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Extending Water to Pond
OPSS ... Sorry, Sameer. Actually I destroyed my post and then
went ahead and sent it :( Guess I'll go with my initial thought from now on. Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "Snooze" wrote in message m... "BenignVanilla" wrote in message ... "Snooze" wrote in message . com... Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying, "See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!" Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench not the same conduit. Was that clear? BV you didn't read the comment of the person I was following up to. Brian had made a joke and said "here's a thought. save $ on pvc, run the electrical inside the waterline! :-)" My comment was directed towards him, not your original post. Sameer |
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"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
... "Snooze" wrote in message . com... Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying, "See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!" Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench not the same conduit. Was that clear? BV you didn't read the comment of the person I was following up to. Brian had made a joke and said "here's a thought. save $ on pvc, run the electrical inside the waterline! :-)" My comment was directed towards him, not your original post. Sameer |
Extending Water to Pond
"Snooze" wrote in message m... "BenignVanilla" wrote in message ... "Snooze" wrote in message . com... Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying, "See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!" Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench not the same conduit. Was that clear? BV you didn't read the comment of the person I was following up to. Brian had made a joke and said "here's a thought. save $ on pvc, run the electrical inside the waterline! :-)" My comment was directed towards him, not your original post. Ahh, OK. I was confused. BV. |
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On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 17:20:56 -0800, joe wrote:
BV - you shouldn't run romex in conduit, it gets too hot. You need to run individual wires (black, white and ground) Do you have a reference for this information? I've never heard it before and some companies make fittings to accommodate running romex into and through conduit. I'm sure there must be a situation calling for individual wires, I just don't believe we are talking about that situation, but I'd like to know, if you will explain it to me. Are we talking about plastic or metal conduit? I've seen metal conduit wired in this fashion, but never knew why because the wire wasn't long enough to overheat with a normal load. I've listed a couple references for using romex in conduit: http://www.donpearman.com/forensics/...sedromex.shtml http://www.homewiringandmore.com/hom...nduitfill.html That URL will probably have to be put back together, but here is a note from that page that indicates someone uses romex in conduit. “Special Notes” When installing multi - conductor cable such as Romex in a conduit you must calculate the actual dimensions of the cable at it’s widest point, and figured as a circular assembly. Then compare this area required to the 40% fill allowed for the conduit being used. Regards, Hal |
Extending Water to Pond
OPSS ... Sorry, Sameer. Actually I destroyed my post and then
went ahead and sent it :( Guess I'll go with my initial thought from now on. Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "Snooze" wrote in message m... "BenignVanilla" wrote in message ... "Snooze" wrote in message . com... Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying, "See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!" Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench not the same conduit. Was that clear? BV you didn't read the comment of the person I was following up to. Brian had made a joke and said "here's a thought. save $ on pvc, run the electrical inside the waterline! :-)" My comment was directed towards him, not your original post. Sameer |
Extending Water to Pond
"Nedra" wrote in message link.net... OPSS ... Sorry, Sameer. Actually I destroyed my post and then went ahead and sent it :( Guess I'll go with my initial thought from now on. It's okay, but now you're in debt to me. The price is should we ever meet, you owe me one serving of whatever your favorite dessert is. Unless it's creme brulee, then it's 2 servings. Sameer |
Extending Water to Pond
"Nedra" wrote in message link.net... OPSS ... Sorry, Sameer. Actually I destroyed my post and then went ahead and sent it :( Guess I'll go with my initial thought from now on. It's okay, but now you're in debt to me. The price is should we ever meet, you owe me one serving of whatever your favorite dessert is. Unless it's creme brulee, then it's 2 servings. Sameer |
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BenignVanilla wrote: Right now, when I want to fill the pond, I drag a hose out from the house. If I wanted to put a spigot out back by the pond, what would be the best material to use? Can I bury it in the same trench that I am using for an electrical conduit? -- BV. www.iheartmypond.com PVC and yes u can use the same trencnh but put the water line below the elec conduit at least a foot I 'think if you look through my pond site you can see my outlet, its 1" PVC with a ball valve John Rutz |
Extending Water to Pond
BenignVanilla wrote: Right now, when I want to fill the pond, I drag a hose out from the house. If I wanted to put a spigot out back by the pond, what would be the best material to use? Can I bury it in the same trench that I am using for an electrical conduit? -- BV. www.iheartmypond.com PVC and yes u can use the same trencnh but put the water line below the elec conduit at least a foot I 'think if you look through my pond site you can see my outlet, its 1" PVC with a ball valve John Rutz |
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OK I ran romex through condiut for my old trailer,for 50 ft the line is
