Hi, I live in Ontario, Canada and it can get cold here in the winter, -20.
I have a small pond around 200 gal, 24 inches deep. I have some goldfish and
plants (hardy lily, pickeral rush, hyacinth, water iris). At what
temperature should I begin to bring the fish in. As for the plants, which
will survive outdoors and which should I bring indoors. As for the pond
itself, how would I prepare it? Thanks.

"Scrapster1" wrote in message
.. .
Hi, I live in Ontario, Canada and it can get cold here in the winter, -20.
I have a small pond around 200 gal, 24 inches deep. I have some goldfish
and
plants (hardy lily, pickeral rush, hyacinth, water iris). At what
temperature should I begin to bring the fish in. As for the plants, which
will survive outdoors and which should I bring indoors. As for the pond
itself, how would I prepare it? Thanks.

If you are going to bring the fish in for the winter then make sure you do
it before the water temp falls below about 55 - that's when they start to
"shut down" & it would be more stressful to move them after that.

Dunno about the plants

I.

"Scrapster1" wrote in message
.. .
Hi, I live in Ontario, Canada and it can get cold here in the winter, -20.
I have a small pond around 200 gal, 24 inches deep. I have some goldfish
and
plants (hardy lily, pickeral rush, hyacinth, water iris). At what
temperature should I begin to bring the fish in. As for the plants, which
will survive outdoors and which should I bring indoors. As for the pond
itself, how would I prepare it? Thanks.

"Scrapster1" wrote in message
.. .
Hi, I live in Ontario, Canada and it can get cold here in the winter, -20.
I have a small pond around 200 gal, 24 inches deep. I have some goldfish
and
plants (hardy lily, pickeral rush, hyacinth, water iris). At what
temperature should I begin to bring the fish in. As for the plants, which
will survive outdoors and which should I bring indoors. As for the pond
itself, how would I prepare it? Thanks.

I live in Whitby. Approx 200 gal pond and about 28 in. deep except for plant
shelves. This will be my second winter. I set the plants (pickeral rush,
hyacinth) on the bottom. Left my two Koi in the pond. Set a pot on the
bottom on its side for additional shelter for them. I used an air tube with
open end set about 8 in. below the surface as a bubbler. It bubbled all
winter. Even when ice covered it bubbled up and out the edge of the pond.
The fish and plants all survived fine. Last winter was unusually cold and a
good test I think so I plan to do same this year.
Don
"Scrapster1" wrote in message
.. .
Hi, I live in Ontario, Canada and it can get cold here in the winter, -20.
I have a small pond around 200 gal, 24 inches deep. I have some goldfish
and
plants (hardy lily, pickeral rush, hyacinth, water iris). At what
temperature should I begin to bring the fish in. As for the plants, which
will survive outdoors and which should I bring indoors. As for the pond
itself, how would I prepare it? Thanks.

Curious.. why is that? I would think that if they were "shut down" that it
would be akin to being on tranqs... that is less reactive and less stressed.
DKat

"Iain Miller" wrote in message
...

If you are going to bring the fish in for the winter then make sure you do
it before the water temp falls below about 55 - that's when they start to
"shut down" & it would be more stressful to move them after that.

Dunno about the plants

I.

Your Hyacinth survived? I thought they were tropicals?

I'm out in Brampton, 750 gallons give or take, depth only 24". I dropped my
pickerel, hardy lilies, and a few others to the bottom of the pond for the
winter, all survived fine. The Cardinal plants were buried in the garden bed
and mulched, they never came back. All my hyacinth get mulched as I thought
they don't survive our winters.

I used one of the 100 watt de-icers, did the job last year.

"Don Falconer" wrote in message
ble.rogers.com...
I live in Whitby. Approx 200 gal pond and about 28 in. deep except for
plant
shelves. This will be my second winter. I set the plants (pickeral rush,
hyacinth) on the bottom. Left my two Koi in the pond. Set a pot on the
bottom on its side for additional shelter for them. I used an air tube
with
open end set about 8 in. below the surface as a bubbler. It bubbled all
winter. Even when ice covered it bubbled up and out the edge of the pond.
The fish and plants all survived fine. Last winter was unusually cold and
a
good test I think so I plan to do same this year.
Don
"Scrapster1" wrote in message
.. .
Hi, I live in Ontario, Canada and it can get cold here in the
winter, -20.
I have a small pond around 200 gal, 24 inches deep. I have some goldfish
and
plants (hardy lily, pickeral rush, hyacinth, water iris). At what
temperature should I begin to bring the fish in. As for the plants,
which
will survive outdoors and which should I bring indoors. As for the pond
itself, how would I prepare it? Thanks.

