Now that I finally have a frog in my pond (a big fat one) I need that
link to the bullfrog/green frog differences.

Anyone?

TIA

John

Congrats on your frog ;-)

This is a picture of a bullfrog
http://www.willowparkecology.com/ima...z/bullfrog.jpg

Here is a greenfrog
http://vergil.hackedtobits.com/greenfrog.jpg

The distinguishing characteristic is the ridge that starts at the back of the
eye. Bullfrog - it curves around the eardrum, greenfrog - it runs down the
back.


kathy :-)
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Ka30P wrote:
Congrats on your frog ;-)

This is a picture of a bullfrog
http://www.willowparkecology.com/ima...z/bullfrog.jpg

Here is a greenfrog
http://vergil.hackedtobits.com/greenfrog.jpg

The distinguishing characteristic is the ridge that starts at the back of the
eye. Bullfrog - it curves around the eardrum, greenfrog - it runs down the
back.

Don't forget the big difference in voice. Green frogs sound
distinctively like the twang of a banjo string.

http://www.nwf.org/frogwatchUSA/frogs_state.cfm

has a list of frogs native ot your area with audio sound clips for each.

I find it a lot easier to distinguish my frog and toad visitors and
residents by voice.

Susan
shsimko[@]duke[.]edu

I think i have a bullfrog after looking at many pictures. I didn't in
a million years expect to see one here because there are no bodies of
water around here except for my 2 yr old puddle. This thing is way
bigger than the toads and i haven't seen any of my toad friends since
i saw the bullfrog. That bothers me. If it stays, what will happen
next mating season? Will it chase off the mating pairs of toads? I
didn't find any info that said b.frogs eat toads, but my tads are all
but missing and i am not seeing babies near the pond and no adults
whatsoever. And the pondmaster toad doesnt go there any more. I
liked watching him eat and he could care less if i was there or not.
Maybe i'll run it off this fall, i dont know.






On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 16:45:21 -0400, "Susan H. Simko"
wrote:

Ka30P wrote:
Congrats on your frog ;-)

This is a picture of a bullfrog
http://www.willowparkecology.com/ima...z/bullfrog.jpg

Here is a greenfrog
http://vergil.hackedtobits.com/greenfrog.jpg

The distinguishing characteristic is the ridge that starts at the
back of the
eye. Bullfrog - it curves around the eardrum, greenfrog - it runs
down the
back.

Don't forget the big difference in voice. Green frogs sound
distinctively like the twang of a banjo string.

http://www.nwf.org/frogwatchUSA/frogs_state.cfm

has a list of frogs native ot your area with audio sound clips for
each.

I find it a lot easier to distinguish my frog and toad visitors and
residents by voice.

Susan
shsimko[@]duke[.]edu

jammer wrote:
I think i have a bullfrog after looking at many pictures. I didn't in
a million years expect to see one here because there are no bodies of
water around here except for my 2 yr old puddle. This thing is way
bigger than the toads and i haven't seen any of my toad friends since
i saw the bullfrog. That bothers me. If it stays, what will happen
next mating season? Will it chase off the mating pairs of toads? I
didn't find any info that said b.frogs eat toads, but my tads are all
but missing and i am not seeing babies near the pond and no adults
whatsoever. And the pondmaster toad doesnt go there any more. I
liked watching him eat and he could care less if i was there or not.
Maybe i'll run it off this fall, i dont know.

My green frog and my toads somewhat peacefully co-exist and I don't know
about bulls and toads.

OTOH, most things don't eat toadpoles or toads. Toads have a poison sac
under their back that makes them a very unpleasant snack. My
understanding is that the same holds true of toadpoles - very unpleasant
to eat. However, I will admit that I have seen my shubunkin snacking on
my toadpoles though I suspect it was more out of annoyance then desire
to eat them.

Perhaps your toadpoles have fledged? Depending upon water temps they
can be gone in as little as three weeks. IIRC, you're in TX so you
probably have warmer water temps than I have in NC. My toadpoles were
out of the pond in about 4 weeks here.

