My first winter with my pond with fish and so far so good with the fish,
but I think someone forgot to tell the fish thats its winter and they
should just stay at the bottom.

I put a black liner over 80% of the pond and the balance a clear plastic
sheet with support beams to keep the liner about 6" above the water.

Currently there is snow covering the whole pond ( 5ft x 4ft ) and we are
having a cold spell of -25C to -40C with the wind chill.

A few weeks ago I checked the pond for the first time, I have an air
line with a stone at the end that was about 8" deep, Ice had formed over
the whole pond, so I took a kettle of hot water to open a hole, brought
the air line up to 4" below the surface and removed the airstone and
just let the large bubbles from the airline come to the surface, I dont
think the small bubbles were able to keep a hole open with these
tempertures.
I also place a raw piece of wood that sits on an angle above the surface
and sits in the shallow end, I left it this way for a week and since the
weather has been colder since the first time I check, I thought it might
have frozen over again, but it wasnt, there is a good foot opening where
the bubbles are hitting the surface.

I'm sure if I hadnt covered the pond, it would have frozen over and with
regards to the fish, they are still swimming around down there and the
water is below 0C near the surace, I'm curious as to the tempture down
at the bottom.

One thing I'm afraid of is the small fish hiding under rocks in the
shallow end and then the water icing up around them, but from what I can
see, I dont think the ice will form any thicker then a few inces and the
fish will be fine.

Last year I did a dry run without fish and no cover and the ice was over
24inches thick and the airline froze in with the ice.

Hi Howard,

Have you checked the pond since the snow cover? I have found that once snow
gets on my screens it is like an igloo underneath and the water temp is
about 33.5*F, and the whole surface ice free. We had about a foot of snow
when our temps were -5.5*F. Now I didn't go lift the screens with that much
snow, but I could hear the water flow from filter to pond with apparent
ease, so I gathered it was liquid. To know how the fish are doing I'd need
an under water cam. s ~ jan

See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Defrosted~
Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 18:47:53 GMT, Howard wrote:

My first winter with my pond with fish and so far so good with the fish,
but I think someone forgot to tell the fish thats its winter and they
should just stay at the bottom.

I put a black liner over 80% of the pond and the balance a clear plastic
sheet with support beams to keep the liner about 6" above the water.

Currently there is snow covering the whole pond ( 5ft x 4ft ) and we are
having a cold spell of -25C to -40C with the wind chill.

A few weeks ago I checked the pond for the first time, I have an air
line with a stone at the end that was about 8" deep, Ice had formed over
the whole pond, so I took a kettle of hot water to open a hole, brought
the air line up to 4" below the surface and removed the airstone and
just let the large bubbles from the airline come to the surface, I dont
think the small bubbles were able to keep a hole open with these
tempertures.
I also place a raw piece of wood that sits on an angle above the surface
and sits in the shallow end, I left it this way for a week and since the
weather has been colder since the first time I check, I thought it might
have frozen over again, but it wasnt, there is a good foot opening where
the bubbles are hitting the surface.

I'm sure if I hadnt covered the pond, it would have frozen over and with
regards to the fish, they are still swimming around down there and the
water is below 0C near the surace, I'm curious as to the tempture down
at the bottom.

One thing I'm afraid of is the small fish hiding under rocks in the
shallow end and then the water icing up around them, but from what I can
see, I dont think the ice will form any thicker then a few inces and the
fish will be fine.

Last year I did a dry run without fish and no cover and the ice was over
24inches thick and the airline froze in with the ice.

I have checked the pond since the last snow fall, I removed the snow
where my hole was last week and its still open, its still frozen over
the rest of the pond, but only a thin layer, maybe a 1/4 inch thick and
I still see some fish moving around down there



~ jan JJsPond.us wrote in
:

Hi Howard,

Have you checked the pond since the snow cover? I have found that once
snow gets on my screens it is like an igloo underneath and the water
temp is about 33.5*F, and the whole surface ice free. We had about a
foot of snow when our temps were -5.5*F. Now I didn't go lift the
screens with that much snow, but I could hear the water flow from
filter to pond with apparent ease, so I gathered it was liquid. To
know how the fish are doing I'd need an under water cam. s ~ jan

See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Defrosted~
Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 18:47:53 GMT, Howard
wrote:

My first winter with my pond with fish and so far so good with the
fish, but I think someone forgot to tell the fish thats its winter and
they should just stay at the bottom.

