and
the other fish are leaving it alone but I am concerned about it discolored
fins, gills and scales. None of the other fish look anything like this so I
ruled out parasites. Could it be simply that it was motionless for a long
time in a corner that had some leaf debris on the bottom and that it was
next to a plant pot? I don't know if I should remove him or not because I
don't know what caused the balck coloration. Ant thoughts or ideas would be
greatly appreciated.

Randy




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Thanks to those who responded. Things have stabilized now and I am watching
the situation very closely. Your help will used and I'll hope for the best
Thanks again
Randy



nedra" wrote in message
rthlink.net...
Poor Fishie! It sounds to me like it is a SHE ... and She
has been chased almost to death. Think Spawning. The
black sounds like wounds that are healing.
She needs a Rest. If the other fish are leaving her alone I may
think about leaving her in the pond. If they still want to chase
her, then move her to a 100 gallon Quarantine Tank... with lots
of Oxygen and some salt to .01% - .03%....
Good Luck !!

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"rlb827" wrote in message
et...
Hi all, I love this newsgroup. There are so many good ideas and so many
thoughtful folks with those ideas. I hope you can help me. I was given
ten
large GF with long flowing tailfins. I'm not even sure what kind they
are.They are about 8-10" long including the tail. A little more than a
week
ago, I was taking roll call and noticed that I lost one of the larger
fish.
I looked all over the pond which is only 14' by 18" irregularly
shaped.......Nothing. I gave up figuring a creature got it. Last night,
I
saw a baby fish dart through one of the lighted areas of the pond and
got
a
flashlight to investigate closer. I was looking at the edges of the pond
and
spotted something orange wedged between a plant pot and the rocks on the
edge of a very shallowing end of the pond. It was the head of a
fish.....and the mouth was moving!!!! I moved the pot and the fish just
laid
there in the corner of the pond. I nudged it out and it weakly swam
away.
It
had a lot of black around the gills and the edges of its fins as well
as
black spots on his back. Then all of the other fish started chasing it
and
it looked very disoriented......probably because it was in the same
position
for more than a week. It looked tired. Today it seems to be doing better
and
the other fish are leaving it alone but I am concerned about it
discolored
fins, gills and scales. None of the other fish look anything like this
so
I
ruled out parasites. Could it be simply that it was motionless for a
long
time in a corner that had some leaf debris on the bottom and that it was
next to a plant pot? I don't know if I should remove him or not because
I
don't know what caused the balck coloration. Ant thoughts or ideas would
be
greatly appreciated.

Randy

Thanks to those who responded. Things have stabilized now and I am watching
the situation very closely. Your help will used and I'll hope for the best
Thanks again
Randy



nedra" wrote in message
rthlink.net...
Poor Fishie! It sounds to me like it is a SHE ... and She
has been chased almost to death. Think Spawning. The
black sounds like wounds that are healing.
She needs a Rest. If the other fish are leaving her alone I may
think about leaving her in the pond. If they still want to chase
her, then move her to a 100 gallon Quarantine Tank... with lots
of Oxygen and some salt to .01% - .03%....
Good Luck !!

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"rlb827" wrote in message
et...
Hi all, I love this newsgroup. There are so many good ideas and so many
thoughtful folks with those ideas. I hope you can help me. I was given
ten
large GF with long flowing tailfins. I'm not even sure what kind they
are.They are about 8-10" long including the tail. A little more than a
week
ago, I was taking roll call and noticed that I lost one of the larger
fish.
I looked all over the pond which is only 14' by 18" irregularly
shaped.......Nothing. I gave up figuring a creature got it. Last night,
I
saw a baby fish dart through one of the lighted areas of the pond and
got
a
flashlight to investigate closer. I was looking at the edges of the pond
and
spotted something orange wedged between a plant pot and the rocks on the
edge of a very shallowing end of the pond. It was the head of a
fish.....and the mouth was moving!!!! I moved the pot and the fish just
laid
there in the corner of the pond. I nudged it out and it weakly swam
away.
It
had a lot of black around the gills and the edges of its fins as well
as
black spots on his back. Then all of the other fish started chasing it
and
it looked very disoriented......probably because it was in the same
position
for more than a week. It looked tired. Today it seems to be doing better
and
the other fish are leaving it alone but I am concerned about it
discolored
fins, gills and scales. None of the other fish look anything like this
so
I
ruled out parasites. Could it be simply that it was motionless for a
long
time in a corner that had some leaf debris on the bottom and that it was
next to a plant pot? I don't know if I should remove him or not because
I
don't know what caused the balck coloration. Ant thoughts or ideas would
be
greatly appreciated.

Randy