Susan
shsimko[@]duke[.]edu

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:59:28 -0400, "Susan H. Simko"
wrote:

jammer wrote:
I think i have a bullfrog after looking at many pictures. I didn't
in
a million years expect to see one here because there are no bodies
of
water around here except for my 2 yr old puddle. This thing is way
bigger than the toads and i haven't seen any of my toad friends
since
i saw the bullfrog. That bothers me. If it stays, what will happen
next mating season? Will it chase off the mating pairs of toads? I
didn't find any info that said b.frogs eat toads, but my tads are
all
but missing and i am not seeing babies near the pond and no adults
whatsoever. And the pondmaster toad doesnt go there any more. I
liked watching him eat and he could care less if i was there or
not.
Maybe i'll run it off this fall, i dont know.

My green frog and my toads somewhat peacefully co-exist and I don't
know
about bulls and toads.

OTOH, most things don't eat toadpoles or toads. Toads have a poison
sac
under their back that makes them a very unpleasant snack. My
understanding is that the same holds true of toadpoles - very
unpleasant
to eat. However, I will admit that I have seen my shubunkin snacking
on
my toadpoles though I suspect it was more out of annoyance then
desire
to eat them.

Perhaps your toadpoles have fledged? Depending upon water temps they
can be gone in as little as three weeks. IIRC, you're in TX so you
probably have warmer water temps than I have in NC. My toadpoles
were
out of the pond in about 4 weeks here.

Susan
shsimko[@]duke[.]edu

I found about 100 tadpoles (toadpoles) on top of a pot and fed them
flake fish food. So, i am no longer worried about the bullfrog chowing
down on them.

Some of the tads have fledged because i found a couple baby toads no
bigger than my pinky nail cut down to the quick. I had housed 15
toadpoles in an aquarium and they were toads in a month. These are
over 2 months old and still no front legs. Guess it all depends on
food supply and space as well as temperature.

Thanks for your reply.

On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 04:55:43 -0500, jammer wrote:

I finally got a pretty good look at the big frog tonight. I couldn't
see it's feet, but it is about 5 inches long without it's feet. After
looking at it and then looking at pictures, the only way to tell was
it's size. It has to be a (young?) bullfrog. It is brown on the
back,
green on the head, white on it's chest and yellow around it's mouth.
Quite a good specimen. So far it hasn't eaten my 3 fish. It looks
rather thin.


Bullfrog update: He is maturing and has fattened up.

On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 04:55:43 -0500, jammer wrote:

I finally got a pretty good look at the big frog tonight. I couldn't
see it's feet, but it is about 5 inches long without it's feet. After
looking at it and then looking at pictures, the only way to tell was
it's size. It has to be a (young?) bullfrog. It is brown on the
back,
green on the head, white on it's chest and yellow around it's mouth.
Quite a good specimen. So far it hasn't eaten my 3 fish. It looks
rather thin.


Bullfrog update: He is maturing and has fattened up.

On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 04:55:43 -0500, jammer wrote:

I finally got a pretty good look at the big frog tonight. I couldn't
see it's feet, but it is about 5 inches long without it's feet. After
looking at it and then looking at pictures, the only way to tell was
it's size. It has to be a (young?) bullfrog. It is brown on the
back,
green on the head, white on it's chest and yellow around it's mouth.
Quite a good specimen. So far it hasn't eaten my 3 fish. It looks
rather thin.


Bullfrog update: He is maturing and has fattened up.

Great news! good to hear he's doing well. Although I wouldn't say that if he
were here ... bullfrogs here have over-run much of the native ponds / water
and have added to the serious reduction of local frogs, toads and turtles.
We did have two bullfrogs for a couple years, but they finally died without
replacing themselves.
--
zookeeper
Oregon, USDA Zone 7
3500gal pond, 13 koi

"jammer" wrote:

Bullfrog update: He is maturing and has fattened up.

Great news! good to hear he's doing well. Although I wouldn't say that if he
were here ... bullfrogs here have over-run much of the native ponds / water
and have added to the serious reduction of local frogs, toads and turtles.
We did have two bullfrogs for a couple years, but they finally died without
replacing themselves.
--
zookeeper
Oregon, USDA Zone 7
3500gal pond, 13 koi

"jammer" wrote:

Bullfrog update: He is maturing and has fattened up.

