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BV ~ Oh, I don't know nothing about those pesky electrons and H20 ;-)
BUT....
someone who was in the insurance
industry, once posted here about this
problem. In that if you have uninspected
work like this on your property, and you have
a fire, that your insurance can opt not to
cover your damage. Even if it had nothing to
do with the fire.

Be that as it may, my DH is an electrical engineer for a nuclear power plant.
When it came time to put in our power to our pond he hired an electrician. His
reasoning was that the fellow knew housing codes inside and out. We also had it
inspected by our city so we were doubly sure we were up to code.
Being in nuclear power he always has to make sure all the bases are firmly
covered so as to not bring down the wrath of the NRC upon his head.
Same applies to our family and household.

I know lots and lots of folks have extension cords all over the place and do
their own electrical work.
The insurance issue and the legality of it all puts me on the side of being
extra careful and I'm glad we did it the way we did.


kathy :-)
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BV ~ Oh, I don't know nothing about those pesky electrons and H20 ;-)
BUT....
someone who was in the insurance
industry, once posted here about this
problem. In that if you have uninspected
work like this on your property, and you have
a fire, that your insurance can opt not to
cover your damage. Even if it had nothing to
do with the fire.

Be that as it may, my DH is an electrical engineer for a nuclear power plant.
When it came time to put in our power to our pond he hired an electrician. His
reasoning was that the fellow knew housing codes inside and out. We also had it
inspected by our city so we were doubly sure we were up to code.
Being in nuclear power he always has to make sure all the bases are firmly
covered so as to not bring down the wrath of the NRC upon his head.
Same applies to our family and household.

I know lots and lots of folks have extension cords all over the place and do
their own electrical work.
The insurance issue and the legality of it all puts me on the side of being
extra careful and I'm glad we did it the way we did.


kathy :-)
A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A

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BV - you shouldn't run romex in conduit, it gets too hot. You need to run
individual wires (black, white and ground)

Joe


On 3/3/04 10:05 AM, "BenignVanilla" wrote:

Really? Running two conduits...one full of water, and one containing two
romex cables sounds bad?



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BV - you shouldn't run romex in conduit, it gets too hot. You need to run
individual wires (black, white and ground)

Joe


On 3/3/04 10:05 AM, "BenignVanilla" wrote:

Really? Running two conduits...one full of water, and one containing two
romex cables sounds bad?



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Sorry - also, probably should be 20 amp service given pump loads and such.

Joe

On 3/3/04 5:20 PM, "joe" wrote:

BV - you shouldn't run romex in conduit, it gets too hot. You need to run
individual wires (black, white and ground)

Joe


On 3/3/04 10:05 AM, "BenignVanilla" wrote:

Really? Running two conduits...one full of water, and one containing two
romex cables sounds bad?



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"Bryan" wrote in message
...

here's a thought. save $ on pvc, run the electrical inside the waterline!
:-)

But honestly, if the trench is deep/wide enough, why not run in same hole?
But as others have said, check with local code/requirements would be a
good
idea also.

Bryan

(legal notice for those who spill McDonalds hot coffee on themselves, and
sue M, I'm just kidding!)


Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying, "See,
I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!"

Sameer

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"Snooze" wrote in message
. com...
snip
Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying,
"See,
I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!"

Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench
not the same conduit. Was that clear?

BV.

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"Snooze" wrote in message
. com...
snip
Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying,
"See,
I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!"

Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench
not the same conduit. Was that clear?

BV.

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"Snooze" wrote in message
. com...
snip
Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying,
"See,
I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!"

Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench
not the same conduit. Was that clear?

BV.

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One pipe was never mentioned in your post, BV.
Your post was clear to me.
Some folks just don't read carefully enough - my opinion ;-)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
...

"Snooze" wrote in message
. com...
snip
Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying,
"See,
I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!"

Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench
not the same conduit. Was that clear?

BV.

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"Snooze" wrote in message
. com...
snip
Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying,
"See,
I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!"

Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench
not the same conduit. Was that clear?

BV.

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"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
...

"Snooze" wrote in message
. com...
Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying,
"See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1
pipe!"

Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench
not the same conduit. Was that clear?


BV you didn't read the comment of the person I was following up to. Brian
had made a joke and said "here's a thought. save $ on pvc, run the
electrical inside the waterline! :-)" My comment was directed towards him,
not your original post.

Sameer

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"Snooze" wrote in message
m...
"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
...

"Snooze" wrote in message
. com...
Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying,
"See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1
pipe!"

Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same
trench
not the same conduit. Was that clear?


BV you didn't read the comment of the person I was following up to. Brian
had made a joke and said "here's a thought. save $ on pvc, run the
electrical inside the waterline! :-)" My comment was directed towards him,
not your original post.

Ahh, OK. I was confused.

BV.

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On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 17:20:56 -0800, joe wrote:

BV - you shouldn't run romex in conduit, it gets too hot. You need to run
individual wires (black, white and ground)

Do you have a reference for this information? I've never heard it
before and some companies make fittings to accommodate running romex
into and through conduit. I'm sure there must be a situation calling
for individual wires, I just don't believe we are talking about that
situation, but I'd like to know, if you will explain it to me. Are
we talking about plastic or metal conduit? I've seen metal conduit
wired in this fashion, but never knew why because the wire wasn't long
enough to overheat with a normal load. I've listed a couple
references for using romex in conduit:

http://www.donpearman.com/forensics/...sedromex.shtml
http://www.homewiringandmore.com/hom...nduitfill.html
That URL will probably have to be put back together, but here is a
note from that page that indicates someone uses romex in conduit.
“Special Notes” When installing multi - conductor cable such as
Romex in a conduit you must calculate the actual dimensions of the
cable at it’s widest point, and figured as a circular assembly. Then
compare this area required to the 40% fill allowed for the conduit
being used.

Regards,

Hal

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One pipe was never mentioned in your post, BV.
Your post was clear to me.
Some folks just don't read carefully enough - my opinion ;-)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
...

"Snooze" wrote in message
. com...
snip
Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying,
"See,
I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!"

Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench
not the same conduit. Was that clear?

BV.