I put a black liner over 80% of the pond and the balance a clear
plastic sheet with support beams to keep the liner about 6" above the
water.

Currently there is snow covering the whole pond ( 5ft x 4ft ) and we
are having a cold spell of -25C to -40C with the wind chill.

A few weeks ago I checked the pond for the first time, I have an air
line with a stone at the end that was about 8" deep, Ice had formed
over the whole pond, so I took a kettle of hot water to open a hole,
brought the air line up to 4" below the surface and removed the
airstone and just let the large bubbles from the airline come to the
surface, I dont think the small bubbles were able to keep a hole open
with these tempertures.
I also place a raw piece of wood that sits on an angle above the
surface and sits in the shallow end, I left it this way for a week and
since the weather has been colder since the first time I check, I
thought it might have frozen over again, but it wasnt, there is a good
foot opening where the bubbles are hitting the surface.

I'm sure if I hadnt covered the pond, it would have frozen over and
with regards to the fish, they are still swimming around down there
and the water is below 0C near the surace, I'm curious as to the
tempture down at the bottom.

One thing I'm afraid of is the small fish hiding under rocks in the
shallow end and then the water icing up around them, but from what I
can see, I dont think the ice will form any thicker then a few inces
and the fish will be fine.

Last year I did a dry run without fish and no cover and the ice was
over 24inches thick and the airline froze in with the ice.

I have checked the pond since the last snow fall, I removed the snow
where my hole was last week and its still open, its still frozen over
the rest of the pond, but only a thin layer, maybe a 1/4 inch thick and
I still see some fish moving around down there



~ jan JJsPond.us wrote in
:

Hi Howard,

Have you checked the pond since the snow cover? I have found that once
snow gets on my screens it is like an igloo underneath and the water
temp is about 33.5*F, and the whole surface ice free. We had about a
foot of snow when our temps were -5.5*F. Now I didn't go lift the
screens with that much snow, but I could hear the water flow from
filter to pond with apparent ease, so I gathered it was liquid. To
know how the fish are doing I'd need an under water cam. s ~ jan

See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Defrosted~
Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 18:47:53 GMT, Howard
wrote:

My first winter with my pond with fish and so far so good with the
fish, but I think someone forgot to tell the fish thats its winter and
they should just stay at the bottom.

I put a black liner over 80% of the pond and the balance a clear
plastic sheet with support beams to keep the liner about 6" above the
water.

Currently there is snow covering the whole pond ( 5ft x 4ft ) and we
are having a cold spell of -25C to -40C with the wind chill.

A few weeks ago I checked the pond for the first time, I have an air
line with a stone at the end that was about 8" deep, Ice had formed
over the whole pond, so I took a kettle of hot water to open a hole,
brought the air line up to 4" below the surface and removed the
airstone and just let the large bubbles from the airline come to the
surface, I dont think the small bubbles were able to keep a hole open
with these tempertures.
I also place a raw piece of wood that sits on an angle above the
surface and sits in the shallow end, I left it this way for a week and
since the weather has been colder since the first time I check, I
thought it might have frozen over again, but it wasnt, there is a good
foot opening where the bubbles are hitting the surface.

I'm sure if I hadnt covered the pond, it would have frozen over and
with regards to the fish, they are still swimming around down there
and the water is below 0C near the surace, I'm curious as to the
tempture down at the bottom.

One thing I'm afraid of is the small fish hiding under rocks in the
shallow end and then the water icing up around them, but from what I
can see, I dont think the ice will form any thicker then a few inces
and the fish will be fine.

Last year I did a dry run without fish and no cover and the ice was
over 24inches thick and the airline froze in with the ice.