On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 00:20:57 -0500, jammer wrote:

===On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 04:55:43 -0500, jammer wrote:
===
===I finally got a pretty good look at the big frog tonight. I couldn't
===see it's feet, but it is about 5 inches long without it's feet. After
===looking at it and then looking at pictures, the only way to tell was
===it's size. It has to be a (young?) bullfrog. It is brown on the
===back,
===green on the head, white on it's chest and yellow around it's mouth.
===Quite a good specimen. So far it hasn't eaten my 3 fish. It looks
===rather thin.
===
===
===Bullfrog update: He is maturing and has fattened up.

We have had a huge bull frog in our pond for a few years now, and a
few nights ago I happened to spot him inside the gazeebo.......I
played the flashlight beam onto him, and he just froze where he was
at, and I was able to round him up. He was quite a handfull. About the
size of a large grey squirrel or half grown rabbit. Anyways we looked
him over a bit and then put him back down and left him go his own way.
LAst night the wife spotted him in the barn setting there catching
bugs under the chicks brooder. When you walk around the pond at night
and he is there and jumps in it sounds like someone threw a brickl in
the water, he makes such a large splash.......
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 00:20:57 -0500, jammer wrote:

===On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 04:55:43 -0500, jammer wrote:
===
===I finally got a pretty good look at the big frog tonight. I couldn't
===see it's feet, but it is about 5 inches long without it's feet. After
===looking at it and then looking at pictures, the only way to tell was
===it's size. It has to be a (young?) bullfrog. It is brown on the
===back,
===green on the head, white on it's chest and yellow around it's mouth.
===Quite a good specimen. So far it hasn't eaten my 3 fish. It looks
===rather thin.
===
===
===Bullfrog update: He is maturing and has fattened up.

We have had a huge bull frog in our pond for a few years now, and a
few nights ago I happened to spot him inside the gazeebo.......I
played the flashlight beam onto him, and he just froze where he was
at, and I was able to round him up. He was quite a handfull. About the
size of a large grey squirrel or half grown rabbit. Anyways we looked
him over a bit and then put him back down and left him go his own way.
LAst night the wife spotted him in the barn setting there catching
bugs under the chicks brooder. When you walk around the pond at night
and he is there and jumps in it sounds like someone threw a brickl in
the water, he makes such a large splash.......
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I was surprised to learn recently that although bullfrogs are native here in
Florida, they are not indigenous to the western states, but have been
introduced there and are now regarded as a pest species because of their
depredations on smaller native frogs. I've heard that a bullfrog will eat
anything he can get into his large mouth, and my own experience tells me
that this is true. This spring a large male decided to be a big frog in a
small pond (mine!): he's done away with three of my goldfish as well as any
number of his own children: I actually watched him grab one right off a
lily pad! He isn't at all shy, but lets me get quite close to him. He used
to serenade us day and night, but I haven't heard him for about a week, and
thought he had either moved away or been taken away by a big bird. (I
watched one afternoon while an osprey swooped down and grabbed one of his
brothers.) He's still here though--I saw him yesterday. Maybe the bullfrog
mating season is over for the year.

The wonderful thing about a pond is that something interesting is always
happening there.

Harriett

I was surprised to learn recently that although bullfrogs are native here in
Florida, they are not indigenous to the western states, but have been
introduced there and are now regarded as a pest species because of their
depredations on smaller native frogs. I've heard that a bullfrog will eat
anything he can get into his large mouth, and my own experience tells me
that this is true. This spring a large male decided to be a big frog in a
small pond (mine!): he's done away with three of my goldfish as well as any
number of his own children: I actually watched him grab one right off a
lily pad! He isn't at all shy, but lets me get quite close to him. He used
to serenade us day and night, but I haven't heard him for about a week, and
thought he had either moved away or been taken away by a big bird. (I
watched one afternoon while an osprey swooped down and grabbed one of his
brothers.) He's still here though--I saw him yesterday. Maybe the bullfrog
mating season is over for the year.

The wonderful thing about a pond is that something interesting is always
happening there.

Harriett