Right you are. Hyacinth would not/did not survive.

"Ian" wrote in message
news
Your Hyacinth survived? I thought they were tropicals?

I'm out in Brampton, 750 gallons give or take, depth only 24". I dropped
my
pickerel, hardy lilies, and a few others to the bottom of the pond for the
winter, all survived fine. The Cardinal plants were buried in the garden
bed
and mulched, they never came back. All my hyacinth get mulched as I
thought
they don't survive our winters.

I used one of the 100 watt de-icers, did the job last year.

"Don Falconer" wrote in message
ble.rogers.com...
I live in Whitby. Approx 200 gal pond and about 28 in. deep except for
plant
shelves. This will be my second winter. I set the plants (pickeral rush,
hyacinth) on the bottom. Left my two Koi in the pond. Set a pot on the
bottom on its side for additional shelter for them. I used an air tube
with
open end set about 8 in. below the surface as a bubbler. It bubbled all
winter. Even when ice covered it bubbled up and out the edge of the
pond.
The fish and plants all survived fine. Last winter was unusually cold
and
a
good test I think so I plan to do same this year.
Don
"Scrapster1" wrote in message
.. .
Hi, I live in Ontario, Canada and it can get cold here in the
winter, -20.
I have a small pond around 200 gal, 24 inches deep. I have some
goldfish
and
plants (hardy lily, pickeral rush, hyacinth, water iris). At what
temperature should I begin to bring the fish in. As for the plants,
which
will survive outdoors and which should I bring indoors. As for the
pond
itself, how would I prepare it? Thanks.

Right you are. Hyacinth would not/did not survive

I heard of some one in zone 6 who dropped hyacinth to 3 feet and it
overwintered ...gonna try it Jerri

http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/JerrisPond

I am in 7 and it does ice and get cold for weeks at a time. The
original hyacinth someone sent me 13 months ago, i tied to a brick and
dropped it in my 70 gallon preform and it grew 11 more this spring. I
have thrown out all by 3, and will sink them again when cold
threatens. You may as well try it.





On 22 Sep 2003 13:56:09 GMT, (Jerrispond) wrote:

Right you are. Hyacinth would not/did not survive

I heard of some one in zone 6 who dropped hyacinth to 3 feet and it
overwintered ...gonna try it Jerri

http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/JerrisPond

Can you actually drop the hyacinth in though to bury them for next year or
should they be taken indoors? I have quite a few that purchased, and quite a
few more left from growing over this past summer - it would certainly be a
shame to see them die off and not recover. I see by reading that a fellow
overturned a pot and set the plants inside it -- seems to be a good idea.

--

Nick Wilson

"Ian" wrote in message
news
Your Hyacinth survived? I thought they were tropicals?

I'm out in Brampton, 750 gallons give or take, depth only 24". I dropped
my
pickerel, hardy lilies, and a few others to the bottom of the pond for the
winter, all survived fine. The Cardinal plants were buried in the garden
bed
and mulched, they never came back. All my hyacinth get mulched as I
thought
they don't survive our winters.

I used one of the 100 watt de-icers, did the job last year.

"Don Falconer" wrote in message
ble.rogers.com...
I live in Whitby. Approx 200 gal pond and about 28 in. deep except for
plant
shelves. This will be my second winter. I set the plants (pickeral rush,
hyacinth) on the bottom. Left my two Koi in the pond. Set a pot on the
bottom on its side for additional shelter for them. I used an air tube
with
open end set about 8 in. below the surface as a bubbler. It bubbled all
winter. Even when ice covered it bubbled up and out the edge of the
pond.
The fish and plants all survived fine. Last winter was unusually cold
and
a
good test I think so I plan to do same this year.
Don
"Scrapster1" wrote in message
.. .
Hi, I live in Ontario, Canada and it can get cold here in the
winter, -20.
I have a small pond around 200 gal, 24 inches deep. I have some
goldfish
and
plants (hardy lily, pickeral rush, hyacinth, water iris). At what
temperature should I begin to bring the fish in. As for the plants,
which
will survive outdoors and which should I bring indoors. As for the
pond
itself, how would I prepare it? Thanks.

Can you actually drop the hyacinth in though to bury them for next year or
should they be taken indoors? I have quite a few that purchased, and quite a
few more left from growing over this past summer - it would certainly be a
shame to see them die off and not recover. I see by reading that a fellow
overturned a pot and set the plants inside it -- seems to be a good idea.

