Thanks guys/gals for your input, advise and suggestions. I will keep them in
mind. I know some of you might not agrees with what I did. I'm still very
new at this. For now I will stick with netting out the tadpoles and setting
up nets above my waterline to catch all the frogs and relocate them. Is it
ok to relocate them? I had the same concerns about accidentally introducing
those mollies where I dump them. I thought it would be safe because mollies
would easily become pray by our local snakeheads as I often seen them. So it
would never have a chance. After hearing the same concern, I won't do it
again. I'm wondering what the pond would look like with net covering it. I
live in the tropic. There's no winter here so I don't need to wait for next
year to do it.
Johnny


"Ka30P" wrote in message
...

Johnny - for next year. Securely net your pond well above the water line
and
leave it on 24/7.
(What you don't want is a bunch of frogs weighing down the net to the
waterline
as that is all they will need to lay eggs. Having a body of water outside
it is
impossible to keep everyone out but netting is one of the most effective
methods. It doesn't have to look strange. We have some ponds online that
are
netted all year round and look very nice. Usually formal ponds are the
easiest
to net.
You won't have thousands of frogs hopping around your yard. As with all
species
that lay thousand of eggs, very few of them reach adulthood. And depending
on
the species of frog or toad you may not see them much at all. At least not
in
the thousands ;-)
But I agree with BV, if you are netting up your fry with any egg masses or
groups of tadpoles you can't transfer that out to a nearby lake or pond as
you
will be transferring exotic species and they can wreck havoc on that
system. As
much as it pains me to say it you'd be better off dropping it in a bucket
and
letting it die. (While it is still legal.) Or set up a frog only pond.
Another thougt - when you have a population explosion in your pond you
need to
keep a sharp eye on your water quality. Sometimes people forget that
tadpoles
are just the same as fish when thinking bio load on the pond's filtering
system.


kathy :-)
algae primer
http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

Johnny wrote catch all the frogs and relocate them. Is it
ok to relocate them?

Yes, okay to relocate the frogs. About five miles from your pond is recommended
so they don't hop back! ;-)


kathy :-)
algae primer
http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

Johnny wrote catch all the frogs and relocate them. Is it
ok to relocate them?

Yes, okay to relocate the frogs. About five miles from your pond is recommended
so they don't hop back! ;-)


kathy :-)
algae primer
http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message ...
"Johnny" wrote in message
...
I woke up one merning and thousands of small tedpoles hangging on the
walls
of my pond. Is there any chemical that can kill these tedpoles without
harming the fish. What is the easiest way to get rid of them.

I may just be cranky this morning, but I find questions like this a bit...I
dunno...frustrating.

You think you're frustrated, how do you think his English teacher feels?
--
Crashj

"Crashj" wrote
[snip]
You think you're frustrated, how do you think his English
teacher feels?
--
Crashj

Not everyone who posts to newsgroups has
proficiency in English (for whatever reason). As
long as someone communicates, I really don't care
about mistakes in spelling or grammar. Besides,
I've seen considerably sloppier writing from
supposedly intelligent, educated, native English
speakers.

Gail
former college instructor (which should
explain that last sentence)

"Crashj" wrote
[snip]
You think you're frustrated, how do you think his English
teacher feels?
--
Crashj

Not everyone who posts to newsgroups has
proficiency in English (for whatever reason). As
long as someone communicates, I really don't care
about mistakes in spelling or grammar. Besides,
I've seen considerably sloppier writing from
supposedly intelligent, educated, native English
speakers.

Gail
former college instructor (which should
explain that last sentence)

And then there are the dear dyslexics
amongst us, I'm rather fond of them.

wife to one, mother to two ;-)

(btw - I know we have a couple parents of LD kids amongst us. Just found a
wonderful book
The Secret Life of the Dyslexic Child by
Robert Frank PH.D - what is so great about this book is that the author is
dyslexic himself and an educational psychologist. Read portions of it to my
captive dyslexic teenager yesterday while we were waiting for a routine doctor
appointment and he liked it.)

"Ka30P" wrote in message
...

And then there are the dear dyslexics
amongst us, I'm rather fond of them.

wife to one, mother to two ;-)

I had a student who was dyslexic and was
surprised when I did NOT equate dyslexia
with intelligence. Apparently he had had
some really bad experiences with other
profs (idiots - the real kind g). Minimal
additional effort on my part (print out a
separate copy of the exams in large bold
print) made all the difference for him.

(btw - I know we have a couple parents of LD kids amongst
us. Just found a
wonderful book
The Secret Life of the Dyslexic Child by
Robert Frank PH.D - what is so great about this book is
that the author is
dyslexic himself and an educational psychologist. Read
portions of it to my
captive dyslexic teenager yesterday while we were waiting
for a routine doctor
appointment and he liked it.)