I have checked the pond since the last snow fall, I removed the snow
where my hole was last week and its still open, its still frozen over
the rest of the pond, but only a thin layer, maybe a 1/4 inch thick and
I still see some fish moving around down there



~ jan JJsPond.us wrote in
:

Hi Howard,

Have you checked the pond since the snow cover? I have found that once
snow gets on my screens it is like an igloo underneath and the water
temp is about 33.5*F, and the whole surface ice free. We had about a
foot of snow when our temps were -5.5*F. Now I didn't go lift the
screens with that much snow, but I could hear the water flow from
filter to pond with apparent ease, so I gathered it was liquid. To
know how the fish are doing I'd need an under water cam. s ~ jan

See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Defrosted~
Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 18:47:53 GMT, Howard
wrote:

My first winter with my pond with fish and so far so good with the
fish, but I think someone forgot to tell the fish thats its winter and
they should just stay at the bottom.

I put a black liner over 80% of the pond and the balance a clear
plastic sheet with support beams to keep the liner about 6" above the
water.

Currently there is snow covering the whole pond ( 5ft x 4ft ) and we
are having a cold spell of -25C to -40C with the wind chill.

A few weeks ago I checked the pond for the first time, I have an air
line with a stone at the end that was about 8" deep, Ice had formed
over the whole pond, so I took a kettle of hot water to open a hole,
brought the air line up to 4" below the surface and removed the
airstone and just let the large bubbles from the airline come to the
surface, I dont think the small bubbles were able to keep a hole open
with these tempertures.
I also place a raw piece of wood that sits on an angle above the
surface and sits in the shallow end, I left it this way for a week and
since the weather has been colder since the first time I check, I
thought it might have frozen over again, but it wasnt, there is a good
foot opening where the bubbles are hitting the surface.

I'm sure if I hadnt covered the pond, it would have frozen over and
with regards to the fish, they are still swimming around down there
and the water is below 0C near the surace, I'm curious as to the
tempture down at the bottom.

One thing I'm afraid of is the small fish hiding under rocks in the
shallow end and then the water icing up around them, but from what I
can see, I dont think the ice will form any thicker then a few inces
and the fish will be fine.

Last year I did a dry run without fish and no cover and the ice was
over 24inches thick and the airline froze in with the ice.

I have checked the pond since the last snow fall, I removed the snow
where my hole was last week and its still open, its still frozen over
the rest of the pond, but only a thin layer, maybe a 1/4 inch thick and
I still see some fish moving around down there



~ jan JJsPond.us wrote in
:

Hi Howard,

Have you checked the pond since the snow cover? I have found that once
snow gets on my screens it is like an igloo underneath and the water
temp is about 33.5*F, and the whole surface ice free. We had about a
foot of snow when our temps were -5.5*F. Now I didn't go lift the
screens with that much snow, but I could hear the water flow from
filter to pond with apparent ease, so I gathered it was liquid. To
know how the fish are doing I'd need an under water cam. s ~ jan

See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Defrosted~
Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 18:47:53 GMT, Howard
wrote:

My first winter with my pond with fish and so far so good with the
fish, but I think someone forgot to tell the fish thats its winter and
they should just stay at the bottom.

I put a black liner over 80% of the pond and the balance a clear
plastic sheet with support beams to keep the liner about 6" above the
water.

Currently there is snow covering the whole pond ( 5ft x 4ft ) and we
are having a cold spell of -25C to -40C with the wind chill.

A few weeks ago I checked the pond for the first time, I have an air
line with a stone at the end that was about 8" deep, Ice had formed
over the whole pond, so I took a kettle of hot water to open a hole,
brought the air line up to 4" below the surface and removed the
airstone and just let the large bubbles from the airline come to the
surface, I dont think the small bubbles were able to keep a hole open
with these tempertures.
I also place a raw piece of wood that sits on an angle above the
surface and sits in the shallow end, I left it this way for a week and
since the weather has been colder since the first time I check, I
thought it might have frozen over again, but it wasnt, there is a good
foot opening where the bubbles are hitting the surface.

I'm sure if I hadnt covered the pond, it would have frozen over and
with regards to the fish, they are still swimming around down there
and the water is below 0C near the surace, I'm curious as to the
tempture down at the bottom.

One thing I'm afraid of is the small fish hiding under rocks in the
shallow end and then the water icing up around them, but from what I
can see, I dont think the ice will form any thicker then a few inces
and the fish will be fine.

Last year I did a dry run without fish and no cover and the ice was
over 24inches thick and the airline froze in with the ice.