--

Nick Wilson

"Ian" wrote in message
news
Your Hyacinth survived? I thought they were tropicals?

I'm out in Brampton, 750 gallons give or take, depth only 24". I dropped
my
pickerel, hardy lilies, and a few others to the bottom of the pond for the
winter, all survived fine. The Cardinal plants were buried in the garden
bed
and mulched, they never came back. All my hyacinth get mulched as I
thought
they don't survive our winters.

I used one of the 100 watt de-icers, did the job last year.

"Don Falconer" wrote in message
ble.rogers.com...
I live in Whitby. Approx 200 gal pond and about 28 in. deep except for
plant
shelves. This will be my second winter. I set the plants (pickeral rush,
hyacinth) on the bottom. Left my two Koi in the pond. Set a pot on the
bottom on its side for additional shelter for them. I used an air tube
with
open end set about 8 in. below the surface as a bubbler. It bubbled all
winter. Even when ice covered it bubbled up and out the edge of the
pond.
The fish and plants all survived fine. Last winter was unusually cold
and
a
good test I think so I plan to do same this year.
Don
"Scrapster1" wrote in message
.. .
Hi, I live in Ontario, Canada and it can get cold here in the
winter, -20.
I have a small pond around 200 gal, 24 inches deep. I have some
goldfish
and
plants (hardy lily, pickeral rush, hyacinth, water iris). At what
temperature should I begin to bring the fish in. As for the plants,
which
will survive outdoors and which should I bring indoors. As for the
pond
itself, how would I prepare it? Thanks.

Sorry for the cross post -- I should have known better -- I didn't notice it
till I got home an synced

--

Nick Wilson

"Nick Wilson" wrote in message
e.rogers.com...
Can you actually drop the hyacinth in though to bury them for next year or
should they be taken indoors? I have quite a few that purchased, and quite
a
few more left from growing over this past summer - it would certainly be a
shame to see them die off and not recover. I see by reading that a fellow
overturned a pot and set the plants inside it -- seems to be a good idea.

--

Nick Wilson

"Ian" wrote in message
news
Your Hyacinth survived? I thought they were tropicals?

I'm out in Brampton, 750 gallons give or take, depth only 24". I dropped
my
pickerel, hardy lilies, and a few others to the bottom of the pond for
the
winter, all survived fine. The Cardinal plants were buried in the garden
bed
and mulched, they never came back. All my hyacinth get mulched as I
thought
they don't survive our winters.

I used one of the 100 watt de-icers, did the job last year.

"Don Falconer" wrote in message
ble.rogers.com...
I live in Whitby. Approx 200 gal pond and about 28 in. deep except for
plant
shelves. This will be my second winter. I set the plants (pickeral
rush,
hyacinth) on the bottom. Left my two Koi in the pond. Set a pot on the
bottom on its side for additional shelter for them. I used an air tube
with
open end set about 8 in. below the surface as a bubbler. It bubbled
all
winter. Even when ice covered it bubbled up and out the edge of the
pond.
The fish and plants all survived fine. Last winter was unusually cold
and
a
good test I think so I plan to do same this year.
Don
"Scrapster1" wrote in message
.. .
Hi, I live in Ontario, Canada and it can get cold here in the
winter, -20.
I have a small pond around 200 gal, 24 inches deep. I have some
goldfish
and
plants (hardy lily, pickeral rush, hyacinth, water iris). At what
temperature should I begin to bring the fish in. As for the plants,
which
will survive outdoors and which should I bring indoors. As for the
pond
itself, how would I prepare it? Thanks.

If you have the lighting to take them in, that would be best. I tied 3
to a brick and sunk it and got one survived that gave me many more. I
have been tossing them into the yard for months. I am in zone 7
something. North texas.


On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:45:29 GMT, "Nick Wilson"
wrote:

Can you actually drop the hyacinth in though to bury them for next year or
should they be taken indoors? I have quite a few that purchased, and quite a
few more left from growing over this past summer - it would certainly be a
shame to see them die off and not recover. I see by reading that a fellow
overturned a pot and set the plants inside it -- seems to be a good idea.

Jerri, I'm late to the thread. Sorry. Are you going to plant
the Hyacinth or put it in gravel or ??

Nedra

"Jerrispond" wrote in message
...
Right you are. Hyacinth would not/did not survive

I heard of some one in zone 6 who dropped hyacinth to 3 feet and it
overwintered ...gonna try it Jerri


http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/JerrisPond