Yeah they used an acylic admixture + cement. It's common with zoos. A
commerical product is called Thoroseal and you can buy it at home depot.

"Fred" wrote in message
...

"Sam Hopkins" wrote in message
.. .
Man you might be pushing it with 5-6 blocks. You can stick them in and
then
watch your PH. Concrete in water can quickly raise the PH to 12 or 13
which
as I found out will literally dissolve fish.


"claude rogers" wrote in message
...
The pond is appoximately 950 gallons.



"Sam Hopkins" wrote in message
news:bf4dpn$m5 That poor fishy stuck in the milk crate has got
me
think'in. I am
using
milk crates for plant stands, my fish are still fairly small, less
than
10
inches, someone said they use concrete blocks treated or acid
washed
or
painted or something. Exactly what did you do to them to prevent
leeching
lime "I think it's lime" I thought about painting them black but
with
what
kind of paint.....Thoughts...I don't want my fishies stuck in a
milk
crate
hole...or...is there an alternative to concrete....Thanks Claude
Our back yard pond is about 12' x 8' x 2' and is built entirely above
ground
on a concrete slab. The walls are mortared large stone and the chimney up
to
the waterfall is made entirely of concrete block. I had this built
commercially and they painted it with something that sealed it as I have
never had problems (nor have my fish). It has been in for about 3 years
now
and we have never lost a fish to bad water. Lost several to bad birds
before
we netted the pond. Green Herons were the worst as they are extremely bold
and very quick. Fred

Well, our current pond(s) (prefab) is a actually set into a raised flower
bed (you can see pics in my link), so I don't know that it would be any diff
to do another further up on my lawn. Don't think I can talk the hubby into
it anyway, but it's a dream. I do take our fish in during the winter
tho. Our pond does freeze (we don't empty it... a friend has an identical
one and when she drained hers, it popped out of the ground. LOL) and gets
completely covered by snow (couldn't even tell we had one this past winter
with about 5' + of snow on top of it). Just don't know if we could put that
much weight on our backyard as there is a leechfield there.

--
LN in NH (new gardener in zone 5)
http://photos.yahoo.com/lns_obsessed

"Lee Brouillet" wrote in message
...
UP is nice, but your signature line indicates you're in Zone 5. If you're
planning to do an above ground pond, you will need to find space inside to
over-winter your fish. Further, you will probably need to drain the pond
to
avoid damage from ice. Now, this is coming from someone in Central FL -
where the only ice I see is in a "cold tall one" - but I think that's a
safe
bet.

Lee

"LN (remove NOSPAM)" wrote in message
...
Do you have any pictures of your pond? I don't have anymore digable
space
in
my backyard and am thinking of building UP.

--
LN in NH (new gardener in zone 5)
photos.yahoo.com/lns_obsessed

Found an alternative solution to my problem, it is gutter gaurd, it plastic
mesh with very small holes, comes in 12 foot roles, it's also
black......Tried one milk crate today as a test, basically wrapped around
the outside of the crate and tie wrapped the mesh to the outside, so water
still passes thru. Going to remove the center of one the sides of the crate
on the next one and leave about a 6 inch square hole in the side so they can
still get in, and mesh the rest, kind of a safe cubby for protection. We'll
see how this works out. By the way the mesh is only a couple bucks, more
than enough to do 2 crates.....Claude

Found an alternative solution to my problem, it is gutter gaurd, it plastic
mesh with very small holes, comes in 12 foot roles, it's also
black......Tried one milk crate today as a test, basically wrapped around
the outside of the crate and tie wrapped the mesh to the outside, so water
still passes thru. Going to remove the center of one the sides of the crate
on the next one and leave about a 6 inch square hole in the side so they can
still get in, and mesh the rest, kind of a safe cubby for protection. We'll
see how this works out. By the way the mesh is only a couple bucks, more
than enough to do 2 crates.....Claude

Found an alternative solution to my problem, it is gutter gaurd, it plastic
mesh with very small holes, comes in 12 foot roles, it's also
black......Tried one milk crate today as a test, basically wrapped around
the outside of the crate and tie wrapped the mesh to the outside, so water
still passes thru. Going to remove the center of one the sides of the crate
on the next one and leave about a 6 inch square hole in the side so they can
still get in, and mesh the rest, kind of a safe cubby for protection. We'll
see how this works out. By the way the mesh is only a couple bucks, more
than enough to do 2 crates.....Claude