I've heard dyslexia is more prevalent than
laypeople (including me) suspect. I know
in my own family (including DH's gang) there
are several instances of dyslexia.

Gail

"Ka30P" wrote in message
...

And then there are the dear dyslexics
amongst us, I'm rather fond of them.

wife to one, mother to two ;-)

I had a student who was dyslexic and was
surprised when I did NOT equate dyslexia
with intelligence. Apparently he had had
some really bad experiences with other
profs (idiots - the real kind g). Minimal
additional effort on my part (print out a
separate copy of the exams in large bold
print) made all the difference for him.

(btw - I know we have a couple parents of LD kids amongst
us. Just found a
wonderful book
The Secret Life of the Dyslexic Child by
Robert Frank PH.D - what is so great about this book is
that the author is
dyslexic himself and an educational psychologist. Read
portions of it to my
captive dyslexic teenager yesterday while we were waiting
for a routine doctor
appointment and he liked it.)

I've heard dyslexia is more prevalent than
laypeople (including me) suspect. I know
in my own family (including DH's gang) there
are several instances of dyslexia.

Gail

I didn't even have an english teacher.
:-o



"Crashj" wrote in message
m...
"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...
"Johnny" wrote in message
...
I woke up one merning and thousands of small tedpoles hangging on the
walls
of my pond. Is there any chemical that can kill these tedpoles
without
harming the fish. What is the easiest way to get rid of them.

I may just be cranky this morning, but I find questions like this a
bit...I
dunno...frustrating.

You think you're frustrated, how do you think his English teacher feels?
--
Crashj

Well...to answer your question instead of giving you a lecture...try a net.
If they are toad tadpoles, almost nothing will eat them, and their
population can explode like crazy if they have a new environment to expand
into.

A fine-mesh net such as an insect net works fine. We also have the problem
of tadpoles, thousands of them, Fowler's Toad tadpoles, which when toads
make an awful racket, not at all beautiful trilling like the American Toad
or even the Southern Toad. You can at least keep the numbers down by
netting them. Some will escape, to turn into toads and come back next
breeding season, but you can at least play "predator" and keep their numbers
down to a reasonable level by netting and removing them.

The point has been made, if you build a habitat, the wildlife will come -
but we also can recognize that for most of us the pond is a *managed*
habitat, after all many of us do all kinds of other gyrations (mental and
physical) to justify killing other unwanted organisms from single-celled on
up. So don't feel bad about trying to keep toad numbers down!

Happy Ponding,
Tim C.


"Johnny" wrote in message
...
I woke up one merning and thousands of small tedpoles hangging on the
walls
of my pond. Is there any chemical that can kill these tedpoles without
harming the fish. What is the easiest way to get rid of them.

TIA,
Johnny

Maybe in your world it doesn't happen - you haven't seen my yard full of
Fowler's Toads, LOL!

It DOES happen in nature, it's well documented and happens all the time,
populations explode, then predators of that first population also increase
dramatically, and on down/up the line - populations in nature are controlled
harshly, by predation or disease or starvation. You could look it up, there
are many documented population explosions that happen all the time in
various areas. Ever heard of locusts?

Happy Ponding,
Tim C.

"Stephen M. Henning" wrote in message
news
"SVTKate" wrote:

in MY case, because there are a million of them they are on the SECOND
hatching and even though my pond is about 100 yards from the back porch
the
racket the frogs make will drive you back into the house.

Don't worry about what will happen because it won't. Have you ever seen
any property inundated with frogs? It doesn't happen.

"Crashj" wrote in message
om...
"Gail Futoran" wrote in message
...
snip
I understand that very well, since the snip you deleted contained the
writer's ISP which was in Berlin. He still must have had a teacher. If
you see my followup to him you can see that I responded to his
defense. [or is that defence?] I have noticed in other groups that the
English of non-nativespeakers is often better than ours.
Have you ever heard of White's Law? It states:
"Any correction of grammer or speeling will itself contain such
errors."
snip

Grammer checks?
Complains about grammer checks?

If someone mentions hitler, this thread is almost certainly doomed.

BV.

"Benign Vanilla"
wrote
Grammer checks?
Complains about grammer checks?

If someone mentions hitler, this thread is almost
certainly doomed.

BV.

I'd be happy to see the thread doomed, as
well as certain other OT threads. In the
meantime, I'm out of here after exercising
my killfile finger. (Not on you, BV!)

Gail

"Benign Vanilla"
wrote
Grammer checks?
Complains about grammer checks?

If someone mentions hitler, this thread is almost
certainly doomed.

BV.

I'd be happy to see the thread doomed, as
well as certain other OT threads. In the
meantime, I'm out of here after exercising
my killfile finger. (Not on you, BV!)

Gail