I would welcome any advice. I am building a pond for the first time, it is a large pond approx 60 feet by 30 feet and about 6 feet deep in the middle. It has been excavated and now I aim to put a layer of "Teram" geotextile (bit like weedblock fabric) followed by about 1 inch of sand and then I aim to put down "silage sheet", this is the plastic farmers use to line silage and slurry pits and comes in very large sizes. It is much cheaper than official pond liners. Then I intend to cover the sheet with another layer of geotextile and then sand with patches of gravel for cosmetic effect. It will be trickle filled via a small pump from a stream which comes off the mountains. Questions: anyone else used silage sheet? I'm pretty certain the sheet is UV stable but would welcome comments and any advice?

Matt,

I used EDPM from a place that manufactures it for usage around chemical and
fuel tanks. I had no problems with it. Do you know what the material you
are looking at is made of?

"matt wright" wrote in message
s.com...
I would welcome any advice. I am building a pond for the first time, it
is a large pond approx 60 feet by 30 feet and about 6 feet deep in the
middle. It has been excavated and now I aim to put a layer of "Teram"
geotextile (bit like weedblock fabric) followed by about 1 inch of sand
and then I aim to put down "silage sheet", this is the plastic farmers
use to line silage and slurry pits and comes in very large sizes. It is
much cheaper than official pond liners. Then I intend to cover the
sheet with another layer of geotextile and then sand with patches of
gravel for cosmetic effect. It will be trickle filled via a small pump
from a stream which comes off the mountains. Questions: anyone else
used silage sheet? I'm pretty certain the sheet is UV stable but would
welcome comments and any advice?
--
matt wright
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Matt,

I used EDPM from a place that manufactures it for usage around chemical and
fuel tanks. I had no problems with it. Do you know what the material you
are looking at is made of?

"matt wright" wrote in message
s.com...
I would welcome any advice. I am building a pond for the first time, it
is a large pond approx 60 feet by 30 feet and about 6 feet deep in the
middle. It has been excavated and now I aim to put a layer of "Teram"
geotextile (bit like weedblock fabric) followed by about 1 inch of sand
and then I aim to put down "silage sheet", this is the plastic farmers
use to line silage and slurry pits and comes in very large sizes. It is
much cheaper than official pond liners. Then I intend to cover the
sheet with another layer of geotextile and then sand with patches of
gravel for cosmetic effect. It will be trickle filled via a small pump
from a stream which comes off the mountains. Questions: anyone else
used silage sheet? I'm pretty certain the sheet is UV stable but would
welcome comments and any advice?
--
matt wright
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Matt,

I used EDPM from a place that manufactures it for usage around chemical and
fuel tanks. I had no problems with it. Do you know what the material you
are looking at is made of?

"matt wright" wrote in message
s.com...
I would welcome any advice. I am building a pond for the first time, it
is a large pond approx 60 feet by 30 feet and about 6 feet deep in the
middle. It has been excavated and now I aim to put a layer of "Teram"
geotextile (bit like weedblock fabric) followed by about 1 inch of sand
and then I aim to put down "silage sheet", this is the plastic farmers
use to line silage and slurry pits and comes in very large sizes. It is
much cheaper than official pond liners. Then I intend to cover the
sheet with another layer of geotextile and then sand with patches of
gravel for cosmetic effect. It will be trickle filled via a small pump
from a stream which comes off the mountains. Questions: anyone else
used silage sheet? I'm pretty certain the sheet is UV stable but would
welcome comments and any advice?
--
matt wright
------------------------------------------------------------------------
posted via www.GardenBanter.co.uk

Matt,

I used EDPM from a place that manufactures it for usage around chemical and
fuel tanks. I had no problems with it. Do you know what the material you
are looking at is made of?