Found an alternative solution to my problem, it is gutter gaurd, it plastic
mesh with very small holes, comes in 12 foot roles, it's also
black......Tried one milk crate today as a test, basically wrapped around
the outside of the crate and tie wrapped the mesh to the outside, so water
still passes thru. Going to remove the center of one the sides of the crate
on the next one and leave about a 6 inch square hole in the side so they can
still get in, and mesh the rest, kind of a safe cubby for protection. We'll
see how this works out. By the way the mesh is only a couple bucks, more
than enough to do 2 crates.....Claude

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:31:19 -0400, "claude rogers"
wrote:

That poor fishy stuck in the milk crate has got me think'in. I am using
milk crates for plant stands, my fish are still fairly small, less than 10
inches, someone said they use concrete blocks treated or acid washed or
painted or something. Exactly what did you do to them to prevent leeching
lime "I think it's lime" I thought about painting them black but with what
kind of paint.....Thoughts...I don't want my fishies stuck in a milk crate
hole...or...is there an alternative to concrete....Thanks Claude


Claude,

I have a dozen milk crates in my 2000 gallon pond. The sides of the
crates have been removed and do not present an obstruction or hazard
to the fish. Never had a fish get caught in a milk crate. Here is a
link to my page on crates: http://bmoke.freeyellow.com/cppg027.htm

Bill M.

Great idea there Bill.....Looks like I'm breaking out the saws all and
propane torch.....Thanks Claude

Smart idea to cut out the sides like that. All the benefits and none of the
detractions!

Lee

"Fish Head" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:31:19 -0400, "claude rogers"
wrote:

That poor fishy stuck in the milk crate has got me think'in. I am using
milk crates for plant stands, my fish are still fairly small, less than
10
inches, someone said they use concrete blocks treated or acid washed or
painted or something. Exactly what did you do to them to prevent
leeching
lime "I think it's lime" I thought about painting them black but with
what
kind of paint.....Thoughts...I don't want my fishies stuck in a milk
crate
hole...or...is there an alternative to concrete....Thanks Claude


Claude,

I have a dozen milk crates in my 2000 gallon pond. The sides of the
crates have been removed and do not present an obstruction or hazard
to the fish. Never had a fish get caught in a milk crate. Here is a
link to my page on crates: http://bmoke.freeyellow.com/cppg027.htm

Bill M.

Lee Brouillet wrote:
Smart idea to cut out the sides like that. All the benefits and none of the
detractions!

Lee

"Fish Head" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:31:19 -0400, "claude rogers"
wrote:


That poor fishy stuck in the milk crate has got me think'in. I am using
milk crates for plant stands, my fish are still fairly small, less than

10

inches, someone said they use concrete blocks treated or acid washed or
painted or something. Exactly what did you do to them to prevent

leeching

lime "I think it's lime" I thought about painting them black but with

what

kind of paint.....Thoughts...I don't want my fishies stuck in a milk

crate

hole...or...is there an alternative to concrete....Thanks Claude


Claude,

I have a dozen milk crates in my 2000 gallon pond. The sides of the
crates have been removed and do not present an obstruction or hazard
to the fish. Never had a fish get caught in a milk crate. Here is a
link to my page on crates: http://bmoke.freeyellow.com/cppg027.htm

Bill M.




There is one drawback. The crates are weakened by doing
this and have a tendency to collapse with heavy plants.
This happened with my cattails. So be warned.

--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/

Interesting and good idea! I can cut enough out to alleviate the danger!

?

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"Fish Head" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:31:19 -0400, "claude rogers"
wrote:

That poor fishy stuck in the milk crate has got me think'in. I am using
milk crates for plant stands, my fish are still fairly small, less than
10
inches, someone said they use concrete blocks treated or acid washed or
painted or something. Exactly what did you do to them to prevent
leeching
lime "I think it's lime" I thought about painting them black but with
what
kind of paint.....Thoughts...I don't want my fishies stuck in a milk
crate
hole...or...is there an alternative to concrete....Thanks Claude


Claude,

I have a dozen milk crates in my 2000 gallon pond. The sides of the
crates have been removed and do not present an obstruction or hazard
to the fish. Never had a fish get caught in a milk crate. Here is a
link to my page on crates: http://bmoke.freeyellow.com/cppg027.htm

Bill M.

I tried this and by the time you remove enough supports for the koi to get
through, the milk crates were too week to hold up the lilies.

--
Wendy* in N. California,
"If thine enemy wrong thee, buy each of his children a drum." - Chinese
Proverb