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Old 23-08-2004, 05:37 AM
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How much difference will there be between 2 and 3 inch pipe? I'm trying
to do 3 inch flexible pvc pipe all through out. One problem I am for
seeing is that one of the filter's I'm planning to use only has 1 ½ inch
ports (aqua ultima II). Take a look at the bottom of the page of my
schematic so far. It just seems that 2 inch stuff is more available. Thanks

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Old 23-08-2004, 06:32 AM
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Grumpy wrote:

How much difference will there be between 2 and 3 inch pipe? I'm trying
to do 3 inch flexible pvc pipe all through out. One problem I am for
seeing is that one of the filter's I'm planning to use only has 1 ½ inch
ports (aqua ultima II). Take a look at the bottom of the page of my
schematic so far. It just seems that 2 inch stuff is more available. Thanks


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Old 23-08-2004, 02:45 PM
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"Grumpy" wrote in message
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How much difference will there be between 2 and 3 inch pipe? I'm trying
to do 3 inch flexible pvc pipe all through out. One problem I am for
seeing is that one of the filter's I'm planning to use only has 1 ½ inch
ports (aqua ultima II). Take a look at the bottom of the page of my
schematic so far. It just seems that 2 inch stuff is more available.

Thanks

When I was building my pond, someone told me to go big. I went 4''. I am
happy I did. Nothing ever gets clogged, and I am sized to handle anything I
can throw at it. My two cents, says go big.

BV.


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Old 23-08-2004, 06:39 PM
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I have a Sequence 7200 and Aqua Ultima filter. The original guy who built
this used 1.5 inch, but when you do the math you actually get nearly twice
the water with 2" pipe. Been told the intake is the most important place to
have the larger pipe. Sequence told me to use 3" if I could for even more
flow.

gary
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"Grumpy" wrote in message
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How much difference will there be between 2 and 3 inch pipe? I'm trying
to do 3 inch flexible pvc pipe all through out. One problem I am for
seeing is that one of the filter's I'm planning to use only has 1 ½ inch
ports (aqua ultima II). Take a look at the bottom of the page of my
schematic so far. It just seems that 2 inch stuff is more available.

Thanks

When I was building my pond, someone told me to go big. I went 4''. I am
happy I did. Nothing ever gets clogged, and I am sized to handle anything

I
can throw at it. My two cents, says go big.

BV.




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"gng" wrote in message
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I have a Sequence 7200 and Aqua Ultima filter. The original guy who built
this used 1.5 inch, but when you do the math you actually get nearly twice
the water with 2" pipe. Been told the intake is the most important place

to
have the larger pipe. Sequence told me to use 3" if I could for even more
flow.

snip

I would agree. Never restrict the input to your pump.

BV.




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The 3" to the input is no problem. The bottom drain and skimmer are
plumbed for 3". It's the output I have concern for. I want as much flow
as possible to the falls. Will I be able to do 3" from the Ultima? Thanks

Benign Vanilla wrote:

"gng" wrote in message
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I have a Sequence 7200 and Aqua Ultima filter. The original guy who built
this used 1.5 inch, but when you do the math you actually get nearly twice
the water with 2" pipe. Been told the intake is the most important place


to

have the larger pipe. Sequence told me to use 3" if I could for even more
flow.


snip

I would agree. Never restrict the input to your pump.

BV.



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Old 24-08-2004, 04:54 PM
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Grumpy wrote:
Benign Vanilla wrote:

"gng" wrote in message
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I have a Sequence 7200 and Aqua Ultima filter. The original guy who built
this used 1.5 inch, but when you do the math you actually get nearly twice
the water with 2" pipe. Been told the intake is the most important place


to

have the larger pipe. Sequence told me to use 3" if I could for even more
flow.


snip

I would agree. Never restrict the input to your pump.
BV.

The 3" to the input is no problem. The bottom drain and skimmer are
plumbed for 3". It's the output I have concern for. I want as much flow
as possible to the falls. Will I be able to do 3" from the Ultima? Thanks

The pump doesn't give a rip what your pipe diameter is, all it cares about is
the static and dynamic head. Bigger pipe gives you a smaller dynamic head for
a given flow rate. You *might* run into the situation where the system is
overdesigned (dynamic head is so low that static head is all the pump is pushing
against), but I doubt you'll run into that situation with only 3" pipe. If you
want to be sure, figure out the system's dynamic head from the tables referenced
in Richard's post, and check against the flow curves for your pump.

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I have a Sequence 7200 and Aqua Ultima filter. The original guy who built
this used 1.5 inch, but when you do the math you actually get nearly twice
the water with 2" pipe. Been told the intake is the most important place to
have the larger pipe. Sequence told me to use 3" if I could for even more
flow.

gary
"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
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"Grumpy" wrote in message
news:_veWc.72162$TI1.30000@attbi_s52...
How much difference will there be between 2 and 3 inch pipe? I'm trying
to do 3 inch flexible pvc pipe all through out. One problem I am for
seeing is that one of the filter's I'm planning to use only has 1 ½ inch
ports (aqua ultima II). Take a look at the bottom of the page of my
schematic so far. It just seems that 2 inch stuff is more available.

Thanks

When I was building my pond, someone told me to go big. I went 4''. I am
happy I did. Nothing ever gets clogged, and I am sized to handle anything

I
can throw at it. My two cents, says go big.

BV.




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Old 24-08-2004, 02:14 AM
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You can look at the pipe friction head loss chart shown on this site to see
what the differences in head for different pipe diameters and calculate the
anticipated flow rate. http://www.aquaart.com/pondFLC.html

RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/index.html

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How much difference will there be between 2 and 3 inch pipe? I'm trying
to do 3 inch flexible pvc pipe all through out. One problem I am for
seeing is that one of the filter's I'm planning to use only has 1 ½ inch
ports (aqua ultima II). Take a look at the bottom of the page of my
schematic so far. It just seems that 2 inch stuff is more available.

Thanks



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"Grumpy" wrote in message
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How much difference will there be between 2 and 3 inch pipe? I'm trying
to do 3 inch flexible pvc pipe all through out. One problem I am for
seeing is that one of the filter's I'm planning to use only has 1 ½ inch
ports (aqua ultima II). Take a look at the bottom of the page of my
schematic so far. It just seems that 2 inch stuff is more available.

Thanks

When I was building my pond, someone told me to go big. I went 4''. I am
happy I did. Nothing ever gets clogged, and I am sized to handle anything I
can throw at it. My two cents, says go big.

BV.




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