"matt wright" wrote in message
s.com...
I would welcome any advice. I am building a pond for the first time, it
is a large pond approx 60 feet by 30 feet and about 6 feet deep in the
middle. It has been excavated and now I aim to put a layer of "Teram"
geotextile (bit like weedblock fabric) followed by about 1 inch of sand
and then I aim to put down "silage sheet", this is the plastic farmers
use to line silage and slurry pits and comes in very large sizes. It is
much cheaper than official pond liners. Then I intend to cover the
sheet with another layer of geotextile and then sand with patches of
gravel for cosmetic effect. It will be trickle filled via a small pump
from a stream which comes off the mountains. Questions: anyone else
used silage sheet? I'm pretty certain the sheet is UV stable but would
welcome comments and any advice?
--
matt wright
------------------------------------------------------------------------
posted via www.GardenBanter.co.uk

Hi Ted, thanks very much for a reply, i was worried no-one would help. Unfortunately the supplier is an ordinary agricultural merchants and doesn't know what the sheet is made of! They are trying to get hold of the manufacturers but no luck so far. However I was told by a landscape architect that silage sheet is good as long as its UV stable. What I've got is black in colour and quite thick, say about 0.7mm. Its not shown any signs of cracking while its been stored for the last 8 months. I spoke to another bloke that supplies various linings for slurry pits and reservoirs and he said if its polypropelene it will be fine and even if its PVC it will be okay especially if its covered over with another layer. I think the butyl pond lining manufacturers don't want people to know there are other options. What is EDPM? How much did it cost and where did you get it?

Matt

be careful about what you use. there are liners will kill the fish. if you get
liner rated for human drinking water it should be safe. but try roofing contractors
for the epdm instead. best might be to order some permalon.. is light weight.
http://puregold.aquaria.net/mypond/2000/p2000.htm
do a google search for it and order it online. Ingrid

matt wright wrote:

Hi Ted, thanks very much for a reply, i was worried no-one would help.
Unfortunately the supplier is an ordinary agricultural merchants and
doesn't know what the sheet is made of! They are trying to get hold of
the manufacturers but no luck so far. However I was told by a landscape
architect that silage sheet is good as long as its UV stable. What I've
got is black in colour and quite thick, say about 0.7mm. Its not shown
any signs of cracking while its been stored for the last 8 months. I
spoke to another bloke that supplies various linings for slurry pits
and reservoirs and he said if its polypropelene it will be fine and
even if its PVC it will be okay especially if its covered over with
another layer. I think the butyl pond lining manufacturers don't want
people to know there are other options. What is EDPM? How much did it
cost and where did you get it?

Matt



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

be careful about what you use. there are liners will kill the fish. if you get
liner rated for human drinking water it should be safe. but try roofing contractors
for the epdm instead. best might be to order some permalon.. is light weight.
http://puregold.aquaria.net/mypond/2000/p2000.htm
do a google search for it and order it online. Ingrid

matt wright wrote:

Hi Ted, thanks very much for a reply, i was worried no-one would help.
Unfortunately the supplier is an ordinary agricultural merchants and
doesn't know what the sheet is made of! They are trying to get hold of
the manufacturers but no luck so far. However I was told by a landscape
architect that silage sheet is good as long as its UV stable. What I've
got is black in colour and quite thick, say about 0.7mm. Its not shown
any signs of cracking while its been stored for the last 8 months. I
spoke to another bloke that supplies various linings for slurry pits
and reservoirs and he said if its polypropelene it will be fine and
even if its PVC it will be okay especially if its covered over with
another layer. I think the butyl pond lining manufacturers don't want
people to know there are other options. What is EDPM? How much did it
cost and where did you get it?

Matt



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

be careful about what you use. there are liners will kill the fish. if you get
liner rated for human drinking water it should be safe. but try roofing contractors
for the epdm instead. best might be to order some permalon.. is light weight.
http://puregold.aquaria.net/mypond/2000/p2000.htm
do a google search for it and order it online. Ingrid

matt wright wrote:

Hi Ted, thanks very much for a reply, i was worried no-one would help.
Unfortunately the supplier is an ordinary agricultural merchants and
doesn't know what the sheet is made of! They are trying to get hold of
the manufacturers but no luck so far. However I was told by a landscape
architect that silage sheet is good as long as its UV stable. What I've
got is black in colour and quite thick, say about 0.7mm. Its not shown
any signs of cracking while its been stored for the last 8 months. I
spoke to another bloke that supplies various linings for slurry pits
and reservoirs and he said if its polypropelene it will be fine and
even if its PVC it will be okay especially if its covered over with
another layer. I think the butyl pond lining manufacturers don't want
people to know there are other options. What is EDPM? How much did it
cost and where did you get it?

Matt



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.