still in opweration aftr 10 yrs when we wired the pond the romex is in conduit, its required by the bldg code if its exposed(NOT INSIDE A WALL) or buried John RUTZ Hal wrote: On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 17:20:56 -0800, joe wrote: BV - you shouldn't run romex in conduit, it gets too hot. You need to run individual wires (black, white and ground) Do you have a reference for this information? I've never heard it before and some companies make fittings to accommodate running romex into and through conduit. I'm sure there must be a situation calling for individual wires, I just don't believe we are talking about that situation, but I'd like to know, if you will explain it to me. Are we talking about plastic or metal conduit? I've seen metal conduit wired in this fashion, but never knew why because the wire wasn't long enough to overheat with a normal load. I've listed a couple references for using romex in conduit: http://www.donpearman.com/forensics/...sedromex.shtml http://www.homewiringandmore.com/hom...nduitfill.html That URL will probably have to be put back together, but here is a note from that page that indicates someone uses romex in conduit. “Special Notes” When installing multi - conductor cable such as Romex in a conduit you must calculate the actual dimensions of the cable at it’s widest point, and figured as a circular assembly. Then compare this area required to the 40% fill allowed for the conduit being used. Regards, Hal |
Extending Water to Pond
OK I ran romex through condiut for my old trailer,for 50 ft the line is
still in opweration aftr 10 yrs when we wired the pond the romex is in conduit, its required by the bldg code if its exposed(NOT INSIDE A WALL) or buried John RUTZ Hal wrote: On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 17:20:56 -0800, joe wrote: BV - you shouldn't run romex in conduit, it gets too hot. You need to run individual wires (black, white and ground) Do you have a reference for this information? I've never heard it before and some companies make fittings to accommodate running romex into and through conduit. I'm sure there must be a situation calling for individual wires, I just don't believe we are talking about that situation, but I'd like to know, if you will explain it to me. Are we talking about plastic or metal conduit? I've seen metal conduit wired in this fashion, but never knew why because the wire wasn't long enough to overheat with a normal load. I've listed a couple references for using romex in conduit: http://www.donpearman.com/forensics/...sedromex.shtml http://www.homewiringandmore.com/hom...nduitfill.html That URL will probably have to be put back together, but here is a note from that page that indicates someone uses romex in conduit. “Special Notes” When installing multi - conductor cable such as Romex in a conduit you must calculate the actual dimensions of the cable at it’s widest point, and figured as a circular assembly. Then compare this area required to the 40% fill allowed for the conduit being used. Regards, Hal |
Extending Water to Pond
john wrote: OK I ran romex through condiut for my old trailer,for 50 ft the line is still in opweration aftr 10 yrs when we wired the pond the romex is in conduit, its required by the bldg code if its exposed(NOT INSIDE A WALL) or buried John RUTZ oops should of said if its direct burial cable it has to be 4 ft down |
Extending Water to Pond
john wrote: OK I ran romex through condiut for my old trailer,for 50 ft the line is still in opweration aftr 10 yrs when we wired the pond the romex is in conduit, its required by the bldg code if its exposed(NOT INSIDE A WALL) or buried John RUTZ oops should of said if its direct burial cable it has to be 4 ft down |
Extending Water to Pond
Grey PVC for electric and white for water. Works great.
Jim -- ______________________________________________ See our pond at: home.bellsouth.net\p\pwp-jameshurley Check out Jog-A-Thon fundraiser (clears $140+ per child) at: jogathon.net ______________________________________________ "BenignVanilla" wrote in message ... "Ka30P" wrote in message ... BV wrote Can I bury it in the same trench that I am using for an electrical conduit? ak! I had an immediate mental picture of somebody digging in the backyard and hitting both lines at once. Looked like Wiley Coyote on one of his better days... You might always know that the lines run together but somebody else might not. And if you have boys like I have boys... digging illicit holes is right up there as mischief just waiting to happen. Really? Running two conduits...one full of water, and one containing two romex cables sounds bad? I thought that sounded great? I mean really...If someone pounds a shovel through a piece of PVC, and thru both wires...will a little water really make a difference? Especially if these circuits have GFI's? BV. |
Extending Water to Pond
Grey PVC for electric and white for water. Works great.
Jim -- ______________________________________________ See our pond at: home.bellsouth.net\p\pwp-jameshurley Check out Jog-A-Thon fundraiser (clears $140+ per child) at: jogathon.net ______________________________________________ "BenignVanilla" wrote in message ... "Ka30P" wrote in message ... BV wrote Can I bury it in the same trench that I am using for an electrical conduit? ak! I had an immediate mental picture of somebody digging in the backyard and hitting both lines at once. Looked like Wiley Coyote on one of his better days... You might always know that the lines run together but somebody else might not. And if you have boys like I have boys... digging illicit holes is right up there as mischief just waiting to happen. Really? Running two conduits...one full of water, and one containing two romex cables sounds bad? I thought that sounded great? I mean really...If someone pounds a shovel through a piece of PVC, and thru both wires...will a little water really make a difference? Especially if these circuits have GFI's? BV. |
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